Field & Stream's "Best of the Best" winner for hunting knives is...

OldKnife007 said:
That article really did bring out the knife snobbery in this forum.
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I love the fact that some have gone so far as to decry the magazine itself.

At least F&S is showing a great degree of journalistic integrity by giving a positive review for a product and a company that does not advertise with the magazine. Blade and TK could learn a thing or 2 from F&S.

Not to hijack this thread, and yes, I know there is a thread in W&C about Blade Magazine, but CS has, for years, had an issue with Blade and TK not giving any ink to CS, when other, lesser knives get the rock star treatment.

F&S did itself a great service as a journalistic publication by not showing any favoritism toward an advertiser over any other company.

This problem with Blade goes back a long time. There is a "Riposte" article written by LT some 12 years ago, pointing out the issue with Blade. Things have not changed.http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/csstoreonline/article7.pdf

When the Tri-Ad lock was introduced at the SHOT show in 2008, and at the CS booth they hung 300 lbs off of the lock at 4.5"- which comes out to 1350 lbs of force- for 4 days. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyKysqWQzu0 Blade Mag was some 40 or 50 feet away from the booth, staff passed by everyday and saw the demonstration, and what did they write? NOTHING! Blade and TK have shown their true colors with regard to CS- and maybe others. Come on- a new lock that is setting new standards in the industry, and nothing? Does not sound like knife journalism to me.

Even when CS was regularly putting ads in Blade and TK, they could not get much ink. Some writers like Jerry Van Cook would mention CS products in reference to tactical articles, but almost never a feature article or a cover.

They just need to come out and say that they have no intention of covering CS, and that, no matter what they do, there will be no ink. They are just reviewing those that pay for the opportunity, even when their statements are completely opposite of that.

Thank you to F&S. Is the Pendleton Lite Hunter the "best" knife in CS line? Well, I tend to think that "best" is subjective in this regard. It certainly does what it is advertised to do, and is a real standout within that price range.

But, as stated above, it is a real shame that such a positive review for an inexpensive knife has unleashed the snobbery among the forum.
 
I have no doubt in my mind that there is terrific snobbery in the knife industry. But to vote a knife with a plastic handle as the 'best of the best' seems ludicrous to me. Were custom knives considered in this contest? Or was it just production?

Have these people ever heard of Bark River? I would imagine there are any number of Bark River knives that would out perform this one, and I'm no CS hater. I would have been more convinced if the award had gone to the Master Hunter, which several hunters I know rate very highly.
 
DngrRuss1 said:
I love the fact that some have gone so far as to decry the magazine itself.

At least F&S is showing a great degree of journalistic integrity by giving a positive review for a product and a company that does not advertise with the magazine. Blade and TK could learn a thing or 2 from F&S.

Not to hijack this thread, and yes, I know there is a thread in W&C about Blade Magazine, but CS has, for years, had an issue with Blade and TK not giving any ink to CS, when other, lesser knives get the rock star treatment.

F&S did itself a great service as a journalistic publication by not showing any favoritism toward an advertiser over any other company.

This problem with Blade goes back a long time. There is a "Riposte" article written by LT some 12 years ago, pointing out the issue with Blade. Things have not changed.http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/csstoreonline/article7.pdf

When the Tri-Ad lock was introduced at the SHOT show in 2008, and at the CS booth they hung 300 lbs off of the lock at 4.5"- which comes out to 1350 lbs of force- for 4 days. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyKysqWQzu0 Blade Mag was some 40 or 50 feet away from the booth, staff passed by everyday and saw the demonstration, and what did they write? NOTHING! Blade and TK have shown their true colors with regard to CS- and maybe others. Come on- a new lock that is setting new standards in the industry, and nothing? Does not sound like knife journalism to me.

Even when CS was regularly putting ads in Blade and TK, they could not get much ink. Some writers like Jerry Van Cook would mention CS products in reference to tactical articles, but almost never a feature article or a cover.

They just need to come out and say that they have no intention of covering CS, and that, no matter what they do, there will be no ink. They are just reviewing those that pay for the opportunity, even when their statements are completely opposite of that.

Thank you to F&S. Is the Pendleton Lite Hunter the "best" knife in CS line? Well, I tend to think that "best" is subjective in this regard. It certainly does what it is advertised to do, and is a real standout within that price range.

But, as stated above, it is a real shame that such a positive review for an inexpensive knife has unleashed the snobbery among the forum.
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Field and Steam is a good outdoor magazine, but its not really there forte to know the "best of the best" in guns or knives.

A gun or knife specific magazine will know more about what the "best of the best" is when it comes to guns and knives.

In turn, a knife or gun magazine won't know as much about hunting, fishing, camping etc... as field and Stream.


If you don't believe that just look at what knife they picked as the "best of the best" :p
 
I wonder if they'd picked a $200 BRKT fixed blade or a $150 Benchmade folder if there would still be the HUGE outcry on this thread about the article.

The facts are that I'd say that 95% of the people who own knives wouldn't dream of dropping more than $75 on any kind of knife. Ever. I know many people who hunt, fish, camp, hike, everything in the great outdoors, and have done so for their entire life. Not one, ONE, of them has any knife that cost over $50. None, zero, zilch. Most of them haven't spent more than $25 on a blade. Two of them are roofers by trade and they carry their $9 folding utility knife for everything. I ask them why. They say it's cheap, strong, and they don't have to mess with sharpening it. Just pop in a new blade and go.
Then they ask me why I carry a $50 pocketknife, it doesn't do anything their cheap one can't do to. And I have to sharpen it. Good point in their favor. I just happen to be a knife nut, that's why I carry it.

The crowd that reads F&S, for the most part, are among that group of people. Obviously, for their stated test criteria, the CS is the best compromise, as there is NO perfect knife for all people/uses.
 
cramsey3006 said:
I wonder if they'd picked a $200 BRKT fixed blade or a $150 Benchmade folder if there would still be the HUGE outcry on this thread about the article.
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I don't see an outcry, much less a HUGE one, just discussion.

But yeah, they would have been wrong there as well since those two are not the "best of the best" in a hunting knife.

"Best of the Best" is saying ALOT. I don't think a magazine should be throwing that term around lightly.


BTW- Thats not an outcry:p
And also, as an ex butcher and game processing buisness owner I can tell you many hunters don't really know alot about knives. There more into hunting, and once I let them try a really good knife they'll purchace one, and many can't even tell you what steel it is a month later. Many are way to much into hunting(and researching about hunting) to research knives.
But they do know a great one once they've had one in hand.
 
DngrRuss1 said:
I love the fact that some have gone so far as to decry the magazine itself.

At least F&S is showing a great degree of journalistic integrity by giving a positive review for a product and a company that does not advertise with the magazine. Blade and TK could learn a thing or 2 from F&S.

Not to hijack this thread, and yes, I know there is a thread in W&C about Blade Magazine, but CS has, for years, had an issue with Blade and TK not giving any ink to CS, when other, lesser knives get the rock star treatment.

F&S did itself a great service as a journalistic publication by not showing any favoritism toward an advertiser over any other company.

This problem with Blade goes back a long time. There is a "Riposte" article written by LT some 12 years ago, pointing out the issue with Blade. Things have not changed.http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/csstoreonline/article7.pdf

When the Tri-Ad lock was introduced at the SHOT show in 2008, and at the CS booth they hung 300 lbs off of the lock at 4.5"- which comes out to 1350 lbs of force- for 4 days. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyKysqWQzu0 Blade Mag was some 40 or 50 feet away from the booth, staff passed by everyday and saw the demonstration, and what did they write? NOTHING! Blade and TK have shown their true colors with regard to CS- and maybe others. Come on- a new lock that is setting new standards in the industry, and nothing? Does not sound like knife journalism to me.

Even when CS was regularly putting ads in Blade and TK, they could not get much ink. Some writers like Jerry Van Cook would mention CS products in reference to tactical articles, but almost never a feature article or a cover.

They just need to come out and say that they have no intention of covering CS, and that, no matter what they do, there will be no ink. They are just reviewing those that pay for the opportunity, even when their statements are completely opposite of that.

Thank you to F&S. Is the Pendleton Lite Hunter the "best" knife in CS line? Well, I tend to think that "best" is subjective in this regard. It certainly does what it is advertised to do, and is a real standout within that price range.

But, as stated above, it is a real shame that such a positive review for an inexpensive knife has unleashed the snobbery among the forum.
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There is a lot of politics in the knife industry to say the least. ;)

That's why people have to look past certain things and magazine articles etc and find the truth on their own.

IMO The Tri-Ad lock should have been given the the press it deserves.

A folder with a new lock holding 300 LBS 4.5" from the pivot for 4 days....

Yeah they should have been all over that IMO. :thumbup:

But like I said... Politics, and most of it's complete BS IMO.
 
"At least F&S is showing a great degree of journalistic integrity by giving a positive review for a product and a company that does not advertise with the magazine. Blade and TK could learn a thing or 2 from F&S.

Not to hijack this thread, and yes, I know there is a thread in W&C about Blade Magazine, but CS has, for years, had an issue with Blade and TK not giving any ink to CS, when other, lesser knives get the rock star treatment."

But what was on the cover of the Sept. 2010 Tactical Knives? Gee, it looks a lot like a Cold Steel folder.

I went out and bought a copy of F&S to see exactly what this was all about. You tend to get the feeling that very few people here have actually read the brief description of the knife, one of 7 recommended. Petzal seems most impressed by what a value for the money this $22.00 hunter is. What is wrong with that?
 
Sidehill Gouger said:
I went out and bought a copy of F&S to see exactly what this was all about. You tend to get the feeling that very few people here have actually read the brief description of the knife, one of 7 recommended. Petzal seems most impressed by what a value for the money this $22.00 hunter is. What is wrong with that?
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:confused: What where the other 6 knives? :confused:





Big Mike
 
I had to buy one of these just to see for myself, $18 here in Canada. In my opinion it's an overpriced, lower quality version of a Mora knife.
If the Swedes can make these and they retail for the same as the CS made in Taiwan, you can probably guess at what kind of mark up there is.
Field and Stream should have tried a few Mora's....they would have shit their pants :)
 
i have no war with cold steel but there's a huge difference between carbon 5 & that krupp alloy.i've used many cold steel c5s & aus8 thru the years & found them very acceptable
dennis
 
So F&S basically said that in all of knifedom, there is no better hunting knife than the CS chosen? It's not snobbery to have an issue with that, it's common sense. Only if price vs. performance ratio is the primary grading factor could that be the best of the best. If that's the case, so be it, but don't call it best of the best, call it best value or something.
 
for such a low price, the pendelton lite hunter is a fantastic knife, as are its counterparts; the roach belly, finn bear, and canadian belt knife. But as far as being the 'best of the best'....i think thats a little much.
 
I'm surprised that DiamondBlades new Alpha 1 folder didn't win best of the best. Oh well, maybe its because they have won it the last 3 years in a row. I will test one of the cold steels, what the hay, I'll pay $22 to tear one up.
 
I've got Moras and just got the Pendleton Lite. These are extremely functional knives, sharp right out of the box and do the job. I hear a lot of whining from those who spent 100's for knives they're afraid to use or lose in the field. A pretty display knife is useless. A great, cheap knife is a pleasure to have with no fear of putting it to it's intended use.
 
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