Finally had someone 'freak out' over a knife.

I prefer fixed blades all day long, but they just are not practical if you work in any type of professional corp environment. A folder of any kind in IMHO is only superior as the gentleman knife or the casual cutter for tape, rope, boxes like most of us use them for. I have experienced the same thing. I work for a Billion dollar global company you heard of=but since I work in systems, we wear jeans and whatever we want. Just as always, if it were Mon or Sat on the weekend- I always have a somewhat large folder on me. They don't check me, but I walk through several ultra secure zones w/ retinal scanners, guards and swipe cards. More for cutting tasks and the protection factor-I refuse to give up my right to carry a utility and defensive weapon though. Laws need not apply when concerning my safety. I actually had to start carrying my Case trapper knives in my pocket for my EDC folder M-F usages simply due to the looks I received when offering to help someone or if someone saw I was opening up a bunch of equipment with a big folder. I got the same reaction- "what the hell is that" "You going to war?" If you must know, the two most common knives I was using when I received these negative comments were a Spyderco Mannix II and although I love it- I got worse looks when I pulled out my Lion Steel SR1. The blade is just very wide, sharp and I guess intimidating. The Mannix got the same results which surprised me, so now I am regulated to non-clip hiding in my pocket-which I hate or using a Case trapper- which would probably afford me zero protection in the event I ever needed it for defensive reasons. Does wonders on boxes, but somewhat hard to deploy quickly if I ever needed. So rediculous how different the laws are from a state to state basis.
 
This is why a carry a Vic Classic on my keychain, in addition to my regular knife. Never gets looks, never scares people, and can handle just about everything the "big scary knives" can. I highly recommend them.
 
This is why I usually carry a Swiss army knife when not hunting or fishing or working in my own property. For some reason people are never threatened by it the same way they are by a single blade knife, even when the single blade is smaller than the one on my Victorinox.
 
newcoyote said:
Speaking of "Since reading comprehension doesn't seem to be your forte, I'll explain for you." I said skeptical. Not you're a liar. In fact I even said it sounds plausible. I just think the details have been embellished to make for a better story.Maybe to make a point. I have a hard time with the reaction to knife vs gun reaction. That is all. Knee jerk much?
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I think you overestimate my potential as a novelist. No, nothing was embellished.
 
ThePharce said:
My laughter came at the irony of the situation. I was carrying a pistol. She saw it. I know she saw it. She didn't react to the handgun but did at the sight of a 3 inch pocket knife.
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I wasn't there...

But can figure it's not out of the question for her to react more to the knife over the gun.

You were in public.
Guns make lots of noise.
Knives are quiet.
Alot of people envision being shot as being wounded or killed instantly.
Alot of people envision being stabbed as quite the opposite of being wounded or killed instantly...it's perceived as nearly torture.

So...there's that.
Just another couple of cents. Save em, they'll eventually make a buck.
 
ThePharce said:
I was in Target and noticed an employee struggling with the shrink wrap surrounding a pallet of shipment. I walked over and asked "May I cut that off for you?". She said yes and I pulled out my edc today; a Boker Action 2. Truth be told, it is partially serrated and a nasty looking blade, but shorter than , say, an Endura or Griptilian. She actually jumped back a bit and said , LOUDLY, "Why would you carry such a dangerous weapon?!"
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It never ceases to amaze me that people always ask that question when you're so obviously answering their question with your actions. People don't ask you why you carry a pen when you're writing something. People don't ask you why you carry a cell phone when you're making a call. But they ask you why you're carrying a knife when you're cutting something.

You should have asked here why she wasn't equipped with a cutting tool, since her job clearly requires it. Most people that I've seen who do stocking at places like Target have a utility knife on her belt.
 
Planterz said:
It never ceases to amaze me that people always ask that question when you're so obviously answering their question with your actions. People don't ask you why you carry a pen when you're writing something. People don't ask you why you carry a cell phone when you're making a call. But they ask you why you're carrying a knife when you're cutting something.

You should have asked here why she wasn't equipped with a cutting tool, since her job clearly requires it. Most people that I've seen who do stocking at places like Target have a utility knife on her belt.
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Heck even the cashiers and office people have box cutters at hand and or reg knives.
 
Should've asked her what she thought you were going to use when you offered to "cut" it for her. If she says box cutter, quiz her to see if she knows what was used to hijack the planes on 9/11.
 
ThePharce said:
I am normally very discreet about my carry. However, this is definitely NOT a 'blue' state. I don't see how what I did would be categorized as an 'escapade'. Once I asked her again if she would like my help, she calmed down and said yes......and politely thanked me as I left.


If we do not exercise our rights they will be taken away. However, if we exercise them, and keep it secret, they'll still be taken away.
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Amen.

Why I open carry.
 
Born to Kill said:
I wasn't there...

But can figure it's not out of the question for her to react more to the knife over the gun.

You were in public.
Guns make lots of noise.
Knives are quiet.
Alot of people envision being shot as being wounded or killed instantly.
Alot of people envision being stabbed as quite the opposite of being wounded or killed instantly...it's perceived as nearly torture.

So...there's that.
Just another couple of cents. Save em, they'll eventually make a buck.
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Yes, we can thank the movies for that lol. I do wonder why she didn't have a box cutter or as my employer refers to them, a 'safety knife'.
 
I might go out of my way to help a fellow patron, but I don't know if I'd interfere with an employee; I wouldn't feel overly compelled to help an employee stock the shelves or sweep the floor either. If they choose to flounder about like an animal and use their teeth or fingernails to open pallets, so be it, imo.

Even so, I think it was a kind gesture to offer a little help. Her reaction, while over-the-top, isn't really surprising in this day and age... :/

Edit: there was a time when I saw a young fella stocking shelves and a box on the top rack was teetering. Of course, I stepped in and caught it before it fell on him, but I think that's a little different scenario...
 
ThePharce said:
Wow, a complete psychological profile on me in one whole paragraph. You must be supremely talented. Since reading comprehension doesn't seem to be your forte, I'll explain for you.

My laughter came at the irony of the situation. I was carrying a pistol. She saw it. I know she saw it. She didn't react to the handgun but did at the sight of a 3 inch pocket knife. I in no way enjoy frightening people. I am actually one of the friendliest, most polite men you might ever meet (and, as my story began, I did offer my assistance to the woman in question). What makes you think that carrying a pocketknife and inadvertently scaring someone with it would make me feel 'superior' is beyond me.

I'll return you to your internet judgement rendering and personality profiling.
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You carrying a gun in addition to that scary blade and flashing it to that poor girl has changed the whole angle! I see now that it was very fanny indeed! Ha-ha-ha :D

So if she saw your gun too, how do you know that her fright and her exclamation about dangerous weapon were about your blade and not your gun?

That is precious! Did it ever occurred to you that she did not react to your pocket knife - that it was you who actually have freaked her out? With your gun, your knife and whatever else you happened to show her? ;)
 
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If we do not exercise our rights they will be taken away. However, if we exercise them, and keep it secret, they'll still be taken away.
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Excellent quote.
 
I would be very interested to see if her opinion changed after this encounter. Sounds to me like you did the right thing. There's nothing better that we as knife enthusiasts can do beyond helping to educate the general public to see knives as tools, not weapons. I might have asked her whether she was talking about the knife or the gun, to make it quite clear why I'm confused by her reaction. Interesting to see that happening in Memphis. With all of the folks on here who mistakenly equate sheeple with liberals, it's rather surprising to see a clear sheeple in an obviously conservative state.
 
crimsonfalcon07 said:
I would be very interested to see if her opinion changed after this encounter. Sounds to me like you did the right thing. There's nothing better that we as knife enthusiasts can do beyond helping to educate the general public to see knives as tools, not weapons. I might have asked her whether she was talking about the knife or the gun, to make it quite clear why I'm confused by her reaction. Interesting to see that happening in Memphis. With all of the folks on here who mistakenly equate sheeple with liberals, it's rather surprising to see a clear sheeple in an obviously conservative state.
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Memphis is a weird mix, lot's of extreme left in the same city with extreme right. Weird stuff.
 
That story aside, what actually upsets me most of all is that stupid logic - like this man looks dangerous, but everybody have right look dangerous, so he is all right... That is exactly sheeple thinking! And here we go - so many people in this forum so cool with guns and tactical knives for self-defence, and being so sheeple not to recognize some basic self-defence technique used by this girl!
1. She saw a man who looked dangerous - so she done the right thing, she assumed that he might be dangerous! Many people today fail to do this first critical step - they just do not see the danger. Sheeple!
2. She probably tried not to draw this possibly dangerous man's attention - pretended being busy or something... She did not come to that man and did not ask: why do you carry that gun, what kind of gun do you carry, is that a gun, what a big scary gun do you have! (that is called irony, many women do it on big boys with weapons and boys taking their words at face value - plenty of stories here in similar topics).... - like many people would do today. Sheeple!
3. When despite her effort that possibly dangerous man has pulled a knife out of pocket and moved towards her with some strange proposition... she did the right thing again - did everything possible to draw attention of the people around. Some will say that saying loudly "FIRE! FIRE!" would be much more effective, but certainly "DANGEROUS WEAPON" would be just the next best thing!
So that girl has got good survival instinct and her fair share of common sense. More than many sheeple here who would not recognize the danger when they see one.

Weapon never scares me. The people who have it - they may.

It all makes me quite sad!
 
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