Finally had someone 'freak out' over a knife.

seems like we all look dangerous now - the more innocent looking, the more likely you are to be searched at the airport, etc.
Security people at airports are probably get special training - being indoctrinated that not all the dangerous men look dangerous... And if you say you are not - they are actually trained not to believe you. Sometimes that can be very annoying and sort of unnatural that they suspect you - but I think that might be in the job description. So they have to pass an exam or something... ;)
 
You'd think that Swiss Army knives or other small multitools would scare fewer people, but I've found that it doesn't make a difference. I carried a little Swiss Army knife for a year in university because I know that university students here tend to be liberal, urban people with no experience with tools. It didn't matter that I needed two hands to open a blade, or that the blade didn't lock, or even that I never did anything scarier than sharpening a pencil. People still jumped, asked me why I had a knife, and told me I seemed really dangerous. You just can't do enough for some folks.
 
You'd think that Swiss Army knives or other small multitools would scare fewer people, but I've found that it doesn't make a difference. I carried a little Swiss Army knife for a year in university because I know that university students here tend to be liberal, urban people with no experience with tools. It didn't matter that I needed two hands to open a blade, or that the blade didn't lock, or even that I never did anything scarier than sharpening a pencil. People still jumped, asked me why I had a knife, and told me I seemed really dangerous. You just can't do enough for some folks.

I go to college too and I carry a Leatherman and a mini-grip. Some people freak out. Luckily, a lot of people go here for blue-collar jobs like automotive, welding, and the police academy, and they get it. The area where my college is in a small city in the middle of the woods, so there are a lot of people who hunt, too.
 
Yes, we can thank the movies for that lol. I do wonder why she didn't have a box cutter or as my employer refers to them, a 'safety knife'.

Wonder if they would get the point if we referred to them as "9/11 commemorative hijacking tools"?

1. She saw a man who looked dangerous - so she done the right thing, she assumed that he might be dangerous!

Yep, nothing screams DANGER like offering to help.
 
I carry a knife all the time (usually a para 2) and I've never had anybody do or say anything when I've used it in public. It's probably the case that people freak out when they see somebody with a knife who has already freaked them out for some other reason. In other words, they're put off by the person already and when they see the knife, it validates their preconceptions about them (in their mind) and they react in a shocked way.

It's the difference between "that guy with a knife" and "that weird guy with a knife." That guy with a knife usually doesn't freak people out. That weird guy with a knife always freaks people out. Of course, we're all weird in our own way so we're all bound to creep somebody out at sometime.
 
Yep, nothing screams DANGER like offering to help.

Well, you know, some people may ask you for a light - just to get to suitable distance and having you distracted.... Or I do not know, what they do now with so few people smoking these days... And read the OP story: a man with a gun on his side, standing and watching you while you are fiddling with some packaging... And then pulling out a knife, moving towards you to offer his help - well, yes, that happens there every bl**** day! Just so boring!
And we do not really know how he was dressed, if he shaved this week... But does that matter - he offered to help!
That is what makes me sad!
Oh yeah, I forgot, he has the right to carry a gun and a knife, to watch whoever he likes, to dress whatever way, not to shave ever and look any way he chooses - he is OK! So you actually have no right to suspect anything until the moment you are attacked - that is your legal obligation.
Get a big self-defence knife, get a gun, get whatever you may see in a HollyWood block buster - with your sense for danger that may not be enough to keep you out of trouble! :D

P.S. Gun is not a weapon, it is a tool - just heard Homer Simpson yesterday saying that to Marge. ;)
 
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For the record, I happened to be walking by when she was trying to open the package, I wasn't standing there watching her. Second, I didn't pull out a knife until she stated that she would appreciate my help.


Please feel free to alter the scenario to fit whatever agenda you might have, though.
 
For the record, I happened to be walking by when she was trying to open the package, I wasn't standing there watching her. Second, I didn't pull out a knife until she stated that she would appreciate my help.


Please feel free to alter the scenario to fit whatever agenda you might have, though.

ThePharce - sorry for making these references to your story, for what I am trying to bring across is not exactly about your case. As I have said - I just upset about that kind of topics here in general!
Here in this forum for some "mysterious" reason a guy with a knife is always a good one, doing everything possible, buy just misunderstood by that stupid people around... That is posteriors in my opinion - that is never that simple!
Like in this case with offering help: have you seen the story about some asian student in London, how he was wounded first by these "rioters" and then robbed by some fags while they were "helping" him?
Offering help is still great of course...
Some people never learn - that would be probably an appropriate thing to say...
 
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Poez, these stories may upset you, but your posts upset me. What I'm taking from your rantings is that no one should be social with other people and that we should all keep our heads down and eyes shut. We should all be wary of all people around us at all times. It sounds like the rantings of a conspiracy theorist. The guy tried to help a woman who was indeed needful of assistance considering she did not have the tool to complete her job. You make it sound as though he was giving her the thousand yard stare, while stroking his pistol handle with one hand, his knife handle with the other, all while wearing a proudly tattooed swastika on his head. I'm thinking you should read a bit more and post a bit less. When I say read, I mean really read, not glance over and then draw your own conclusions.
 
Poez, these stories may upset you, but your posts upset me. What I'm taking from your rantings is that no one should be social with other people and that we should all keep our heads down and eyes shut. We should all be wary of all people around us at all times. It sounds like the rantings of a conspiracy theorist. The guy tried to help a woman who was indeed needful of assistance considering she did not have the tool to complete her job. You make it sound as though he was giving her the thousand yard stare, while stroking his pistol handle with one hand, his knife handle with the other, all while wearing a proudly tattooed swastika on his head. I'm thinking you should read a bit more and post a bit less. When I say read, I mean really read, not glance over and then draw your own conclusions.

He freaked her out somehow. That is not a good thing, right? Could there be a valid reason for her freaking out? She might be a nice reasonable person who just misjudged the stranger - could she? That is probably what I am trying to say.
Or is she just a lowly sheeple - stupid kind of bum and knife hater you people are implying? Who is a conspiracy theorist after that?
But you are right about posting. And I do not see much point about reading neither... Thanks and sorry for trying to present alternative opinion!
 
I notice that around alot of girls/women mainly. Not meant in any sort of sexist way, rather; most never really see the need for a knife at all. And almost all of the women I've dated have been outdoorsy and pretty adventurous, and still never really understood the need/desire to carry a knife of any kind. Most have said that they'd be afraid that they would cut themselves using it....Same with older folks who have question such a big and fast opening knife (mines a Benchmade 710), as its pretty scary compared to the typical traditional Case or Camillus folders of yore....

I am pretty careful in the way of offering to help cut something for somebody. Keep in mind, most people; esp women/older folks generally don't think about someone pulling out an intimidating knife. They expect something alone the lines of a penknife or box cutter.
haha my grandpas the same way "why do you need something so big and so fast" :P
 
He freaked her out somehow. That is not a good thing, right? Could there be a valid reason for her freaking out? She might be a nice reasonable person who just misjudged the stranger - could she? That is probably what I am trying to say.
Or is she just a lowly sheeple - stupid kind of bum and knife hater you people are implying? Who is a conspiracy theorist after that?
But you are right about posting. And I do not see much point about reading neither... Thanks and sorry for trying to present alternative opinion!


She didn't misjudge me. I was facing the shipment, not her (she was to my side) when I pulled out my knife and she freaked out. I'm not going to do a complete work up on her mental state. I just know that we were a few aisles from a stack of Gerbers which were right about the same size as my Boker.
 
He freaked her out somehow. That is not a good thing, right? Could there be a valid reason for her freaking out? She might be a nice reasonable person who just misjudged the stranger - could she? That is probably what I am trying to say.
Or is she just a lowly sheeple - stupid kind of bum and knife hater you people are implying? Who is a conspiracy theorist after that?
But you are right about posting. And I do not see much point about reading neither... Thanks and sorry for trying to present alternative opinion!

Be realistic Poez. He didn't freak her out. She was fine with his offering of help and it wasn't until she saw "the big scary knife" that she kind of freaked. They were in a retail store where there are bright lights and plenty of people walking around. If she had been sitting alone on the side of a dark road with a flat tire and then this strager approaches her with a knife gleaming in his hand, I could understand where you're coming from. In this case your "alternative opinion" is just plain silly.

Now I'm not a fan of the term Sheeple because the way it used gives the notion that people who don't carry knives or firearms are less superior than people who do. I don't use the term and really try to dissuade others from using it as well. At the same time, let's not forget that the freaking out didn't happen until she saw the knife. That could have been for any number of reasons. Maybe she was cut badly when she was younger? Maybe she was mugged at knifepoint? Maybe her daddy had an unfortunate accident and lost a hand? It could be anything, but most likely she freaked due to her naivety about knives and their uses. She saw a blade that wasn't attached to a steak knife and she freaked because in her mind that blade can only be used to harm people. Even while he was helping her with that knife she still couldn't wrap her mind around the fact that it could be used as a tool and not just for inflicting harm.

If you don't see much of a point about reading these posts thoroughly then what are you doing on an internet forum? Reading and writing is the only way to communicate here.

I agree that in today's times people must be vigilant and aware of their surroundings more than ever, but I think you can let the guard down a bit when someone asks if you need help in a well lit, well populated, public place that happens to be your place of employment.

Now if he asked her if she needed help and then pulled out the pistol rather than the knife.... Well a freakout may indeed be the proper reaction.
 
My use of the term "Sheeple" has nothing to do with whether or not they carry a knife or gun. It's assigned to those who believe the rest of us are somehow shady or criminal for doing so.
 
My use of the term "Sheeple" has nothing to do with whether or not they carry a knife or gun. It's assigned to those who believe the rest of us are somehow shady or criminal for doing so.

Which can go to show that the term can be used in different context and doesn't necessarily have to carry a negative connotation. I'm still not a fan of the word, but I use other terminology because the word sheeple does carry a negative image most of the time and the word is really only used by people who carry knives or firearms. It's all about who you're using the word to describe and who is hearing the description.
 
A few weeks ago, we were over at the brother-in-law's place and he needed to open up a case of water. I handed him my knife, which everyone there knew I always carry, and he proceeds to slice open the plastic wrapping along with every water bottle on the right side of the container.

That's funny. I see boxes on supermarket shelves all the time which have fallen victim to that.

My use of the term "Sheeple" has nothing to do with whether or not they carry a knife or gun. It's assigned to those who believe the rest of us are somehow shady or criminal for doing so.

I agree. Sheeple are media-molded people; which makes the term armed sheeple an oxymoron.
 
Yeah, there's the dilemma: Should I help out this poor person struggling by pulling out my knife and run the risk of scaring the sh..t outta them OR should I politely ask if they would like to use my knife to cut whatever it is they're cutting and run the risk of them f...ing up my knife...:rolleyes:

Wait....third option: Politely mention how useful having a knife would be in said situation. :D

Giving yer knife to them is normally a bad idea. I am suspicious of people who don't carry knives. They generally don't know how to properly use one. If they did, they'd had one. Years ago, my chief asked "do you have a knife?" I proudly handed him the Benchmade auto I was carrying. He starts prying industrial sized staples out of a ticket book. That was 13 years ago and the last time I ever let a NKP use my knife.
 
Yeah, I don't offer my knife to others anymore either. I gave one to a friend as a gift a few years ago, and he cut himself on his first attempt at using it. Last year, I unwisely gave him my own to cut some tape, and he narrowly missed closing it on his own fingers before giving it back to me blade-first. Like zignal_zero says, if they knew how to handle a knife, they'd probably be carrying one. They always blame you after they hurt themselves with your knife, too.
 
Learn to mind your own business, it was just some shrink wrap not a life or death situation. Too many people here on
The forums seem to jump at any chance to use there knives.
 
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