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Okay guys. Bare with me. I thought i saw most of this info in a sticky here, but i can't seem to find what I am specifically looking for. I have been on this forum almost everyday, for about 4 years now. And, due to the fact that the amount of knowledge on this forum especially, is more than one can learn in a lifetime, I have barely even scratched the surface. And, so far, I have been learning all I can, and that long awaited window of time where I can actually afford a real good grinder is finally here.
I have read dozens of threads about putting together a grinder over the past few months, and now Im at the point where I just have too much info in my head, and no real way of deciphering it all. I am a bit overwhelmed, to tell you guys the truth, but I have been aspiring to be a great knifemaker for a long time now, and I can't tell you guys how much I look up to you and look TO you for almost all of what I have leaned and aquired thus far. And, to be even more honest, I just don't care to take any more time and try to learn every little thing like most of you guys do, about all the details about power supply, wiring, voltage, amps, and the more technical side of building my own grinder bearing by bearing. And, I am very limited in my tools as of now. But i plan for now, to use the grinder in a small shop in my back yard, and eventually get a small shop somewhere to work out of.
Just 2 weeks ago, I sorted out all of my tools(small selection though), and put all my things nice and organized in my truck. (I am a mechanic, so mostly auto tools, but tons of other crap I planned on using for my knife shop too.. Anyway, long story short, I organized all my stuff, and for some reason proudly set them up in my truck(old range rover) for work, as I do a lot of side jobs different places. Well, the other night some crack head broke into my truck and stole every last tool that I own, thus kind of ending my career for now as a backyard auto mechanic, while I go to school at night getting my degree in business.
So, this leads me to finally taking the plunge into my knife making career(hopefully), and starting from scratch to get my tools all set up again, for a different kind of work now. But, the reason I say this is that I don't have too many tools at the moment to build anything of my own, plus I am not a machinist at all, by any degree, so I wouldn't want to do anything to technical anyway. And, this whole time whenever I read about do it yourself grinders, I really don't even understand a lot of the things associated with building one.
So, I know that was alot about whats going on with me real fast. But, it leads me to my next thing. I don't want to just buy everything possible, and sell what i don't end up using. I want to buy only what i need, but with good quality, and I want to put something together that suits my needs, and style of knives I will be making.
For now, I will be concentrating on mostly fixed blade knives, with flat ground blades, but I would like to play around with some larger wheel hollow grinds too I think, but its not that important right now. I want to focus on combat fixed blades, small edc fixed blades, balisongs, choppers, takedown knives, and the occasional folder. Mostly hard use knives though, thats why i was thinking mostly flat ground, but you can do some cool stuff with hollow grinds. And, I want to make my purchase really count. I am hoping somebody can send me a few links on what I will need, but the pieces all need to be compatible, i don't want to worry about machining thing to make them work.
So, it comes down to this really. I love, eat, and breathe learning about knifemaking. I have a budget of $1100 right now(everything, even my food money but I don't care!!) that I can spend, and want to get as much as I can, to start my endeavor of making knives, but I want something that I can have for a long time. And, I figure I can start with a grinder, as its the most important thing really, and I am getting a huge old machinist drill press from a buddy for 85 bucks in a day or two, and it works just fine! So, I am excited about that, it will be my first real tool in my shop, and I know i will eventually aquire other small things over the near future as I need them. And, maybe you guys have an idea about turning it into a mill, as i saw at harbor frieght some tables for the drill press that work as a sliding table attachment, like the way a mill works, but im sure the HF ones are the cheapest, so just got me thinking i can use the press for a mill too! I hope!
But, i figure the real money needs to be spent on the grinder, first and foremost, and if i some how have money left over(in a perfect world), or for my next few purchases, you guys can tell me what else I will need, and the way you would go about it now, if you were to start over and buy everything from scratch.
I hope I don't sound like I am looking for a short cut here, but I really am just getting frustrated with all the grinder options out there, and in the past this has led me to hesitating until i no longer had the funds to even buy one. So, I really want to make the right decision here. And, for the life of me, when i go back to the stickies and older threads, and can't find the great ones that I have came across in the past, so its all a big blur in my very recent memory. And, many of you guys always say how you would go about buying your equipment if you could do it all over again, so I want to hear those thoughts.
I have already looked at many like Grinder In a Box, Polar Bear Forge, Grizzly, Wilton, Burr King and KMG(wow, how do any of you guys afford those?), Bader, Coote, etc. etc. But some of those are like 3 or 4 grand! What choice and options are good for me? I just don't even know where to start anymore. I have seen threads where guys put together lists of all different options, and pros/cons of each......The NWG seems pretty cool, as does the GIB, and doesn't seem TOO bad i guess, pricewise.
I know I want a 2" x 72" (i think?) based around knifemaking, as this will be used everyday to grind knives, and something I can get and put together easily if possible. But, when I was looking at all those threads in the past, I usually didn't have the funds to get one, so now that I do, I can't really remember everything I thought I wanted, plus I just keep reading about all sorts of different options out there, and its really hard to go through these threads, and pick out what you need without getting overwhelmed with knowledge. But, as I said, I have been learning everyday for a long time now, and its time i take the plunge into this dream of mine.
So, please, help me out, and please don't take me as too lazy to look up or search for this. I just want an up to date bunch of opinions from you guys who I read about everyday, and want to know how YOU feel, and what YOU would do, if you were in my place. I will definitely be adding to my tools in the near future, so I don't need to worry about my powerhammer just yet...
I am sorry this post was so long, but I am just so stressed out believe it or not about this, and have been for a while, that I just really hesitate to just buy something off of a half ass memory of a thread weeks or months back. Like i said, most of the grinder threads(but not knifemaking threads believe it or not, haha) are more confusing to me than any other threads. So, please forgive my ignorance. But, I have already worked with a buddy's HF 1 x 30 and I can manage some decent grinds, but I know I don't want to go the cheapest route. I want to buy smart, and for quality, to help with my work. I also do a bit of jewelery making on the side, and wouldn't mind using this for small projects like that every now and again also. But, this grinder will be my one and only do everything for knife making, using her everyday hopefully for years to come. So please help guide me in the right direction. I know it is a bit repetitive, but its late and I am tired, and just can't think of anything except building my knife shop(tools first though!), even when I out to dinner with my girl, or in school, etc. And, I want to make this purchase soon, before I second guess myself once again, and not get a chance to get what i need to get my foot in the door at least, so to speak. I am 28, and this is what I want to do for my life, my future, and for a living if my dreams come true. I am also thinking about going into metallurgy this next semester, but that is for another conversation.
I feel like a creep. I know most of you by name, and none of you know me I don't think really. But hopefully you soon will, as once i get this, i now can justify my being around here, and posting more. I hope that didn't sound wrong. Its just that it seems like taking the steps to get into this, has been harder, and more stressing for me than most, and perhaps it shouldn't have been. But, I have been trying to break into it for more than just a few years now. Since i was a kid, but my school never offered any metal classes, whatever. I want it now, and will do what i have to in order to get there, but i need to do it the right way. So, any links or ideas for a guy who can't build his own exactly from scratch, piece by piece, but wants something that i can have years from now, saying to others that i still love it, and use it every day!
I suppose i should have called this thread, "Help me build my knife shop, starting with the grinder"
ANY AND ALL OPINIONS ARE MORE THAT WELCOME.......I THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE WITH ME, AND FOR ANY ADVICE OR HELP you can lend me.
Even if its just some quick ideas, or a couple informational links of similar stories.....
Enough of my rambling now, i gotta get some sleep. But, I can't. I so damn excited that I finally have the extra funds to get a grinder! I've been waiting a long time for this......
Sincerely,
David Weglarz
I have read dozens of threads about putting together a grinder over the past few months, and now Im at the point where I just have too much info in my head, and no real way of deciphering it all. I am a bit overwhelmed, to tell you guys the truth, but I have been aspiring to be a great knifemaker for a long time now, and I can't tell you guys how much I look up to you and look TO you for almost all of what I have leaned and aquired thus far. And, to be even more honest, I just don't care to take any more time and try to learn every little thing like most of you guys do, about all the details about power supply, wiring, voltage, amps, and the more technical side of building my own grinder bearing by bearing. And, I am very limited in my tools as of now. But i plan for now, to use the grinder in a small shop in my back yard, and eventually get a small shop somewhere to work out of.
Just 2 weeks ago, I sorted out all of my tools(small selection though), and put all my things nice and organized in my truck. (I am a mechanic, so mostly auto tools, but tons of other crap I planned on using for my knife shop too.. Anyway, long story short, I organized all my stuff, and for some reason proudly set them up in my truck(old range rover) for work, as I do a lot of side jobs different places. Well, the other night some crack head broke into my truck and stole every last tool that I own, thus kind of ending my career for now as a backyard auto mechanic, while I go to school at night getting my degree in business.
So, this leads me to finally taking the plunge into my knife making career(hopefully), and starting from scratch to get my tools all set up again, for a different kind of work now. But, the reason I say this is that I don't have too many tools at the moment to build anything of my own, plus I am not a machinist at all, by any degree, so I wouldn't want to do anything to technical anyway. And, this whole time whenever I read about do it yourself grinders, I really don't even understand a lot of the things associated with building one.
So, I know that was alot about whats going on with me real fast. But, it leads me to my next thing. I don't want to just buy everything possible, and sell what i don't end up using. I want to buy only what i need, but with good quality, and I want to put something together that suits my needs, and style of knives I will be making.
For now, I will be concentrating on mostly fixed blade knives, with flat ground blades, but I would like to play around with some larger wheel hollow grinds too I think, but its not that important right now. I want to focus on combat fixed blades, small edc fixed blades, balisongs, choppers, takedown knives, and the occasional folder. Mostly hard use knives though, thats why i was thinking mostly flat ground, but you can do some cool stuff with hollow grinds. And, I want to make my purchase really count. I am hoping somebody can send me a few links on what I will need, but the pieces all need to be compatible, i don't want to worry about machining thing to make them work.
So, it comes down to this really. I love, eat, and breathe learning about knifemaking. I have a budget of $1100 right now(everything, even my food money but I don't care!!) that I can spend, and want to get as much as I can, to start my endeavor of making knives, but I want something that I can have for a long time. And, I figure I can start with a grinder, as its the most important thing really, and I am getting a huge old machinist drill press from a buddy for 85 bucks in a day or two, and it works just fine! So, I am excited about that, it will be my first real tool in my shop, and I know i will eventually aquire other small things over the near future as I need them. And, maybe you guys have an idea about turning it into a mill, as i saw at harbor frieght some tables for the drill press that work as a sliding table attachment, like the way a mill works, but im sure the HF ones are the cheapest, so just got me thinking i can use the press for a mill too! I hope!
But, i figure the real money needs to be spent on the grinder, first and foremost, and if i some how have money left over(in a perfect world), or for my next few purchases, you guys can tell me what else I will need, and the way you would go about it now, if you were to start over and buy everything from scratch.
I hope I don't sound like I am looking for a short cut here, but I really am just getting frustrated with all the grinder options out there, and in the past this has led me to hesitating until i no longer had the funds to even buy one. So, I really want to make the right decision here. And, for the life of me, when i go back to the stickies and older threads, and can't find the great ones that I have came across in the past, so its all a big blur in my very recent memory. And, many of you guys always say how you would go about buying your equipment if you could do it all over again, so I want to hear those thoughts.
I have already looked at many like Grinder In a Box, Polar Bear Forge, Grizzly, Wilton, Burr King and KMG(wow, how do any of you guys afford those?), Bader, Coote, etc. etc. But some of those are like 3 or 4 grand! What choice and options are good for me? I just don't even know where to start anymore. I have seen threads where guys put together lists of all different options, and pros/cons of each......The NWG seems pretty cool, as does the GIB, and doesn't seem TOO bad i guess, pricewise.
I know I want a 2" x 72" (i think?) based around knifemaking, as this will be used everyday to grind knives, and something I can get and put together easily if possible. But, when I was looking at all those threads in the past, I usually didn't have the funds to get one, so now that I do, I can't really remember everything I thought I wanted, plus I just keep reading about all sorts of different options out there, and its really hard to go through these threads, and pick out what you need without getting overwhelmed with knowledge. But, as I said, I have been learning everyday for a long time now, and its time i take the plunge into this dream of mine.
So, please, help me out, and please don't take me as too lazy to look up or search for this. I just want an up to date bunch of opinions from you guys who I read about everyday, and want to know how YOU feel, and what YOU would do, if you were in my place. I will definitely be adding to my tools in the near future, so I don't need to worry about my powerhammer just yet...
I am sorry this post was so long, but I am just so stressed out believe it or not about this, and have been for a while, that I just really hesitate to just buy something off of a half ass memory of a thread weeks or months back. Like i said, most of the grinder threads(but not knifemaking threads believe it or not, haha) are more confusing to me than any other threads. So, please forgive my ignorance. But, I have already worked with a buddy's HF 1 x 30 and I can manage some decent grinds, but I know I don't want to go the cheapest route. I want to buy smart, and for quality, to help with my work. I also do a bit of jewelery making on the side, and wouldn't mind using this for small projects like that every now and again also. But, this grinder will be my one and only do everything for knife making, using her everyday hopefully for years to come. So please help guide me in the right direction. I know it is a bit repetitive, but its late and I am tired, and just can't think of anything except building my knife shop(tools first though!), even when I out to dinner with my girl, or in school, etc. And, I want to make this purchase soon, before I second guess myself once again, and not get a chance to get what i need to get my foot in the door at least, so to speak. I am 28, and this is what I want to do for my life, my future, and for a living if my dreams come true. I am also thinking about going into metallurgy this next semester, but that is for another conversation.
I feel like a creep. I know most of you by name, and none of you know me I don't think really. But hopefully you soon will, as once i get this, i now can justify my being around here, and posting more. I hope that didn't sound wrong. Its just that it seems like taking the steps to get into this, has been harder, and more stressing for me than most, and perhaps it shouldn't have been. But, I have been trying to break into it for more than just a few years now. Since i was a kid, but my school never offered any metal classes, whatever. I want it now, and will do what i have to in order to get there, but i need to do it the right way. So, any links or ideas for a guy who can't build his own exactly from scratch, piece by piece, but wants something that i can have years from now, saying to others that i still love it, and use it every day!
I suppose i should have called this thread, "Help me build my knife shop, starting with the grinder"
ANY AND ALL OPINIONS ARE MORE THAT WELCOME.......I THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE WITH ME, AND FOR ANY ADVICE OR HELP you can lend me.
Even if its just some quick ideas, or a couple informational links of similar stories.....
Enough of my rambling now, i gotta get some sleep. But, I can't. I so damn excited that I finally have the extra funds to get a grinder! I've been waiting a long time for this......
Sincerely,
David Weglarz
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