*Finished!* A Story and a Question (Somewhat off-topic)

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Hey everyone, I just wanted to share a very scatterbrained and small story of an Opinel and a very special person. The story is long and not very beautiful (in fact it is somewhat mundane, but it means alot to me.) I also have a question for you all so, if you do no want to read the story, just scroll past it.


So yesterday, I went up to my grandparents house for brunch to tell them about my backpacking trip that I just came back from. We sat around the table as I showed them interesting artifacts and stones that I had brought back and told them of my journey. It was wonderful being able to see them all again; I cannot remember the last time I really sat down with them, alongside with my uncle, and really talked to them.

After our meal, I asked if I could mess about outside as to take advantage of the last hour of sunlight. I used my time to collect my first ever pieces of fatwood and reorient myself back home again. I remember feeling somewhat humbled at how much the forest provides if you pay attention and how little it takes one to truly live happily. I got to thinking about how much knowledge (or what I would like to think is knowledge :D) I would want to pass down the family line if I ever had a child. If anything, the trip I have just come back from and being back in the forests again, has made me become exited for my future; if I play my cards right, I could spend my life out here.

When the set had set, I returned with a large pile of resinous fatwood. As I entered the doorway, my grandfather gave me a funny look.
"What's that?"
"This is some fatwood I found outside while I was out. Here, have a look."

He looked at my find with a small smile and we both left the mudroom for the dining table. Strewn about across the table and benches, boxes, envelopes, files, books and photos occupied every inch of usable space. As a whole, we looked through mountains of old photos and certificates, my mother's and uncle's old school work...we swam through an ocean of memories, nostalgia and history. I cannot explain what it was that I felt, but my heart was warmed by the entire experience; A few members of the family even began to tear up as we laughed, smiled and reminisced.

My grandfather then took me upstairs to show me the music that he had put on a flash drive for me to listen to (I had asked him about much of his music so, for Christmas, he compiled a copious collection of music for me from his collection). We watched videos of Burningman (Since he goes about every year), exchanged interesting music and videos that we knew the other would enjoy and eventually fell into a conversation about new projects that I was dreaming up. I had asked him if he had any scrap pieces of wood to spare from his latest project since I was planning (and still am) about making 'poor man's sharpening stones' with sandpaper. With that, we headed outside to the second garage; his workshop.

There, we combed through a decent pile, picked out the best scraps, and proceeded to his bench. Since I know that he carries and SAK with him everywhere he goes, I asked if he had any blades that needed to be touched up. He gave me a contemplative stare and began to point his pinger at his large toolbox.

"I have some cheap knives in there if you wanna look."

I combed through and drawers and, to my surprise, I found two well-loved electricians knives in a drawer. I admired them greatly and placed them back with care. I was somewhat disappointed that I was unable to read the tang stamp on one of them, but I was happy enough that they had been loved in VERY caring hands. (I wish I could have gotten pics for you guys, I will try again some other time). In the drawer below, I found a very abused Opinel No.8.

"Do you want me to fix this old girl up? It looks like she has been though hell and back."

"Psshhh, oh no..." he said half smiling, "That is a dangerous knife, it is designed horribly. It is dull and I have cut myself with that damn thing so many times...well, that's when you get cut anyway, when it is dull. You can have it if you want it. I don't" he said with a chuckle.

I looked at him with a smile, "Are you sure? I really think that all she needs is a little spa treatment and she will be fine."

"No, no, take it."

After we finished up, we returned inside where everyone was gathered around the television with desert. All I could do was sit at the counter fondling this Opinel that I had just received. Under the circumstances that I had gotten this knife in, it was very casual and unimportant to say the least. To me, however, I wanted to bust into tears. Heck, I am kinda fighting them now just thinking about it...I kept thinking about how much we had done together. Very often in my short life of 18 years, my grandfather and I would do projects together. From working on my Pinewood Derby car in Cub Scouts to my latest knife-related projects, we have been side by side. I feel like I have been given a piece of history passed down from one generation to the next; kinda like that feeling I was thinking about when I was collecting fatwood. I now have a project to do by myself; to fix up this old Opinel. I will be working on this myself, but he will still be with me in a way as I restore this old girl.

Thanks for reading my little tale behind the Opinel, I just thought it would be nice to share. I love you Papa!




Now to pics and some questions



Also, before I forget, I realize that this should probably go into the maintenance forum and/or others, but I wanted to share with you guys my little story, pics of my new project and hear your recommendations from THIS forum in particular since this is 'traditional specific'.

Here is my 'new' Opinel

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As you can hopefully see, the edge is heavily damaged and needs some work...
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Some blood on the handle and inside the knife :eek:
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In my quest to fix up and personalize this gift, I have a few questions as to how I can accomplish some of the things that I want to do. As you can see, I already have the ring off already. I have also gotten most of the rust off of the blade and ring, but there is still some in the inner workings of the pivot pin area that must be taken care of. I would like to remove the pin, clean up the blade, clean the blood on the inside of the handle, reshape and waterproof the handle and work on the blade. At this point, I am stuck though; I do not know the best way to remove the pin without destroying it so I can continue.

With this I have some questions...
-How do I remove the pivot pin without destroying it?
-If I have to replace it, what should I use as a new pivot pin?
-How should I clean the blood from the inside without removing too much material?
-What would be best to use for waterproofing the handle after sanding?

Is there anything else you can think of that I could do with this old girl? I will keep everyone updated on my progress in restoring and modifying this gem; I cannot wait to see what becomes of it. Anything you guys want to say, add, suggest, criticize, etc. is more than welcome. In fact, I encourage it.



Thank you so much for everything guys, I truly appreciate you time!
Make sure everyone you care about knows that you love 'em. Life is too short...

Take care everyone,

-Deadfall
 
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If you're going to reshape the handle you might want to file a notch in it like I've done here to aid opening. Nice story. Thanks. :thumbup:

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If you're going to reshape the handle you might want to file a notch in it like I've done here to aid opening. Nice story. Thanks. :thumbup:

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I definitely want to take a whack at an 'easy open' notch. Tell me, how comfortable is the notch when you are using the blade?
 
i need to post a pic (actually i need to take a pic or three)
i tried to carve an EO notch on my Opinel

ummm, i went way to far...less is more in these cases :D
 
i need to post a pic (actually i need to take a pic or three)
i tried to carve an EO notch on my Opinel

ummm, i went way to far...less is more in these cases :D

Advice taken :D

I really want to do an EO notch, but this pic I found may be my inspiration as to how I want this old girl to live the rest of her life.

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What would you think if I sanded down the handle like this? Would you think it would be enough for me to open it similar to how you are able with a EO notch?

(Pic not mine of course. All credit goes to the OP; and the OP deserves a lot of credit IMO.)
 
no ideas for the pivot pin
but i DID get off my rear end and take some pics

now, i am not done, just getting started really, i wanna reshape the handle some more
and i got some stain for the wood when i am..i'll have to take some before and after pics i think

anyways, here is an example of "going too far" when carving EO notches :D
the thought was, "big enough to use while wearing gloves" :rolleyes: ah well, practice makes perfect



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Thank you for the pics sir! I bet that when you begin to reshape the handle, you can smooth out those lines and come out with a wonderful shape. A blessing in disguise perhaps? :D
 
perhaps, perhaps

i am a little unsure about how to shape the handle the way i want
i actually am kinda digging the handle shape you posted above, might have to think about this a little more :p
 
For the pivot pin, I found this post in an old thread here ---->: http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/380971-taking-apart-an-Opinel

I've done it several times now.

With a pair of needle-nose pliers, grasp the locking ring where the raised ridge meets the open slot, and pull it out away from the handle, and also toward the end. It should pop up over the pivot pin, and off the end.

The pivot pin can be difficult. It's basically a rivet, with a large round head on one end, and it's pounded at the the other to keep it in place. If there's enough of the end showing, you can try filing off the excess to make the next step easier.

To remove the pin, use a hammer and punch. (I use an old drill bit shank that happens to be the right size.) Drift the pin out through the handle and blade tang, and then remove the inner (non-rotating) ring around the end of the handle. The blade will just fall out of the handle slot.

That's it. Not many parts on an Opinel. ;)

Reassemble in reverse order. Don't worry about hammering the end of the pivot pin/rivet; the outer locking ring will keep it from going anywhere. Getting the ring back on is harder than getting it off; I use the pliers as mentioned above, and also a large flat screwdriver to slightly open the ring up at the slot a bit. Pull the edge of th ering away from the handle to get it over the round end of the pivot pin, and it should just pop into place.

If the locking ring is too loose, remove it again, and squeeze it more tightly closed with a large pair of pliers, then carefully reinstall it, taking care to not open it up any more than necessary.

That should do it!

I'm still searching for another thread I seem to remember, in which another member recommended essentially the same procedure (using a drift punch).
 
Thank you very much for this! I was actually looking for one around the garage but to no avail...

I was trying to comb the forums for posts that would help and I actually found the one you have quoted; I just am lacking either the proper technique, tools or a combination of both to get this dang thing out :p
 
I truly appreciate this, I really need to get this done so you can stop wasting your sweet time on me!!
 
I truly appreciate this, I really need to get this done so you can stop wasting your sweet time on me!!

I'm always interested in the Opinel-modding topics anyway, and staying engaged in the conversation is a great way to find some new inspiration and ideas for the 'next thing' I'd like to try with mine. Every time I go digging through old threads looking for the answer to a particular question, I always find something I didn't see before, and therefore learn something new. So it's all good. :thumbup:

Here's another quote (bold added) from the same expert as before (member 'Gryffin'), in this thread:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/425239-Heavy-Opinel-Use?p=4020986#post4020986

Opinels are pretty easy to disassemble.

The only thing holding the locking ring in place is the head of the pivot pin, inside the ring. If you hold the knife pivot-up/butt-end-down, looking at the slot where the blade goes, it's on the right-hand end of the pin. Take a pair of narrow pliers (a Leatherman or similar work well) and grab the locking ring under the raised slot on the right side, pull away from the handle, and up towards the pivot, the ring will pop right off.

Next, drive out the pivot pin. I use a narrow nail set, then a sawed-off nail; an old broken drill bit makes a good tool, too. The pivot pin is slightly flared on one end, but is soft enough that it's easy to drive it through the inner collar. It'll hang up badly at the blade tang though; a couple more firm whacks will get it through the blade, and after that, the other side of the inner collar if you want.

A few things I've found interesting:

  • The blades are stamped out of sheet, so one side of the tang is convex, with a bit of raised metal around the edge. Sanding the tang smooth makes the blade swing more smoothly. If yours is rusty, sanding away the rust will help a lot!

  • The inner collar is what controls the tension on the blade tang. If your blade is really stiff to open, don't sand the slot bigger, just open up the collar a bit. It's a lot easier to reverse if you go to far! The inner collar is not very springy, unlike the locking collar, you can just wedge it open a bit with the jaws of the pliers you used to remove the locking collar. Reassemble the inner collar and blade, without the pivot pin, to check the fit. If you go too far, just remove the inner ring again and clamp it tighter using a vice or large pliers; check the fit again, repeat as necessary.

  • Once you've driven out the pivot pin once, it's a lot easer to do subsequently. So feel free to play around with it! For instance, with all the metal removed, it's a lot easier to refinish the handle. Speaking of which...

  • I've refinished several Opinels; I like boiled linseed oil for a finish, since it repels water well but doens't leave a slick surface like polyurethane. I just sand off the old finish (and tweak the shape to my liking!), remove all the metal parts, and soak the stripped handle in a small bag with the linseed oil. After a few days in the bag, take out the handle, wipe off the excess linseed oil, hand-buff with a clean cloth, and reassemble. Couldn't be easier.
 
I need to see if my step-father's old vise is still attached to the work bench (which to my luck is buried under a bunch of crap, lol). I have been using a smaller vise, but it is not bolted down - My 1st mistake...I shall keep looking for a punch or setter; I could have sworn we had a set here...

Well, anyway...while I figure out my pivot pin predicament, what would you opinion be on using a dremel to modify the tip to a drop point? As you can (hopefully) see by my pics, I have a lot of metal to remove anyway to fix the edge.
 
I've redone a good amount of Opinels, but I've never removed the pivot pin. I just tape off the blade, and sand around the pivot, and fold over the sandpaper and sand the blade slot a bit wider. On the outside, I don't sand very much, just enough to smooth out the angles on the weird shaped butt. Be very very careful not to sand off the shelf that the blade locking ring rides on. For refinish, I use a Minwax stain of choice, with a coat or two of Helmsman spar urathane after the stain sets for a number of days to dry out. For the stain, I use a disposable foam paint brush and lay it on thick, let sit for a few moments, then wipe off with soft clean rag.

You can finish with linseed oil, it just takes longer. For a linseed finish, I sand, finish with 0000 steel wool, and keep on slathering linseed oil on it for several days. Then buff well with a soft rag and let it weep for a few days. Once a month for a year, then once a year I'll rub some more linseed on.

That Opinel has seen some heavy abuse, but it's salvageable for a usable knife. I'd go for a heavy spear point on that blade.

Opinels are great knives, and will give many years of good service.

Carl.
 
I need to see if my step-father's old vise is still attached to the work bench (which to my luck is buried under a bunch of crap, lol). I have been using a smaller vise, but it is not bolted down - My 1st mistake...I shall keep looking for a punch or setter; I could have sworn we had a set here...

Well, anyway...while I figure out my pivot pin predicament, what would you opinion be on using a dremel to modify the tip to a drop point? As you can (hopefully) see by my pics, I have a lot of metal to remove anyway to fix the edge.

I'd have some reservations about using a Dremel to alter the blade shape, only because it would need a very steady hand, and might overheat the steel. I think if I were doing it, I'd do the rough shaping with wet/dry sandpaper against hard backing, like glass. It would take longer (then again, maybe not, if compared to the dremel), but would give much better control of everything. With the edge so heavily damaged near the tip, I might just file that damaged steel away, either with the paper or with a file. If using the paper directly against the edge, you might 'blunt' the edge first, so the paper doesn't get cut too easily. Silicon carbide wet/dry paper takes metal off fast, and at very coarse grit (220 or lower), should work pretty quick for the rough shaping, especially on this relatively small, thin blade of good ol' carbon steel.
 
I've redone a good amount of Opinels, but I've never removed the pivot pin. I just tape off the blade, and sand around the pivot, and fold over the sandpaper and sand the blade slot a bit wider. On the outside, I don't sand very much, just enough to smooth out the angles on the weird shaped butt. Be very very careful not to sand off the shelf that the blade locking ring rides on. For refinish, I use a Minwax stain of choice, with a coat or two of Helmsman spar urathane after the stain sets for a number of days to dry out. For the stain, I use a disposable foam paint brush and lay it on thick, let sit for a few moments, then wipe off with soft clean rag.

You can finish with linseed oil, it just takes longer. For a linseed finish, I sand, finish with 0000 steel wool, and keep on slathering linseed oil on it for several days. Then buff well with a soft rag and let it weep for a few days. Once a month for a year, then once a year I'll rub some more linseed on.

That Opinel has seen some heavy abuse, but it's salvageable for a usable knife. I'd go for a heavy spear point on that blade.

Opinels are great knives, and will give many years of good service.

Carl.

I will take those words to heart, I have just been concerned with rust on the part of the tang that is contacting the wood itself and possibly forcing a patina around the tang to minimize this rusting issue in the future. I think that I will leave the pivot alone for a while and just get to work on sanding.

Have you ever done anything to waterproof your Opinels before?
 
I'd have some reservations about using a Dremel to alter the blade shape, only because it would need a very steady hand, and might overheat the steel. I think if I were doing it, I'd do the rough shaping with wet/dry sandpaper against hard backing, like glass. It would take longer (then again, maybe not, if compared to the dremel), but would give much better control of everything. With the edge so heavily damaged near the tip, I might just file that damaged steel away, either with the paper or with a file. If using the paper directly against the edge, you might 'blunt' the edge first, so the paper doesn't get cut too easily. Silicon carbide wet/dry paper takes metal off fast, and at very coarse grit (220 or lower), should work pretty quick for the rough shaping, especially on this relatively small, thin blade of good ol' carbon steel.

Sounds good to me, I think that I am just getting too impatient!
 
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