For Sale Individual or For Sale Dealer

I started to follow and deal in this forum about 6 months ago. At that time the guy made the statement that he was selling off his collection of some one thousand knives. Since then he has sold or trade over five hundred pieces and last week he mentioned he had one thousand knives in his collection to sell or trade. Maybe the guys who are covering his ass can do the math!!! Won't add up to anything but "big time dealer to me" Now give me your best shot because I don' owe anybody or or give a rat's ass for cheaters or those who support them. Mike Mason
 
and welcome to the PUNKS club!!!!:D :D You see I am a PUNK too. I also do not buy for one minute the crap about REQUIRING a TAX ID to qualify as a DEALER. your want to DO IT RIGHT, well that is one of the things RIGHT you do. BUT, if you play the "buzz word" game, then WHY do ANYTHING right?
KNIFEMAN, I salute you. There are alot of us PUNKS here on BF. WE do NOT buy for one minute the "legalize" chucked around this forum that is used to define a DEALER. Do DEALERS love knives? YES sir, they sure do. Do DEALERS know knives? THEY BETTER know them as intimately as they KNOW THEMSELVES. How else would a DEALER be able to "wheel and DEAL"?
If you cannot TALK THE TALK, you cannot WALK THE WALK. The standard CRAP is that JAXURMAN has the KNIVES we ALL want. ANF you ALL KNOW that he DOES. AND he SELLS, BUYS, TRADES daily. What does this make him, a PLUMBER?
Keep playing the Buzz word game SPARK. This DEBATE will continue long after I am gone. BUT I INTEND to live UNTIL I AM 80. That means 34 more YEARS of WOLFMANN601 on BF.;) ;)
SO, unless you plan to "TAN and BAN" me, why The PHUCK don't YOU just pay his DEALER'S FEE and end this silly crap. The one thing I have found as constant as Carson makes great knives, is that "from the beginning" of BF, the debate of whether JAXURMAN is a DEALER.
So, TELL me spark, WHAT is a DEALER who has NOT taken the appropriate steps, gotten a TAX ID, and paid for DEALER Status????? Maybe just a MEGA walking E-bay???...Ira the PUNK:p
 
Ira, if I may offer you an unsolicited word of advice, chill out. Spark has made his decision. If you have evidence to the contrary (like a maker tells you he provides jaxurman with knives at dealer pricing and jaxurman is selling them on BF and making a profit), then I suggest you let Spark know. Otherwise, these comments serve no purpose. I don't like jaxurman's participation solely in the exchange forums, or his self-promotion via GB&U, but that's besides the point, and doesn't make him a dealer. So he's an active collector and trader? So what. I'd like to be able to wheel and deal in thousand dollar knives. Won't happen for a while, if ever.

Regarding your dealings with jaxurman, I have myself bought and sold knives at prices that maybe weren't the best. I have sold knives I liked very much to pay for incoming knives that I foolishly bought before realizing the nature of my finances. But I have never, since February of 1999, emailed someone and then backed out. Think twice, email once. I agree that it was wrong of jaxurman to pressure you to send him the money, and I don't blame you for being upset about that. I would be too, and I would have told him I wasn't interested after a tactic like that, but the other times...you told him you were interested and then you got a better offer? I understand your desire to do well in knife-trading/buying/collecting, but please don't forget that there are more important things in life than getting the best deal. I'm sure as a former police officer you are fully aware of that, and I don't mean to be out of line in offering this advice.

Don't challenge Spark. Leave jaxurman alone. Yeah, jaxurman called you a small-time punk. If you backed out of deals twice, and let him pressure you out of one other, you asked for it. Don't do business with him in the future if you don't like his attitude. Neither has done anything to deserve your wrath.

Again, please don't take this the wrong way, Ira. I have great respect for your service to the citizenry of New England, and should we ever meet, I'd be honored to buy you a beer. I'm just trying to tell you how I see things in this situation.
 
Can we please give him some other title besides dealer. That is a title that I am proud of. I would
rather not be associated with Mr Jaxurman. Maybe he can be called “King of the Serious
Players”? thanx goomer
 
Ira, you do realize that Jack has only been a member of Bladeforums since May of 2001. It only seems like this has been going on since the beginning of Bladeforums.

I really don't think that Spark is planning on paying for Jaxurman to become a dealer nor should he. If Jack is a dealer then we have to depend on him having the ethics to own up to it. From what I can see, it looks like things are going to stay the way they are. That is fine by me, but like Spark posted, maybe jack could stop asking for the good reports on GB&U so that these posts won't take up half of this forum.
 
I also want to comment on what Burke pointed out. I have sold a few knives on Bladeforums and every time I accepted a deal I was offered more for these knives at a time after I had accepted. I would never have thought of cancelling the deal so that I could take the better offer. I just don't think that that is the right way to do things.
 
Sir, you are 100% correct. The first two "deals" with Jack were absolutely poor "knife-dealing" on MY PART. While I did back out of the two deals, I did so VERY quickly, within the course of reading the several E-mails that awaited me.
Irrespective of WHY, my "change of mind" to accept a better "deal" in both cases was WAY OUT OF LINE. In Both cases I stood tall, acknowledged my very poor tactics and my indecisiveness and APOLOGIZED as the GUILTY Party. Jack was VERY KIND to me and took the time to educate me in the Fine art of "wheeling and DEALING". Jack and I were "cool", and if you look back, I have DEFENDED Jack on several occassions.
This last knife DEAL went WAY over the line. I do not simply call my financial planner and ask to send me some cash from one of my investments to purchase a knife. I will add, simply for the sake of clarification that MONEY has NOT been the issue. As a result of my misfortune during the police call that changed my life, two very large for-profit entities were found negligent for the proximate cause of my injuries and I settled a major league civil suit. As I posted just recently in General Discussion, I began to wonder out loud if knives were things of beauty to love, cherish, use and collect, or should one just dump 25 grand and buy some of the BIG-Names in the knife industry to have available as a "commodity".
During THAT thread I discovered how deeply my love for knives has become, even though I have only been at this for approx. 16 Months.
I made a decision to use ONLY the money that I worked for and saved for specifically for knives as my source of revenue from which to BUY. I also took out what knives I do have in my collection and labeled them as "trading stock"
I, like many of the formites check the "knife exchange" daily. This is a MUST for me. I spend hours each day in the many different forums as an active participant, and have many times exposed parts of me to all on BF (most whom I have never met)things in my LIFE that are very personal and very much describes who IRA IS.
During one vist I saw a Duncan Whiplash for sale. I did not have the money at that time, but even if I did, Jack beat me to it. "If ya snooze, ya lose", and I snoozed. Within a week or so, I E-mailed Jack asking about the availability of THIS KNIFE. Jack QUICKLY answered back that he would indeed sell it for $400.00 and added that since I had backed out of the two prior deals, in order to save "face" and restore JACK'S FAITH IN ME, I HAD TO BUY THIS KNIFE. Let there be NO mistake. I WANTED this knife badly and at $400.00 it IS STILL a GREAT DEAL. I made it perfectly clear that I DID NOT have the $400 currently, but as soon as I did, it was JACK'S.
I then WATCHED my EVERY knife purchase. I posted a Brad Duncan in MOP that I owned for sale in order to get the $400.00 needed for Jack. I have shipped that Duncan to another formite and I am awaiting his return to his Home State after being called away on family matters to evaluate the Duncan and if he likes it, consumate the trade by shipping me two Microtechs which I had already sold in order to pay Jack in full.
Jack kept up the pressure, demanding I send $300.00 NOW and then $100.00 within 30 days or ELSE he would post in GB&U that I was a punk. Just as Jack has been victim of a family tragedy, the gentleman currently in possession of my Duncan did too, and this caused the two formites to go elsewhere for their Microtechs. furthermore, My 20 year old Son tried to drive his (MY)1998 Jeep Wrangler Saharra on it's roof on the Interstate off-ramp after being a typical foolish 20 year old. This set me back FIVE GRAND. I made Jack aware of this, and further added that I absolutely wanted that DUNCAN, as soon as I had the payment in full, it was headed his way, but I remain $100 short and I am busting Butt to find the cash. Jack remained UNRELENTLESS. I began to feel like I was being pressured by a "Car Salesman". I also began to feel like Jack was acting like a KNIFE DEALER, and not a KNIFE "wheeler-Dealer".
The E-mails continued with jack DEMANDING I throw in one of my production knives with the $300 to "save my name and allow Jack to have restored faith in me, and allow Jack to continue to [DEAL] with and TO me".
I AGAIN explained that WHEN I had the full $400 in cash, I would send it. If this was not acceptable, he could certainly post it for sale in the "knife exchange" and if someone bought it, OH WELL. NOPE, Jack E-mailed again explaining what a "nice guy" he is for allowing me to BUY one of his knives, and to send the $300 and the final $100 in 30 days OR LESS. I again E-mailed back and explained that as soon as I had the full $400.00, I would BUY that Duncan. I REALLY WANTED IT BADLY!! I could have written the final $100 off a money market account BUT that would change my entire style of Knife collecting. No, knives have become far to precious to me to throw "easy" money at them. Only thru money earned the hard way, allowed me to really appreciate my very humble knife collection. I made it perfectly clear that I was NOT buying any knives UNTIL I had the final $100, and then and ONLY then would I send it to JAXURMAN.
NOPE, another E-mail asking why, and again questioning my integrity, my honor and my good name, the three MOST important things that define Ira.
That was it!!! I banged out an abestos glove E-mail to Jack. It said "Take that Whiplash and stick it up your A$$. Jack acted like a PURE hig-pressure DEALER and finally crossed the line.
So here we are. I have checked the archives of BF. I CANNOT find ONE POST whre Jack offers one bit on info on ANY knife or any Knife-related topic. ALL 400 plus posts are DIRECTLY associated with the buying, selling or trading of knives. Read his style of selling. Just like a good salesman. Start at a HIGH number, and every hour or so, if no interest is shown, drop the price add a sales propaganda tidbit and watch the knife for interest. None, do it again.
There is so MUCH more here on BF for a TRUE knife lover. Jack is a TRUE Knife lover, this remains my belief. BUT his style of "Wheeling and Dealing", his continued rubbing crap in the faces of us "little-players" and his CONSTANT Ego stroking comments about his Vast collection, walk-in safe, 100 Grand in AVAILABLE knives, and his strong-arm selling tactics make Jack a what?
So, I am done whinning. I WRONGED Jack twice. I stand GUILTY as Charged. I accept my punishment with dignity and MOVE forward. BUT in this FINAL "knife exchange" Jack acted like a DEALER, threatened to destroy my name on BF if I did NOT buy this Duncan, and then applied "down and dirty" car salesman like tactics. For this, SOMEONE also needs to stand TALL and admit WRONG and ACCEPT their poison and then MOVE FORWARD, and that someone is NOT named IRA..........To all who have found this offensive, I apologize from the bottom of my heart. This has been another very painful EDUCATION in the Knife-world. Soon, I will no longer be a NEWBIE, but my love for knives grows STRONGER every day, and my desire to participate in EVERY part of BF remains very STRONG.........Ira
And Burke, It was my SUPREME honor and Priviledge to be able to SERVE my COUNTRY, MY STATE, and the Great Citizens of the USA:D :D
 
ira , you really should tell the truth i never e mailed you daily pressuring you if you remember i told you this was the third strike with me you backed out of two other deals admit it your word aint worth the kleenex i blow my nose with i will tell you this leave my father out of this never have i used my fathers passing as a way to get out of a commitment or deal the way you have we all have problems you are correct as i recall i told you i was giving you several options to save face as i see it the people on bf will see you for what you are a punk as you have labeled yourself and not a man of your word again by your own admission you backed out of 3 deals with me not cool go waste someone elses time i have no time for your sorry 5cent self and let me clarify this it aint because we are not doing big money deals heck ive done plenty of trades and deals under 100.00 as i said before you really are not of any importance to me in fact i look at you like dog crap on my shoe just a mere inconvienience at least the bf members i have dealt with on 75.00 spydies kept their word unlike you you told me to stick the duncan up my ass sorry i traded it to someone more deserving than you ;) i got tired of your constant bullshitting me and pest like emails excuses are like *******s everyone has one enough was enough i made the dcision to get the deal done or to finish dealing with you if you remember i offered to mail you the knife first with you paying me the balance in 30 days then after you cried about it i said when you can is that not fair??? i hate liars and bullshit artist i gave you the chance to prove you were neither i was right you failed miserably both accounts so go and find someone else to run your drag on!!!!! hey goomer thanx for the compliment king of all big players !!! shucks here i was happy with the title "the big mack daddy from cincinatti !!!!:p :p happy holidays jaxurman
 
Jack, This is OVER. I sure WILL NOT post the E-mails between YOU and I. I did SAVE EVERY ONE.
They serve no purpose. This issue SERVES NO PURPOSE. I plan on being a MEMBER of BF, a very ACTIVE ONE.
The issue is NOT, IRA is a PUNK. WE have ESTABLISHED that. I have posted MANY times that I WRONGED YOU. For this, YOU EDUCATED ME and we AGREED TO MOVE FORWARD. I thank you for teaching me how to play with the BIG-GUNS.......................
This FINAL "DEAL" is/WAS exactly that. A "DEAL" You were the "DEALER", I the buyer. Nothing MORE and NOTHING less.
AND JACK....YOU changed MY mind for ME, I still seek out a whiplash....
SEE ya on BF Jack. Maybe in some different FORUMS?????
Ira the GUILTY PUNK;) ;) :p :( :o ;)
 
how can you sit there and say this final deal between us ??? we never did a deal period !!!! why ??? because you did not keep your word 3x !!!! you are right i wasted valuable time educatng ira the punk only to get kicked in the teeth !!!!! trust me you will win no friends over here in the sales forums especially if you do people like you have done me -WRONG !!!perhaps you will develop a cult following in whine and chheese telling the story about your shootout i am not impressed one bit perhaps you should have the dr give you a pill for your memory it stinks to me i cannot believe that you feel what you did was ok and its biz as usual remember i am not a dealer and we have done no deals and you are not a player by any strech of the imagination remember what dirty harry said " a man has got to know his limitations " you should restrict yourself from even going to the custom forum stay with factory knives for now thats the league you are in nothing wrong with them i collect them too so there in my mind you welshed on 3 deals most importantly this last one perhaps i will make it my civic duty to post under each and everything you post that the buyer or seller should be aware you "change your mind frequently " all you had to do was aplogize and step up to your 400.00commitment instead you proved you are dishonest and your word aint worth **** !!!! jack
 
Originally posted by jaxurman
!!!!! trust me you will win no friends over here in the sales forums especially if you do people like you have done me -WRONG !!!
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Jack, you showed him the right way.....;)

David
 
go and read les robertsons post about me and this silly dealer thing READ SIFU 1 POST !!!!! it explains about me and who i really am although i have not written much in ant other forums , the guys who have spoken to me by phone will vouch for my helping novice collectors scholloing them on the things i know about the custom knife world in fact maybe les robertson might pipe in here i just spoke to him the other day 2.50 hours my dime the time before that 3.50 hours again my dime jeez do you think les would talk to me that long about nothing???? i feel that i learn things from him and he learns a bit from me as well besides he is a heck of a lot busier than i am raising 2 kids running a biz and married too !!!! so go read DEALERS PART 2 MAYBE YOU WILL HAVE A DIFFERENT LOOK AS TO WHO I AM ;) THANX JAXURMAN
 
it will clarify much of the nonsense in this thread :confused:both spark and les clarify what i have maintained all along i aint a dealer ;) so for all you non believers read it and weep !!! hopefully now this subject and nonsense of me being a dealer can be put to rest the supreme court has ruled !!! there will be no further appeals !!!! happy holidays to all thank you kjs aka spark and les roberttson for believing in me and to the forumites who stood by me on this issue to the non believers :p sorry !!!!! thanx jaxurman
 
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