For some reason, Emerson has never appealed to me.

I have a number of things that make me not a fan of Emerson. The first thing is the double bevel grind with the single bevel cutting edge. Also I realize the whole spiel about using Phillips head screws so they're easy to field strip, but I've NEVER had to strip my knife for cleaning in the field--it could always wait until I got home or to where my backpack was where I had my Torx driver set. Our fathers, grandfathers, etc. all did fine without knives they could take apart--I'd rather at least have hardware on my knife that was less prone toward stripping. Furthermore, the pivots have been gritty and stiff on every Emerson I've handled, and if you loosened the pivot enough so it opened smoothly there was tons of blade play. The thumb discs also don't have an anti-rotation flat on them, so you can unscrew them with finger pressure.

All on a knife that costs $200...just doesn't rub me the right way. I know lots of folks love them, but they're not for me. :o
 
Well... I've been to folder insanityville and back. I always end up with an Emerson clipped to my pocket. Here's my scoop; I don't care about the steel or the blade finish or any of that. My Emerson knife feels so good in my hand, better than any other folder, and all my knife has to do is it's job and it has NEVER let me down. I vote Emerson.
 
Well... I've been to folder insanityville and back. I always end up with an Emerson clipped to my pocket. Here's my scoop; I don't care about the steel or the blade finish or any of that. My Emerson knife feels so good in my hand, better than any other folder, and all my knife has to do is it's job and it has NEVER let me down. I vote Emerson.

+1 :cool:

They do work, better than any other knife I've owned, and I've had/have more than a few from other companies.
 
emerson has a formula, and its worked for him for a long time. in fact not too long ago he had to move into a larger building to keep up with production demand. in this day and age of downsizing, outsourcing, not many knife companies can do that.

his custom pieces sell like water in the sahara, he gets exactly what he wants for them, and i cant imagine he ever leaves a show with any unsold. on the secondary market, people have no problem paying two, three times the show price. you thought the secondary market price was bad for an xm18? please.

if its not broke, why fix it? i like emerson, and while id certainly change things if i could, about what is offered, etc, i would, but that goes for every knife company i buy from.

if you dont like emerson, dont buy emerson, for emerson is doing just fine without you.
 
I didn't like Emerson knives at first. Everything about the specs seemed wrong to me. That was until I held one and felt it's design. The knife just works so natural in the hand. It's lightweight for their blade size and fits flat enough in the pocket. The G10 handle is grippy enough but not so to tear up your pocket. The chisel grind is by far the easiest grind to keep razor sharp. I have my CQC-11 ridiculous sharp and it stays that way. The wave feature is what puts the Emerson in it's own league. There isn't a faster way to deploy a knife.(period)! From sweat pants to shorts, the wave opens so fast you will frighten people around you. I have owned a few different Emerson knives but if you want to feel the pinnacle of Emerson perfection, look at the the CQC-11. it is Emerson perfection from the finger choil to the jimping. Oh, and you will never ever loose money on a Emerson knife. They are the gold standard of resale value.

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I don't know what to say, I've had a folding Kbit, a fixed blade Kbit and a La Griffe. Than, in November, last year, I ve bought a CQC 11, in December a Super 7, now I'm waiting a Super 8, so... take care, it's highly addictive :D
 
Well... My Emerson knife feels so good in my hand, better than any other folder, and all my knife has to do is it's job and it has NEVER let me down. I vote Emerson.

Same reason here. The ergos are unbeatable and they are quality materials and build for what you pay I think. Emersons were made for battle, they were designed for all out conflict thus the philips head and flat head screws. You may have never had to field strip your knife but there are people out there who don't have the ability to get to their homes or their cars for a torx driver. these are the people who will use these features.
 
As I read this thread, I removed a CQC-15 from my pocket and looked it over. I've been carrying Emerson knives for some time. I own a lot of them. None are custom models, though a few have re-ground blades. This particular CQC-15 does. I own a number of other knives, too; fixed blades and folders. I like Spydercos. I've had benchmade knives for some time. I'm a big fan of the Spyderco Military and Paramilitary, because they're very well designed and put together.

My favorite folder continues to be the Commander. I own much more nicely fit knives. My Chris Reeve Sebenza is a very nice knife, albeit much more expensive. While I like the Sebenza, I don't carry it much, and it's not because I don't like it. I absolutely love it, and it's an outstanding, high-quality pocket knife.

What I do carry routinely, and have carried them all over the world, is an Emerson.

As I look this one over, I see a poor fit between the scale and the liner in several places. I see grinder marks. I see various imperfections that I could dwell on. Some may find these objectionable, and perhaps as a result they won't buy the knife. I hadn't seen this particular knife first-hand until I ordered one. I didn't need to, because I already owned enough Emersons that I was very confident in what I'd receive, and I wasn't disappointed. I haven't been yet.

My guess is that Emerson sells enough knives he's not concerned about those who won't buy is products because of imperfect fit and finish. I'm not concerned about others who do or don't use his products, either. I'll certainly explain why I use them, but I couldn't care less if anyone else picks one up, carries one, or likes one. It doesn't influence my own experiences with the knives, or my trust in them.

I don't know if they're the number one hard use knives in the world, and I don't really care. When I reach for a pocket knife, it's an Emerson, and I've quite literally trusted my life to them in places where at times the Emerson was the only weapon I was able to carry due to law or circumstance. Recently I've been to Iraq, Afghanistan, Egypt, Bahrain, UAE, Pakistan, and a number of other locations. I can't carry a firearm in many locations I go, nor can I travel with one in a lot of places. I can travel with a pocket knife, however, and it's always an Emerson.

It's not a rifle. It's not a handgun. It's not a grenade launcher. It's a pocket knife. That's all. It's not even a fixed blade knife. If it's used defensively (or offensively), then it's a last-ditch effort because I might have no other choice, and I doubt very many would plan otherwise. Never the less, particularly in places where one's choices are a pocket knife or a pen or nothing, then it's the knife, and for that one ought to be grateful.

I don't know if they're the number one knife. I very much doubt I'll ever try them all and evaluate them hard enough to find out. Some of my knives have had hard lives and have proven themselves enough to me that they're good enough. Emerson knives have their lore and tales of navy seals and nasa astronauts, and strong adherents that include collectors and the "usual suspects." I don't care about any of that.

I do care about having a product I can trust, and thus far, my experiences with the bare-bones, stock Emerson knives have been just that. When I buy another knife (and I will), I do it based on my own recommendation; I buy it because I trusted the others.

Something has been said about the chisel grinds, and the variations thereof. I don't like them either. They work, however, and they work extremely well. To me, the Emerson isn't so much the knife I'm going to use to trim my toe nails (the Paramilitary works well for that), but it may be the knife that I'm going to use to open someone's abdominal cavity. It hasn't come up, I hope it doesn't. It's not a surgeons scalpel, and it's not a museum piece. It's not something I show my friends, and it's not something I use to carve chess pieces. It's a knife that's meant to slice quickly and to do it effectively. If that's the necessity (and it's always a real possibility in some of the places I go, or have been), I'm not concerned about niceties, nor about fit, nor about finish. I'm concerned about the knife being there, opening, staying open, and finishing the job as quickly as humanly possible in order to create an opening for me to go some place else. That's it.

This CQC-15 is ergonomically sound. It's had a reground blade because I like the regrind; it's beveled and reprofiled (Tom Krein), and I like the finished product. I also carry the knives stock because they work really, really well.

I do like to be able to do more with the knives than plan on a one-time use in a fight. Suppose the knife never gets used in a fight? That's always the plan. Never use it in a fight? Could it be of use for something else? It can, and very often is. I use my knife a lot. I've got some in the safe that have never been used. Perhaps they never will. I like the idea of having extras, of not having to wait for a replacement if one is lost. So far, only one has been lost, and it was very well worn, and disappeared in Mosul, in Iraq. It was a mini-commander, and I miss it.

Someone mentioned the thumb disc coming free. I haven't seen any of mine loosen or come free, nor have I seen the screws break. It was a concern when I first got an Emerson, but I've yet to see it become a problem. I was concerned about the thumb disc catching on something or impeding the knife's function. My concern was unfounded.

The wave feature is a very handy feature. It's a resting place for the thumb, a help in opening, and a potential catch for a hazard that might slide down the back of the blade.

Don't like the knives? Don't buy one or own one. That's simple enough. No skin off my nose, and I don't think Emerson will lose sleep over it either. Enough folks out there that understand the knives and appreciate them will be regular consumers for a long time to come. Emerson just opened a larger production facility to handle the increased demand. If you don't want one, you shouldn't get one. It's a safe bet to say, however, that more than enough consumers will be there to take up the slack.
 
I own the super 7,14,11,kerambit,and the persian.I think the folding kerambit
is one of the best on the market.I general they are overpriced.I think
the whole lineup should be dropped by about $60.I am getting turned
of from linerlocks ,and thats all they offer.For a "close quarter combat "knife
they should rethink the lock,or at least take away the cutout like
the spyderco bradley.
 
emerson has a formula, and its worked for him for a long time. in fact not too long ago he had to move into a larger building to keep up with production demand. in this day and age of downsizing, outsourcing, not many knife companies can do that.

his custom pieces sell like water in the sahara, he gets exactly what he wants for them, and i cant imagine he ever leaves a show with any unsold. on the secondary market, people have no problem paying two, three times the show price. you thought the secondary market price was bad for an xm18? please.

if its not broke, why fix it? i like emerson, and while id certainly change things if i could, about what is offered, etc, i would, but that goes for every knife company i buy from.

if you dont like emerson, dont buy emerson, for emerson is doing just fine without you.

So what? I mean thats all great and all that EKI is doing so great but honestly it has nothing to do with the topic of liking or disliking the brand. Emersons knives sell well because first and foremost Ernie is a great salesman. Oh sure his designs are solid and people love them and they want them but can't afford the customs. So, they settle for the compromise and buy the productions and I think that generally speaking most people know at least unconsciously that the Emerson production knives fall short of what they could be for the money, especially when you compare them apples to apples to other brands they compete with many times for far less money. Not only is the fit and finish sub par with EKI compared to even less expensive competitor brands but new in the box action, and condition are usually not on par either and that doesn't matter if you compare an EKI to Spyderco, Benchmade, Kershaw or ZT. Look at the same price point in a ZT knife and compare. And take the blinders off to do it.

I mean really the ZT is what you expect to get for that kind of money. Quite simply put this is why so many of the Emersons are modified and upgraded to bring them to where the owners know they should be once people buy one. (My opinion of course but ask yourself why EKI are the number one pimped folders on the market.). The fact is the Emerson production folders offer a good base to build up from for those wanting the custom but not being able to afford it. For everyone else the chisel grind, the ego all over the blade in the huge logo as well as the mixed feelings of thin liners on the older ones, the mix of stainless on one side and titanium on the other on some recent ones, as well as the chisel edges even on the V grind models just have little use to a lot of folks that don't necessarily want a fighting knife. I certaily don't want to have to explain in court why I'm carrying a knife that is sold as a close quarters combat model to some aggressive district attorney do you? Thats another thing that turns people off some and in this political environment with crack downs on weapons and gravity knives we could discuss another issue of why Emerson and other brands built this way are deemed illegal in states like New York and even cities like Chicago, Memphis and others. You are going to be hard pressed to argue you are not carrying a weapon when its called a CQC knife and thats the truth in any court in the land. Quite honestly the detents don't work for crap other than to make the knife open smoothly so you'll probably end up being charged with carrying a gravity knife in some areas also.

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If you don't like the brand why bother posting and trolling in the brand sections? Seems pretty childish to me.

With that said, I have an La Griffe and a Commander. I love them, great knives and I don't see any fit and finish issues.

I own a few Spydies, a few Esee fixed blades, Strider fixed blade and some others. I EDC my Commader as it just feels great and does whatever I need it to do.

If you have never held them I recommend them greatly. Buy one on the secondary market and you will see the quality.
 
Some of them are pretty nice.
Some come with alot of sanding required.
I think they should be a bit cheaper.
But the handle ergonomics are awesome.:)
 
Just got my first Emerson (a CQC-8) and while my Spydies are more refined and better finished the liner lock on the Emerson is way stouter. About twice the thickness of my millie and made of titanium. I only have one other 154CM bladed knife (a Benchmade) and it's edge holding is a step below VG10 for sure. The Emerson seems to be much better but I need to use it longer to get a feel for how much better. Heat treat makes a huge difference in my experience. I'll be buying more Spydies than Emerson's in the future for sure because of the price point and number of models offered but I have no buyers remorse with my Emerson.
 
... I don't care about the steel or the blade finish or any of that. My Emerson knife feels so good in my hand, better than any other folder, and all my knife has to do is it's job and it has NEVER let me down. I vote Emerson.

+1

Here is one of my all time favorite modern folders. The CQC-7A:

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If you don't like the brand why bother posting and trolling in the brand sections? Seems pretty childish to me.

With that said, I have an La Griffe and a Commander. I love them, great knives and I don't see any fit and finish issues.

I own a few Spydies, a few Esee fixed blades, Strider fixed blade and some others. I EDC my Commader as it just feels great and does whatever I need it to do.

If you have never held them I recommend them greatly. Buy one on the secondary market and you will see the quality.

Exactly. Someone was just trying to stir things up. :thumbdn:

Just so you guys know, this started in General and got moved here. ;)

I'm glad folks like their Emersons. I'm also glad that Ernie doesn't need my sale because he isn't getting it right now without some work on the issues I outlined above. That being said the ergos ARE good, and I like the looks of some of his pieces--I just can't justify spending that much for a knife that, in my personal opinion, has so much wrong with it from the factory. :o
 
I've carried all the brands, used them for everything too but, in the end, I settled on Emerson and won't EDC any other. Emerson has stood behind their work with me (very minor issues on two occasions) and IMO, they're as rugged and durable as any pocket knife out there. I've carried a MACH I since 2000 and it's never given me an issue and still holds a wicked edge after a few passes on a sharpener now and then.:thumbup:
 
Overpriced, overhyped and generally overrated. That's just my honest opinion, I could expand, but the guys did a good job already. And I've had a Mini Commander, CQC7 and the Super Kerambit.
Sorry, don't mean to offend anybody. Again, that's just my opinion. I guess it's a 'hate it or love it' thing.
 
Love the knives or hate them its all personal preference, sometimes people knock on Emerson knives because they can't afford them. Don't knock them till you try them. Also Emerson has the BEST customer service in the industry. I love my Emerson knives because they get the job done BETTER than other knives. I've owned a few other knives but always find that I can always count on my Emersons.

"if you dont like emerson, dont buy emerson, for emerson is doing just fine without you."

Over'n Out

- Goodspeed
 
"if you dont like emerson, dont buy emerson, for emerson is doing just fine without you."

That isn't The Emerson marketing slogan ya know.
He does want the money of more customers.
Telling people to "piss off" if they have questions isn't going to help his business, FYI.
 
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