For some reason, Emerson has never appealed to me.

That isn't The Emerson marketing slogan ya know.
He does want the money of more customers.
Telling people to "piss off" if they have questions isn't going to help his business, FYI.

Of course it isn't his marketing slogan, I'm sure you're smart enough to know that. It's clearly written by someone who likes the company. I just thought I'd re-post it. HE is not telling people to piss off, if you break down the quote it means he's not going to be hurt if you don't give him YOUR business. He can just make up for it off of other people.
 
I got a few emerson knives, mostly for collection. The one that use for edc is Cqc-7 with wave. With 154cm steel, G-10 handles, 1 sided titanium liner, lousy washers, and fit & finish that are disappointing, so one would wonder how to justify the price of emerson knives.
Emerson knives appeal to me for 2 reasons. 1st, the wave feature. 2nd, the ease of stripping and they do not void your warranty for doing so.
If spyderco or benchmade allows me to stip their knives without voiding the warranty, i would buy them instead. Seriously, how can anyone clean their knives 100% without stripping it?
 
I was in the same boat until I saw the CQC-7V. I bought one and sent it to Ferrrk. Now it is my fav knife

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I want an Emerson Persian. The blade just really appeals to me.

If I could find a similar design folder, I would look into it. Thus far I have not found anything even close to similar to Emerson Persian. Shoot I can't even find an Emerson Persian for sale.


This one ended on ebay this past week, it was unused and new it's original box. They're out there!:thumbup:

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Quite simply put this is why so many of the Emersons are modified and upgraded to bring them to where the owners know they should be once people buy one. (My opinion of course but ask yourself why EKI are the number one pimped folders on the market.). The fact is the Emerson production folders offer a good base to build up from for those wanting the custom but not being able to afford it.
- That's exactly what I did why my Emerson CQC-10 and Combat Karambit. I'm not a huge fan of liner locks in general and much prefer framelocks over them. The fit and finish was also a little rough on the liners. I love the Wave and figured that with a pimp job, I would have the two knives I really wanted from the start.
 
I've been in a quandry of sorts. I want to like the Emerson knives, but I keep reading about all the issues that they have. I don't have the money to piss away on a knife that isn't worth it, in fact, I'm having to trade off knives in hopes of picking one up. So, I'm stuck in the middle of want and worry. I'd like to get an A-100 SF or CQC7A SF. Never been a fan of the tanto design and all the curves and recurves are a little too.....well, funky for my tastes. Threads like this sure make the decision harder for the novice.
 
^ Get one and see for yourself. If you don't like it, you will be able to sell it rather quickly.
 
There was a long , long time when I was not interested in Emerson Knives either.
Years long , like the whole last decade.

I went from brand to brand trying to find what I liked in a knife. I , like many of you , developed a set of standards that were my own personal standards as to what a good knife should consist of. Looking back on my collection it took me a lot of money to get to my conclusion.

I will not talk other brands names in this thread but , out of the "big three" there is only one that I really still respect as the most innovative , customer friendly knife company I have ever seen , but I stopped buying their folders as well. I actually rid of most of my overall collection this past year to cull out the knives I did not like enough to choose to carry , for whatever reason that may be.

Pardon my ramble :D

Then I notcied a customized Emerson. Finally. It sang to my soul to be, at the very least, payed attention to. That is what got me to this point here.

My first EKI was a customized Mini CQC7BW , when I got that knife I realized perfection in many areas. Overall size was perfect , ergos were PERFECT , blade size perfect. The chisel grind that I had not had experience with since my days with CRKT worked like EKI said it would - but that knife is too nice to carry , so I bought a CQC7BW full sized and a used SARK. The full CQC7BW is my EDC for over a month now and it is perfection for me.

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Bashing 154CM is ridiculous , doing so automatically excuses one from the conversation. It is still a perfectly viable steel and will remain so for some time to come.

Price point ? I see far lesser knives going for the same pricesor more. While they may be adorned with fancier steels their flimsy nature cannot be excused.
Fit and finish ? yea , can be rough on Emersons. There is no doubting that and I can see where many folks would use that as the means to against the higher price.
I'm one of those guy that likes to tinker and personalize his own tools , so making the fit and finish perfect on my Emersons is no big deal , I actually enjoy it.

Emersons are not for everyone , but I think I finally may have found a place to rest my weary head.

Tostig
 
This forum has in the past blown fit and finish issues with Emerson knives way out of proportion. Some of the troll like rantings on some threads months back would make most curious potential buyers run away. I personally have never had a less than perfect fit and finish out of all the Emerson knives I have bought. Go for the Emerson. You will be glad you did.

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This forum has in the past blown fit and finish issues with Emerson knives way out of proportion. Some of the troll like rantings on some threads months back would make most curious potential buyers run away. I personally have never had a less than perfect fit and finish out of all the Emerson knives I have bought. Go for the Emerson. You will be glad you did.

It's a YMMV situation to be honest. You might get a perfect knife, or you might get one of these:
 
If that K-Bit arrived from the factory with a clip that dinged you might have an issue, otherwise any complaints look to be long over due for that liner.
 
I personally have never had a less than perfect fit and finish out of all the Emerson knives I have bought. Go for the Emerson.

Hopefully you're not referring to the one in the picture, which is rough, at best.

I don't harp on fit and finish; I'm interested in the usefulness of the knife, not how pretty it is. Your picture, however, shows poor fit and finish.

It's a YMMV situation to be honest. You might get a perfect knife, or you might get one of these:

Interesting that you'd take the picture while holding it in front of the tag line for Emerson's challenge. Did you send yours in when you received the knife in that condition? If not, then he's absolutely right; no place to complain. If you did send it in and it wasn't handled properly, that's another matter entirely. That degree of warp in the liner is entirely unacceptable. Did you accept it?
 
This is kookoo bananaanananananas man.

some of the opinions in here are like way out there.

I like a rough finished knife so I can tinker with it? Seriously man?

That's like saying, "my brand new $30000 car is falling apart, nothings works, but that's cool 'cause I like working on them."

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And if we stuck with what was "good enough" we would still be using stones. Constantly trying to find something better drives advancement.

and that emerson wearing the brown pants is poorly finished, thas something I'd expect out of a $30 knife
 
^You think the Emerson (I think its a 7V)with the brown scales is poorly finished? I'm not meaning that in a jerk way, I'm just genuinely curious about your view of it. I agree some people's reasons for liking things are very amusing, but I'm more interested in people's reasons for not liking things.

To me its damn near perfect, G10 is chamfered evenly and throughout, liners are jimped evenly in the right locations, all the seams are flush, the blade is centered bang on.

What I think some consider "off" on it is that the liners are a bit rougher than some companies leave them (I'm going to sound nuts here so bear with me) but I prefer them "as cut" like those or bead blasted (better grip and just looks, for me, understandably most won't agree) But looking at my BM 527 the liners on that EKI are smoother. I also don't like the non matched back spacer, which is wholly aesthetic preference.
 
Dear Apec,

You can send your knife in for warranty repair.

But I'm going to say this; I'm willing to bet the knife was not like that when you purchased it.

If this was the case, therefore insinuating that "you might get one of these", being the way you received the knife, it would be intellectually and morally dishonest. The knife appears to be quite well worn. However, if the knife was in that condition as you received it then you would be 100% honest in your intimation.

Why would you not contact us if that were the case?


My Best Regards,

Ernest R. Emerson
 
If emersons don't appeal to you it's obvious you do not need a knife that fills that role. Except for the licensed spyderco wave and cold steel's rip off wave there is no other knife in the world that can do what an emerson does. If you want a folding knife that makes an excellent back up to a CCW or a knife that is designed with self defense in mind then emerson is your knife. If you want a knife that opens letters well and cuts fruits and boxes well then go buy something else. Do you think some one trying to kill you is going to care if the G-10 on a Super CQC-8 is perfect as you run it across their face?
 
I have a Emerson Kerambit folder, and if the handle (ring area) gets compressed then the g10 will flex and the ti will bend. You just have to bend it back. This is a design that will do that, where as a solid ring will not have that ability. The only "split ring" k-bit that I have that won't bend easily is .25" thick ti on both sides, but it's also a custom. Hope this sheds some light on what should be obvious.
 
Dear Apec,

You can send your knife in for warranty repair.

But I'm going to say this; I'm willing to bet the knife was not like that when you purchased it.

If this was the case, therefore insinuating that "you might get one of these", being the way you received the knife, it would be intellectually and morally dishonest. The knife appears to be quite well worn. However, if the knife was in that condition as you received it then you would be 100% honest in your intimation.

Why would you not contact us if that were the case?


My Best Regards,

Ernest R. Emerson
Mr. Emerson,

You are correct, that knife is not NIB and I apologize since my post appeared to have indicated otherwise.

However, I've never seen a liner separate from the scale from normal use. That Super Karambit was never disassembled or abused - the toughest thing I've cut with it was 550 cord.

As for not contacting you, I decided that flaw did not impair the knife's function - a sentiment that has echoed throughout most of these threads. I do not doubt your company's customer service and I was contemplating having it under warranty, though I've already decided I would wait until the lockbar has fully depreciated.

I have a Emerson Kerambit folder, and if the handle (ring area) gets compressed then the g10 will flex and the ti will bend. You just have to bend it back. This is a design that will do that, where as a solid ring will not have that ability. The only "split ring" k-bit that I have that won't bend easily is .25" thick ti on both sides, but it's also a custom. Hope this sheds some light on what should be obvious.

It's a 2009 Super Karambit - they stopped using Ti in the nonlocking liner in 2007/2008 IIRC. Properly treated 6Al4V has superior elastic memory and wear resistance, so even if it were unsupported, it would not bend under normal circumstances.
 
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