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Four Knots contest

Discussion in 'Wilderness & Survival Skills' started by Rotte, Sep 4, 2012.

  1. Rotte

    Rotte

    Aug 30, 2008
    I had an idea for a new contest..... I was watching a young guy struggle to tie a simple knot and was shocked when he just threw a number of loops around a table leg and tied some kind of mutant granny knot to secure the load. I suppose it worked, but I couldn't help wondering what happened to basic knot skills. So here is a chance to bust out some cordage and tie a couple knots. Four to be exact.

    The Rules:

    1. You must be legally able to own the prize (see below). If you are under 18 years-old, I'll need a legal guardian to contact me an affirm you are able to possess the prize.
    2. The contest starts now, 9/4/12, and will run through 9/18/12.
    3. To enter the contest, submit a photo of 4 separate knots you have tied and a brief explanation of how you use these knots. Please submit knots that you use frequently, but try to learn one new knot for this contest. You do not need to use unique knots, i.e. everyone can submit a square knot as one of their knots, but how lame would that be?
    4. Contestants are limited to one entry only, but feel free to post more than four knots if you choose.
    5. The winner will be selected by random drawing from the list of successful entires.

    The Prize:

    Turley Custom Soldier River Knife. Red Linen Micarta scales. (Some light use, not mint, but really in very good shape.)

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    Example entry (doesn't need to be 4 separate photos, just the way I did it):

    Bowline; easy to tie and untie, I use it for hoisting my bear-bag or tying guy-lines to tarp grommets:

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    Tracing Eight; very secure, can be tied in the middle of a rope to form a loop, my preferred knot to tie into a climbing rope:

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    Taught line hitch (variant); one of my favorite knots, use to tighten tent or tarp guy-lines or when securing the canoe to the top of the Jeep, maintains tension, easy to adjust:

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    Carrick Bend; don't really use this much, just a cool knot; useful for joining two thick ropes together; easy to untie, even after being under a heavy load:

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  2. Rotte

    Rotte

    Aug 30, 2008
    List of contestants so far....

    1. dantzk8
    2. panzertroop
    3. Doc Canada
    4. peeintheshower
    5. Robert Carter
    6. arcadiaknives
    7. Pitdog
    8. sutured
    9. Smokinape
    10. Bowman1911
    11. LG&M
    12. Munky88
    13. Mossyhorn
    14. Bladz' Son
    15. Oregon Fal'er
    16. Jack Black
    17. Crafty
    18. Dipbait
    19. paranoidsentry
    20. Cougar Allen
    21. abo4ster
    22. ...
     
    Last edited: Sep 17, 2012
  3. Outsoul

    Outsoul

    56
    Dec 31, 2011
    Excellent idea! And a Turley for a prize?! I am IN!
     
  4. Outsoul

    Outsoul

    56
    Dec 31, 2011
    Oooops!
     
    Last edited: Sep 4, 2012
  5. Munky88

    Munky88

    Jun 1, 2008
    You have a lot of very nice knives that you don't love enough. But yay, another contest!

    Not posting my entery yet, but I have a cool link i found on reddit a few days ago. From the International Knot tyers Guild forum. Yeah, apparently that's a thing. Don't you just love the internet?

    http://igkt.net/sm/index.php?topic=4028
     
  6. dantzk8

    dantzk8

    759
    Nov 1, 2005
    I do like knot threads! Thanks Rotte.

    Four knots only. It's a pretty tough choice to make, so i will narrow it to the knots i use the most in my daily life. No climbing knots, no sailing knots, no fishing knots. Just backyard knots.
    I've tried to picture them to let see how they are made for those of you who wouldn't know them.

    There will be a fixed loop, an adjustable grip hitch which is as well an adjustable loop, a bending knot and a tightening knot.

    Though i've never seen those knots break or slip i don't advise them when safety is a concern. There are specialty knots for that purpose but the knots i've chosen have some advantages.

    Here they are:

    A fixed loop, i've seen it called "angler's loop" and "perfect loop". I've never been able to make of it a decent fishing knot but it's not far from perfection. Easy to make and untie, not cumbersome, holds very well. However if safety is the concern prefer the eight or the nine knot.



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    An ajustable grip hitch. Easy to untie, takes the load but it's not an hoist, the trucker's hitch is the one you need for that purpose. I use it very often, for instance for setting up a tarp. It doesn't slip.

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    A bend knot. It's a variation of the bowline knot and thus is prone to untie if not loaded but it has a great advantage : it can be length ruled on both sides. There again if safety is engaged prefer the carrick knot but be sure you do it properly.

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    A tightening knot. The constrictor knot. Very useful. It's one of the Ashley's knot and thus is a very valuable knot. I don't know anything better to tighten the neck of a bag. It can be used as well to tie a rope on a pole.

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    The only one flaw is that it's a bit hard to untie. To fix that issue the best way is to make a bight of the working end. You can as well double tuck the knot for a permanent tightening. It gives this:

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    dantzk.
     
    Last edited: Sep 5, 2012
  7. panzertroop

    panzertroop Gold Member Gold Member

    Aug 8, 2008
    1) Figure 8 on a bight - good for creating a secure loop on the end of a rope
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    2) Sheet bend - good for joining two pieces of rope
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    3) Two half Hitches - lashing
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    4) Tautline Hitch - tightening ridgelines, etc.
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    extra credit! 5) Prussik Knot or grapevine - great for creating a loop of rope that can be shortened or lengthened.
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  8. RescueRiley

    RescueRiley

    Mar 22, 2006
    ******I'm not participating for the prize in this one*****
    though it is extremely generous and cool

    But I would like to throw some knots up just for fun.

    Just some thoughts.. I find the more streanlined my outings become the fewer knots I need. I have about 5 or 6 that work well for me. to do just about everything I need within the limited span of my outings.
    I am bot a climber though, Nor do Iever really need to haul massive amounts of gear or timber that would require more detailed knots. for my basic needs these are my most common.

    Here's one I use allot mostly for starting a ridgeline. It;s just a quick release hitch
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    My next most commnly used knot is another taught line hitch variant I use it mostly for making adjustable guylines for shelters, or sometimes at the other end of a ridge line so I can adjust tension
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    Here's one I use allot a slip knot with a an overhand. I use this sometimes when employing a button rock to expand my shelter, or I often wrap it around a twig and put it through a grommet in a poncho or tarp. I also use it when playing with snares.
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    and lastly the clove hitch ( use this the least but it is often what a start a lashing with when making a shelter frame.
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  9. DOC-CANADA

    DOC-CANADA

    Apr 14, 2006
    Do videos count?

    [video=youtube;P0Om14mtxOw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=P0Om14mtxOw[/video]

    Doc
     
  10. Rotte

    Rotte

    Aug 30, 2008
    Oh, hell YES!
     
  11. mewolf1

    mewolf1 Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Oct 24, 2005
    Good stuff right there Doc!!:thumbup:
     
  12. bladz

    bladz

    432
    Feb 12, 2008
    This is awesome Rotte! My 12 yr old is going to submit the knots.

    clove hitch. I use this knot sometimes when starting lashing.
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    bowline. I use this knot to make a non sliding loop. Sometimes around a pole if I don't want it to get tight and jam.
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    double sheet bend. I use this to connect two ropes. I have used it when my shoelaces broke.
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    perfection/anglers loop - This is a new one my dad taught me. He said he learned it from my grandpa when tying down loads on truck beds.
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    Last edited: Sep 9, 2012
  13. Rotte

    Rotte

    Aug 30, 2008
    In my view, the biggest waste of a knife is to have it sit unused in the closet. Don't worry, I have a couple more in mind to use for more contests later on. I'm just hoping the winner here will use the hell out this Turley and love doing it.
     
  14. Rotte

    Rotte

    Aug 30, 2008
    You just made my day. :encouragement:
     
  15. peeintheshower

    peeintheshower

    345
    Jul 21, 2012
    great contest! thankyou!

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    Celtic button knot or monkey fist that i love using for lanyards, its awesome to quickly grab your keys or knife.


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    peter atwood's lanyard knot with my own little twist. Basically, tie this knot twice in one go, and you end up with my modified version.

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    i think this is a slip noose. my grandfather tought (pun intended again) me this knot a long time ago for rigging fish lines. My grandfather was a fisherman and i use this knot till today rigging lines.

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    this is another knot my grandfather showed me how to tie; and it is tied around a knife that i am actually having a give away going on right now. this knot was intended to be used by sailors to dock their boats. some peers have steel bars that run horizontally, and this knot is used to tie down the boat.

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    last but not least, this bad boy. I don't know the name of this knot ether, but it was something i just discovered by myself (im sure it is a common knot) i guess this knot could be used as an anchor knot.
     
  16. Rotte

    Rotte

    Aug 30, 2008
    peeintheshower --

    The knot around your knife is a clove hitch, but with the bitter end dogged under the riding turn. The clove hitch is considered one of the most useful knots ever. Good call. Your last knot is a Figure Eight knot. Another very useful knot--classic stopper knot. My Tracing Eight knot or the Figure Eight tied by panzertroop above is the same knot tied on a bight (loop) or you can take the bitter end of your line and 'trace' your way back through the eight knot to make a loop.

    Nice Monkey fist!
     
    Last edited: Sep 5, 2012
  17. peeintheshower

    peeintheshower

    345
    Jul 21, 2012
    i see what your talking about rotte, i would not have seen that. thanks! this is actually really getting my attention now, knots are a very important skill to know. my bundles of paracord all around my house were just for bracelets lol. however when i line the rifle up to my stand when hunting, i do find myself using ether the clover hitch or the slip knot. also, i use the knots when i go fishing; i know a handful of other useful ones. i should start paying attention to some names
     
  18. fast14riot

    fast14riot Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 27, 2010
    I will be putting my entry in tomorrow for sure! Reserving this space for now.


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  19. dantzk8

    dantzk8

    759
    Nov 1, 2005
    I hope so! Great video Doc. We had talked about those knots some months ago and i've played with them since. The marlin spike hitch and the toggled trucker's hitch are among the most useful knots i know. What a brain can make of a small piece of wood is amazing.

    dantzk.
     
  20. Robert Carter

    Robert Carter

    538
    Sep 26, 2011
    This is a inline eye splice I use as a winching point or tie off when securing barrels to hand rails or crash rail on my vessel.
    http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8032/7942261894_4f9efd5b7b_z.jpg
    Double sheet bend for joining 2 pieces of rope
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    Double bowline use for harnessing. Fully adjustable and it won't slip
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    Standard eye splice. We use this mostly for 2 inch nylon ropes for mooring lines.
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    Sail makers whipping. Used for securing the left over tails of the eye splice. We usually use 3/8 inch manilla rope for lashing the splice tails on 2 inch mooring lines.
    http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8169/7942257278_5a178cf143.jpg
     

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