From the arcane world of knifemaking...

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My website clearly states: "Most of my orders come from people who want a knife that is engineered by someone with my experience and background - as you might imagine, experience and background in grinding steel is not at the top of their list. With the exception of the Baby Chisos I don't regularly fabricate blades."

Please take the time to read, think about what you read and then, if you must - ask me a question.
 
BMK said:
My website clearly states: "Most of my orders come from people who want a knife that is engineered by someone with my experience and background - as you might imagine, experience and background in grinding steel is not at the top of their list. With the exception of the Baby Chisos I don't regularly fabricate blades."

Please take the time to read, think about what you read and then, if you must - ask me a question.
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OK.
What part of buying a prefabricated, designed by someone else blade blank do you consider engineering?
 
And Part 2 to the question.

How does your experience and background make you picking out a catalog knife blank any better than say my 13 year old niece doing the same thing?

And, since she picked out her own dress from a catalog, and then bedazzled it when she got it, should I call her up and tell her to forget college?

I mean, that makes her an engineer already, right?
And a seamstress, dressmaker, and designer.

Damn, she's got skills.

4 titles I can think of quickly @ 13 years old.

I'm so proud!
 
Fellhoelter said:
OK.
What part of buying a prefabricated, designed by someone else blade blank do you consider engineering?
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try reading one before ou enter into a losing argument:

2engineerverb
Definition of ENGINEER
transitive verb
1: to lay out, construct, or manage as an engineer <engineer a bridge>
2a : to contrive or plan out usually with more or less subtle skill and craft <engineer a business deal> b : to guide the course of <engineer a rally>
3: to modify or produce by genetic engineering <corn engineered to resist crop pests>
See engineer defined for English-language learners »
Examples of ENGINEER
The rebels engineered a successful attack.
<the mayor engineered an agreement to have a major league team play in our city>
 
me2 said:
Anyone?
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simply:

heated to critical temp, oil quenched, heated to 425 and air cooled x3 cycles

I am sure there is a more complicated and "arcane" version of what I described that many of you can share with me;-)
 
you say you grind your own blades. lets see a video of your equipment WITH PROOF THAT ITS YOUR EQUIPMENT and not just some picture from some manufacturers website. if you have a laptop have your thread showing and make a post while making the video. if not then we will know you are full of it.
 
Fellhoelter said:
And Part 2 to the question.

How does your experience and background make you picking out a catalog knife blank any better than say my 13 year old niece doing the same thing?

And, since she picked out her own dress from a catalog, and then bedazzled it when she got it, should I call her up and tell her to forget college?

I mean, that makes her an engineer already, right?
And a seamstress, dressmaker, and designer.

Damn, she's got skills.

4 titles I can think of quickly @ 13 years old.

I'm so proud!
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I see you are from Lake Havasu - I flew over that area all the time when I was flight instructing out of Southern California. Sadly, your location was the most interesting part of your post.
 
richard j said:
you say you grind your own blades. lets see a video of your equipment WITH PROOF THAT ITS YOUR EQUIPMENT and not just some picture from some manufacturers website. if you have a laptop have your thread showing and make a post while making the video. if not then we will know you are full of it.
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Why don't you go play Dick Tracy somewhee else because this forum is for "serious" (whatever that means) knife makers and makers of sparks;)
 
Well, that did not answer either question at all did it?

I asked
What part of buying a prefabricated, designed by someone else blade blank do you consider engineering?
Not what makes you think you're an engineer.

You can engineer the build of something without actually engineering the item.

They are different.

As a toolmaker, I regularly engineered the procedures and processes for the manufacture of hundreds of items.
However, I did not engineer the items themselves.

You very specifically say that you engineer the knife.

Again I ask, which part of buying an already manufactured, and designed by someone else, knife blank do you consider engineering?

I'm asking about that specific step in the process, not the process as a whole.

As most of us consider the part that cuts to be the knife, it's confusing to see how buying a knife and then putting a handle on it constitutes engineering the knife.

Nice avoidance on the second question too.

Again I ask
How does your experience and background make you picking out a catalog knife blank any better than anyone else doing the same thing?
 
BMK said:
Why don't you go play Dick Tracy somewhee else because this forum is for "serious" (whatever that means) knife makers and makers of sparks;)
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Since you are a knife assembler and not a maker, perhaps you should take your own advice. . .
 
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Fellhoelter said:
Well, that did not answer either question at all did it?

I asked
What part of buying a prefabricated, designed by someone else blade blank do you consider engineering?
Not what makes you think you're an engineer.

You can engineer the build of something without actually engineering the item.

They are different.

As a toolmaker, I regularly engineered the procedures and processes for the manufacture of hundreds of items.
However, I did not engineer the items themselves.

You very specifically say that you engineer the knife.

Again I ask, which part of buying an already manufactured, and designed by someone else, knife blank do you consider engineering?

I'm asking about that specific step in the process, not the process as a whole.

As most of us consider the part that cuts to be the knife, it's confusing to see how buying a knife and then putting a handle on it constitutes engineering the knife.

Nice avoidance on the second question too.

Again I ask
How does your experience and background make you picking out a catalog knife blank any better than anyone else doing the same thing?
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Allow me to try again: if a race car driver picks out a car from a showroom floor, that choice will be superior to someone's choice who has never driven a car. Is that simple enough for you to comprehed? If not, you might consider having your niece explain it to you.
 
BMK said:
I see you are from Lake Havasu - I flew over that area all the time when I was flight instructing out of Southern California. Sadly, your location was the most interesting part of your post.
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How unfortunate you feel that way.

The logic in that post seems to be exactly in line with your logic.

I figured you would appreciate it, since she is demonstrating the same skill set you are so proud of.
 
BMK said:
Allow me to try again: if a race car driver picks out a car from a showroom floor, that choice will be superior to someone's choice who has never driven a car. Is that simple enough for you to comprehed? If not, you might consider having your niece explain it to you.
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Nope.

But, I'm simple minded.
If I go to the local Toyota dealership with Kyle Busch, and I pick a fully loaded Camry, and he picks a fully loaded Camry, why is his Camry better than mine?
Mind you, we're not picking them for ourselves, but for a third party.

That third party is still getting a Camry, regardless of who picked it.
I fail to see why one Camry would be better than another...

I will give the niece a call though.
Perhaps 13 year old girl logic will be able to make sense of this.
 
It might be interesting to take all the individual components of a knife: handle material, pins, tubing, adhesive, finish texture and blade - place them in a bag and continue shaking the bag until you have a finished knife. I encourage you to try this and let me know how many shakes it takes to finish the knife. Some of you are very clever and might know the answer without having to shake the bag repeatedly.

When you are done with that exercise, determine how many different combinations of knives can be produced form all the pre-fabricated components available off the internet. You will probably need a calculator for this phase of your training.

At some point, you will see that material selection and assembly are the most essential elements of making a knife. Sorry to leave you no wiggle room but I need to attend to some "knifemaking" (tbd) business;-) Assemble a few more geniuses and come up with an entertaining response.
 
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Bravo.
What are we up to in this thread, at least a dozen very direct, very reasonable questions that you have avoided answering?

Good luck in the snake oil sales path.
 
Fellhoelter said:
Bravo.
What are we up to in this thread, at least a dozen very direct, very reasonable questions that you have avoided answering?

Good luck in the snake oil sales path.
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Just because you are unable to understand an answer does not mean your question was "unanswered". I am sorry that I am apparently unable to "reach" you.
 
just because you "bought" a knifemakers membership doesnt mean you are a knifemaker :rolleyes:. lets see some PROOF that you have the ability to make a knife. lets see a video of your shop and equipment. if not i agree with morimotom.



MORIMOTOM said:
you are so full of bs i can't even begin to keep up.
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