Fusion Fixation Bowie - Broke

If you get a Busse you will also pay the price for one (usually.) My understanding is the Busse line (infi steel) goes through quite a bit of attention to heat treat and other which takes longer, requires more work, and raises the price considerably.

No correct me if I am wrong but for a larger blade isn't it more time consuming and costly (quality control, skills used, amount of rejects etc..) to manufacture a blade that has the properties of toughness, resistance to breakage, and edge retention (hardness) properly balanced (perhaps even differential heat treatment.) I am under the impression this requires quite a bit of attention during manufacture.

I don't know what kind of steel this fusion line is made of but I remember some of the older SOG knives were made of AUS6A which if someone can correct me if I am wrong had less edge retention but was tougher. I would rather give up some edge retention for a tougher, stronger outdoor knife that you could baton with.

Don't get me wrong I don't think this was abuse and I don't think that kind of a knife should be marketed as military knife by a reputable company. I would rather they market a knife that sacrifices edge retention (hardness) using low cost manufacturing (for stainless you don't get the best of both unless you pay for it) so that the knife can take more abuse than try to satisfy the masses by cheaply mass producing a knife that has good edge retention at the cost of toughness (a hard brittle knife) and is full of nasty surprises.

I think part of the problem is the demand that every knife have a fantastic edge holding capability but nobody wants to pay full price. Cutting corners by sacrificing toughness for edge retention might work well in little knives that are not expected to be subjected to much stress (cutting only) but the big blades that are supposed to be tougher will hold a great edge but snap like glass at the slightest amount stress (chopping, batoning, prying, dropping, etc..)

Of course with carbon steel all of this would be moot. Why don't they (SOG) use good old cheap carbon steel which is known to be easy and economical to get right, is tough as nails, and holds an edge well. I don't know I guess everyone wants stainless ?

I don't find a problem with the cheaper steel if is used in a knife (perhaps a small knife) where it is not an issue.
 
Not all SOGs are of this quality. I love the Tomcat 3 it is a great knife. I also like the visonary 2 and vision knives.

I tend to not trust large cheap stainless fixed miracle blades no matter who makes them
 
I found this thread after actually ordering a Fusion Bowie on Ebay and the seller failed to ship it.

I was looking at other decent survival-type knives from SOG and this thread convinced me to stay clear from anything with "Fusion" on it.

I did find a Tiger Shark for a reasonable price, though...
 
I don't know what kind of steel this fusion line is made of but I remember some of the older SOG knives were made of AUS6A which if someone can correct me if I am wrong had less edge retention but was tougher. I would rather give up some edge retention for a tougher, stronger outdoor knife that you could baton with.

This is what I prefer as well, when most of SOG's fixed blades were AUS6 Seki Japan. Some people didn't like AUS6, which I think was the main reason SOG changed to AUS8 and shifting production to maintain costs
 
it's quite some thread we got goin' here.
i know the feeling of having loss something.
and especially sorry for anyone who just happen to break a brand new knife in less than a week.
suffering the loss of a broken knife is one thing, but the loss of confidence in a premier product has turned out to be the greatest blow ever.
we all can learn something here, mainly that all knives should be considered serious (as it sometimes involves life 'n death) matters, especially so if the advertising and promotions materials are built around creating the perception of total product dependability and trustworthiness .
i sincerly hope that all "fun" products be randomly put throught the most gruelling paces to determine actual strength before that are even considered worthy of the SOG Knives tag.
 
hello, my fixation bowie is not of the fusion line. it is a sog fixation bowie. i batoned and chopped with it and the steel seems thicker and it had no problems. has sog changed this lineup since its such a cool knife thats so popular that always breaks when used?
 
hello, my fixation bowie is not of the fusion line. it is a sog fixation bowie. i batoned and chopped with it and the steel seems thicker and it had no problems. has sog changed this lineup since its such a cool knife thats so popular that always breaks when used?

That's encouraging. Reading all the posts from 2009 leading up to yours was really upsetting to me.
 
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