Gayle Bradley Hard Use

marthinus said:
My M4 Military tends to disagree

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on the farm
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You can guess what the knife was used for.

Proper knife care while cutting is always a must in my book. I use my knives for hard cutting chores, but dont abuse them.

My Manix M4 is MIA in the post :( hopefully it will turn up in a week or two now that they are searching for it.
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well played sir well played

i retract my comment
 
dcycleman said:
Para2 is stronger than a manix2 any day
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Is it really? I own the PM2 but not a Manix. Was looking to get the next Manix sprint (whenever that will be.) I never handled a Manix but it looks to be about the same size as the p2. I love my p2 but thought the Manix was a beefier knife? Man I can't wait for bladeshow so I can check EVERYTHING out.
 
Manix feels beefier, but the cage ball lock won't take as much punishment as the compression lock. From everything I have seen and owning both
 
tradestar said:
Is it really? I own the PM2 but not a Manix. Was looking to get the next Manix sprint (whenever that will be.) I never handled a Manix but it looks to be about the same size as the p2. I love my p2 but thought the Manix was a beefier knife? Man I can't wait for bladeshow so I can check EVERYTHING out.
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Spyderco doesn't release results of their testing but I'd be very surprised if the P2 compression lock isn't stronger than the Manix 2 CBL, and probably by a good margin. The compression lock is just about dead-reliable and bullet-proof strong. Also, for whatever it's worth, the bladestock on the P2 is 3.5mm compared to 3mm for the Manix 2.
 
JNewell said:
Spyderco doesn't release results of their testing but I'd be very surprised if the P2 compression lock isn't stronger than the Manix 2 CBL, and probably by a good margin. The compression lock is just about dead-reliable and bullet-proof strong. Also, for whatever it's worth, the bladestock on the P2 is 3.5mm compared to 3mm for the Manix 2.
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1. i do agree in an "extreme" situation the pm2 could probably hold up better to things like spine whacks or sudden jolts of pressure on the spine however with a constant pressure they are fairly close around 200-300 lbs i think
HOWEVER that being said the liner on the pm2 WILL deform i know cause i have seen it... now dont get me wrong it took purposely trying to MAKE it fail to do this (this does include the use of tools) however in my experience the manix does not deform thus it would have a longer service life

meaning yes i think that the pm2 would beat out the manix on the FIRST test or "hard use"(abuse really) however then the pm2 very quickly degrades in "lock strength" with high percentages removed per stressing force

whereas the manix will be a bit more susceptible to closing (still more than i need) however it will for all intensive purposes remain that strong far past when the pm2 is rendered unsafe

well at least in my experience however i have used both hard

its like s30v vs vg10 vg10 holds a razor edge much longer than s30v however s30v will hold a cutting edge much much much loner than vg10

2. yes pm2 is 3.5mm thick but it has an aggressive distal taper down to a fairly delicate tip so unless your talking about breaking the blade in half it shouldn't make a difference

3. the stop pin on a pm2 is much more susceptible to peen (creating blade play) or break because its thinner steel and its round and it only has one screw vs the manix has a flat face against the tang and its all but solid steel as well as the fact that there are two screws in the blade stop for a manix

and i have broken a TON of stop pins (not on a pm2 though) and have used the manix the same way or harder for much longer now and it feels REALLY close to how it came from factory

4. in my experience the manix is much more solid for ex i have chopped with mine pried with it and done some HARD cutting/woodworking/pvcworking and i cant feel any play flex yes play no now the pm2 that i have in front of me has seen some woodworking and general food prep type slicing and i can feel what is only explainable as the bushing in the pivot wiggling

basically the manix has had more hard use and actual abuse and the pm2 has had quite limited hard use and light duty cutting and it has way more play (granted its still acceptable and is not as big a deal as it sounds here its just in comparison to the manix it does have more play)

5. from what i have seen and done you will break a tip/blade before you have to worry about the lock and the fact is the pm2 is more susceptible to that than the manix granted they are both very tough however IMHO i dont see the manix as being "stronger" or "tougher" or "harder use"
 
The spydie hole is slightly covered by the handle scales but it is still "flickable". In my opinion it's still pretty easy to flick open. It's a great knife and also a great value.
 
Love this thread! The GB looks fantastic with some wear on it. I've gotten used to carrying a front pocket Spydie and a back pocket beater at work. Looks like I could be using a GB for both, and still be carrying a great looking knife. :cool:
 
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JNewell said:
Spyderco doesn't release results of their testing but I'd be very surprised if the P2 compression lock isn't stronger than the Manix 2 CBL, and probably by a good margin. The compression lock is just about dead-reliable and bullet-proof strong. Also, for whatever it's worth, the bladestock on the P2 is 3.5mm compared to 3mm for the Manix 2.
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I just calipered those knives and you are dead on. I really love both, but the compression lock is amazingly cool.
 
I still cant find anything to complain about with the GB. A superb knife. One of my favorites, but I can never understand the complaint about the hole. I can open and close the knife with heavy work gloves. No it is not as easy closing as a Military, but it is doable.

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I baby the **** out of my Gayle Bradley. But I'm glad to see others push it to the limits and show what the knife is capable of. Well done sirs!
 
JerryIsAlive said:
How is the spydie hole on this? Is it tough to flick open like the para?
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Not only is it easy to flick open once you get the technique down but it is also one of the smoothest opening knives I have ever handled, I haven't handled a sebenza so I can't confirm, but I have heard some comparisons.
 
I had a GB, but in my opinion it was too nice from hard use. I knew it could handle it, but couldn't bring myself to use it like it was made to be used.
 
tacdriver22mk2 said:
i am NOT with this the para is NOT a "hard use" knife the blade and tip is way to delicate thats why m390 suits it so well i mean if you wanna try using it hard be my guest but an m4 para would be like puttin a m4 millie to hard work and i will save you the 200+ bucks it will end with a busted blade
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Ugh... that's the one flaw with bladeforums. Sure, we get a ton of really great info, but there is also a lot of the same old garbage posted over and over again, that all of a sudden is repeated by everyone who doesn't really have a clue. All of a sudden you have people saying how they are scared to carve tent pegs with their Military because of the fragile tip. (true story, I have heard it said on here). And it's most of the time either said by people whose idea of "hard use" consists of breaking down cardboard boxes, or people whose idea of proper tool usage is using their screwdriver to hammer a screw into sheet metal....

Yes, on a small level the grind and tip is "more fragile" on a millie than on some other designs. This does not however make it fragile in and of itself. If you have a repeated problem of snapping tips, then I'd say forget the Millie, sure. And also, maybe work on your cutting form :p
 
Damn you, Blade Forums!

I haven't even yet received my last knife purchase and now I've ordered one of these. :grumpy:

Oh, well, looks like I get to alternate new Spyderco EDC's for a while. :rolleyes:
 
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