GEC #77 Medium Barlow Impressions

r8shell said:
Nickel silver is basically "white brass". I don't know exactly how it compares to yellow brass (an alloy of copper and zinc) on the hardness scale, but it's not soft like sterling silver.

Nickel silver, Maillechort, German silver, Argentan, new silver, nickel brass, albata, alpacca, is a copper alloy with nickel and often zinc. The usual formulation is 60% copper, 20% nickel and 20% zinc. Nickel silver is named due to its silvery appearance, but it contains no elemental silver unless plated. Wikipedia
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Thanks for that. I like NS liners a lot, the FORUM 11 and 13 knives had them and unlike yellow brass you won't get verdigris-which is a foul fiend on light bone or Stag once it get's leeching:poop:

As Ron pointed out, many CASE knives used to have NS liners and to no ill effect, on the contrary.
 
bbk357 said:
This is so true. I dyed my NW Michigan in green camel- but it took many, many times to get it to be black. And the bone was mostly white with just green specs. Finally boiling it on the 4th attempt did it.
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Camel appears to be very shy according to taking up dye. I've seen a 'Black' 83 lockback that was more or less cream with grey flecks but looked marvellous :cool: A Tidioute Farmer's Jack I have in Camel is a very nice autumn brown colour but I think undyed/natural polished Camel bone would look great too, BUT the pores might take up a lot of polishing compound giving a Dalmatian look:D Might work well though.
 
Question: If I submitted my reservation when it was yellow but I still got an email does that mean I made it in?

I’m very excited because for many other and myself this will be our first #77!

Can’t wait!
 
Jak3 said:
Question: If I submitted my reservation when it was yellow but I still got an email does that mean I made it in?

I’m very excited because for many other and myself this will be our first #77!

Can’t wait!
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Yellow is good, means it was filling up but there were still available spots. Surefire way to check is to log in to your CK account, and there will be an Early Reserve section that shows you what knives/at which status you have reserved.
 
Half/Stop said:
S SnailOffTheTrail I’ll say you’ve not got a thing to worry about with NS liners and bolsters! Case used that combination for decades on a lot of their knives. These two have NS liners and bolsters. I’m not positive but I believe the pins are also NS.

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I’m pretty sure the only steel pins gec uses are through steel bolsters, any other white metal pin is nickel silver.
thepapercut said:
When/where was this announced? A Crown Lifter option would certainly change how I prioritize things for me...
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Joke/wishful thinking.
 
How a non ferrous material is processed after being cast can greatly alter its physical properties..... Generally hot worked materials yield lower physical properties than cold worked materials...….. The amount of reduction during cold working also influences the physical properties... Liner material would typically be extruded (hot) from a billet into round strands..... The strands would then be cold rolled on a multi stand rolling mill into sheet form.... It might require multiple annealing and rolling operations before reaching the target size.... The final rolling operation establishes the correct physical properties...…… Silver and nickel are added to copper based materials to increase wear resistance and strength..... The final use of the material dictates not only the chemical makeup of the material but also the processing recipe to assure the correct physical properties for the intended application...….
 
Half/Stop said:
S SnailOffTheTrail I’ll say you’ve not got a thing to worry about with NS liners and bolsters! Case used that combination for decades on a lot of their knives. These two have NS liners and bolsters. I’m not positive but I believe the pins are also NS.

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Ol Yeller and Ol Red are really looking fine my friend . They were both out of a magnificent litter .

Harry
 
Thank you all for taking time to dispel my friend's concerns. :-) NS appears to be somewhat soft, you know - bolsters. You give them a strict look and they scratch. But since also the pivot pin is NS and the blade doesn't chew through it, it should be alright.

I thought this would be my one and only NF barlow, but I feel already that I will try to score some all steel clip point in the future.
 
SnailOffTheTrail said:
Thank you all for taking time to dispel my friend's concerns. :) NS appears to be somewhat soft, you know - bolsters. You give them a strict look and they scratch. But since also the pivot pin is NS and the blade doesn't chew through it, it should be alright.

I thought this would be my one and only NF barlow, but I feel already that I will try to score some all steel clip point in the future.
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S.O.T.T., Keep in mind that NS bolsters, pins & liners are all manufactured differently and will rightfully have different physical properties...….… Same as Apples make applesauce, apple juice & sliced apples...…..
 
Boxer .45 said:
Aren't all the GEC bolsters made from nickel silver?
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Unless specified otherwise, yes, they are Nickel Silver.

bbk357 said:
All this NS vs Steel talk is making me wonder about the construction of my 77 NF single blade... anyone know what they used on this run ?


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Steel looks very different than Nickel Silver, in my opinion anyway. I don't know for certain on your particular example but it does look like steel to me.

The pic below, I was able to capture (unintentionally) the differences in appearance. The two bottom knives have steel bolsters, the above knives have nickel silver.

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Pàdruig said:
Unless specified otherwise, yes, they are Nickel Silver.



Steel looks very different than Nickel Silver, in my opinion anyway. I don't know for certain on your particular example but it does look like steel to me.

The pic below, I was able to capture (unintentionally) the differences in appearance. The two bottom knives have steel bolsters, the above knives have nickel silver.

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Thanks- good example. Yes I’m pretty sure that single clip blade is steel. And I noticed this older one I used to own had more of a tarnished look to it- must be NS bolsters in this one.

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Pàdruig said:
Unless specified otherwise, yes, they are Nickel Silver.
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See, thats what I thought. Therefore I don't see the issue here with these barlows being nickle silver.
I'm so excited they could make them out of wood and I'd be all over it.;) JK
 
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