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This is an opinion thread. I have stated mine. GEC has produced the finest production knives over the past 17 years.

I have probably owned a few hundred GEC knives over the years. I did have one that had a sharp jigging spot that could have cut me if I had pressed the wrong way against it. I do wish that all of their past models were in stock all the time, but that will never happen.

Thls is just a picture of a fine GEC.
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CVamberbonehead said:
Rug burn is something you give yourself. I did not spend an hour trying to get their jigged bone to splinter into my hand, I just reached into my pocket...
A sharp bone splinter to the thumb is not an endearing old timey charm. It is poor fit and finish.
If a Rough Rider or Case had done this and I complained on here, people would say "wow that sucks, what poor F&F. You get what you pay for, at least it was cheap. That is why I never buy one without inspecting it in person." Instead of "the splintering bone shows that they put love and care into it". Just saying.
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Well never had a splinter from any bone GEC or Northwoods here but I will note I'm considered very insensitive.
 
CVamberbonehead said:
Ok, I know they mostly hand make knives. Thats fine. Great. They do a good job. But...

Sharp corners on the knives is not a preference thing. It is a tool. Supposedly anyway. How exactly are sharp edges on your hand a good thing for a tool to have? Do you have a preference for your scewdrivers to have sharp protruding spots? Hammers? Thats bad design.
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Sharp edges can also be a sign of tight tolerances, and easily remedied with a couple of swipes of a file.

Saying that, I can understand your point though.

Not all models display these characteristics, so if a model is uncomfortable to the user, it can be returned.

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As far as pull strength, yeah I guess some people like their ridiculous nail breaker pulls so that is subjective. I guess I just need to eat more Wheaties or something, because GECs sometimes are kinda painful on my thumbs to open. Some of their knives I would honestly be a bit nervous about trying to open. Especially since they add half stops to most knives which makes for a jerky opening.
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I prefer a stiff pull. If it's too hard for someone to open, then likely that model is not for them. Also, these springs will weaken over time.
CVamberbonehead said:
The bone splinter thing is an objective issue. Not sure how you can spin that one into a subjective preference. Maybe you like your knife leaving a little reminder of GEC quality in your thumb? I did not.

Also, the crap warranty is an objective problem. I guess you could spin it though. Maybe the crap warranty keeps collector values high due to some knives getting trashed and not fixed, thereby making the remaining knives more valuable? Lol
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Natural materials will sometimes have variable characteristics.

And to state they have a crap warranty is debatable.

They will replace any knife that has defects. They won't for one that's been used. They are upfront and share this with buyers, so they are doing exactly what they say they will do.

It is likely by not having to constantly warranty used knives, it keeps initial cost down, and keeps labor on creating new knives, which means more products.

Remember, this is a niche brand that is not a large conglomerate. Despite not servicing older and used products, they still sell all their new ones.

By comparison:
A person can buy a $35,000 Polaris, and you receive a six month limited warranty on defective parts, and only if Polaris dealers deem them so. They still are selling faster than they can make them, and at full MSRP.

It just is what it is.
 
Travman said:
This is an opinion thread. I have stated mine. GEC has produced the finest production knives over the past 17 years.

I have probably owned a few hundred GEC knives over the years. I did have one that had a sharp jigging spot that could have cut me if I had pressed the wrong way against it. I do wish that all of their past models were in stock all the time, but that will never happen.

Thls is just a picture of a fine GEC.

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Oh it's hideous!
 
Re-issuing the exact same model again will affect the value of the original model. That will affect the large collector base of GEC, as wellas those that bought a knife on the secondary.

Farm and Field are the only ones I remember that are regularly produced in identical specifications. They are also, in my opinion, the best GECs, with low price and excellent quality, a real user knife.

Regarding prices, people were edging on the dealers to increase the prices, to discourage the flippers, so now you pay more at the dealers and still even more on the secondary.

As I said a few times before, people buying all the variants, and then some more, does affect availability, even if they "release" them later.
 
MolokaiRider said:
Sharp edges can also be a sign of tight tolerances, and easily remedied with a couple of swipes of a file.

Saying that, I can understand your point though.

Not all models display these characteristics, so if a model is uncomfortable to the user, it can be returned.


I prefer a stiff pull. If it's too hard for someone to open, then likely that model is not for them. Also, these springs will weaken over time.

Natural materials will sometimes have variable characteristics.

And to state they have a crap warranty is debatable.

They will replace any knife that has defects. They won't for one that's been used. They are upfront and share this with buyers, so they are doing exactly what they say they will do.

It is likely by not having to constantly warranty used knives, it keeps initial cost down, and keeps labor on creating new knives, which means more products.

Remember, this is a niche brand that is not a large conglomerate. Despite not servicing older and used products, they still sell all their new ones.

By comparison:
A person can buy a $35,000 Polaris, and you receive a six month limited warranty on defective parts, and only if Polaris dealers deem them so. They still are selling faster than they can make them, and at full MSRP.

It just is what it is.
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Filing on your knife voids the crap warranty. Also cant be returned because you used it to find out the sharp edges hurt. Lol

Splintering into your thumb = "Variable characteristics" of the bone? That is one way to put it I guess 🙄 lol

And just to clarify, a company that makes tools has a good warranty when you are not allowed to use the tool? And thats ok? If your cars warranty stated that they would warranty the car only until you drove it off the lot, would you be cool with that?

What would it take for you to admit a problem? Lol If Bill Howard pissed in your morning bowl of cheerios would that constitute an issue, or just GEC thoughtfully filling up your bowl to serve breakfast? Lol 🙄🤣 All joking aside though, you are really stretching to make excuses here.
 
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CVamberbonehead said:
Filing on your knife voids the crap warranty. Also cant be returned because you used it to find out the sharp edges hurt. Lol

Splintering into your thumb = "Variable characteristics" of the bone? That is one way to put it I guess 🙄 lol
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If the knife makes oweee, return it.
CVamberbonehead said:
And just to clarify, a company that makes tools has a good warranty when you are not allowed to use the tool? And thats ok? If your cars warranty stated that they would warranty the car only until you drove it off the lot, would you be cool with that?
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GEC states their warranty clearly. I am sorry you don't like it, but I don't see it as an issue. They will take care of defects, but do not service used knives.

As it's their business, and how they choose to run it, a consumer has two options. Buy it, or don't.
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What would it take for you to admit a problem? Lol If Bill Howard pissed in your morning bowl of cheerios would that constitute an issue, or just GEC thoughtfully filling up your bowl to serve breakfast? Lol 🙄🤣 All joking aside though, you are really stretching to make excuses here.
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I see no problem to admit. Sorry.

From my perspective, you are the one stretching to find a problem where there isn't one.
 
CVamberbonehead CVamberbonehead I have re-read your initial post seeing you talking about warranty. Maybe I missed something in the thread, so could you please clarify: you tried to send for warranty repair directly to GEC the said Remington with bone splinter (crack, because piece of bone obviously cracked away from the handle and stabbed you) and GEC refused, correct?
 
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CVamberbonehead CVamberbonehead It's good you've brought all this up...Uncritical worship of anything is imbecilic and toxic. GEC has made a huge variety of patterns and there's something in there for every knife connoisseur but they are not totems as some may like to think. The 'evolution' of GEC has lead to them becoming an object of desire &profit, no fault of the company and certainly not to the enrichment of the owners or workers. Internet fuelled 'trends' FOMA, greed etc may have all inflated prices due to people being prepared to pay huge sums second-hand, plus feral behaviours...

However, GEC remains an excellent manufacturer of Traditional American pocket-knives, they still stir the imagination by giving us something to look forward to and that is itself an important quality.

Two points of correction: Mona Lisa is in no way overrated the genius of Leonardo continues over several centuries :cool: and the analogy of Bone splinters and Rugburns is inaccurate, at least you get something out of Rugburns...I at least prefer that to splinters in the fingers😻 masochists will of course think otherwise.

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Alex.Y. said:
CVamberbonehead CVamberbonehead I have re-read your initial post seeing you talking about warranty. Maybe I missed something in the thread, so could you please clarify: you tried to send for warranty repair directly to GEC the said Remington with bone splinter (crack, because piece of bone obviously cracked away from the handle and stabbed you) and GEC refused, correct?
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No, it was just a little splinter that came off. It isnt worth returning. The knife is fine, I actually still like it. Lol
It isnt really noticeable in the looks department and it didnt crack through or anything, so it really isnt worth returning. It just sucked a little bit.
 
CVamberbonehead said:
It just sucked a little bit.
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Indeed.
CVamberbonehead said:
No, it was just a little splinter that came off. It isnt worth returning.
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Then why to bash the warranty which you haven't used actually...
CVamberbonehead said:
Baby bullet prospector from the exchange here. The seller was great, not their fault.
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Wow... You know, maybe seller actually dropped it or something. Anyway, they most likely were aware of that and selling it exactly because of the issue. I don't know them though, just a guess.
 
Alex.Y. said:
Yeah, could you actually post a picture of it, particularly of the spot where the splinter came off?
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Honestly theres not much to see. It looks like the rest of the handle does basically. It was just a little splinter that came off and stuck me. It isnt noticeable, it just pissed me off and made me think about how if I did have a problem that needed warranty work I would be screwed. Lol
 
CVamberbonehead said:
Honestly theres not much to see. It looks like the rest of the handle does basically. It was just a little splinter that came off and stuck me. It isnt noticeable, it just pissed me off and made me think about how if I did have a problem that needed warranty work I would be screwed. Lol
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That's really unlucky, man. Funny thing is, the Prospector was my first GEC with bone handle (I actually bought it partially because of the nice bone) and I absolutely liked mine, it's so far the best jigged bone I've seen on a knife.
 
Alex.Y. said:
Wow... You know, maybe seller actually dropped it or something. Anyway, they most likely were aware of that and selling it exactly because of the issue. I don't know them though, just a guess.
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I can assure you that I did not drop it or knowingly sell a defective knife. Actually the opposite. I reached out immediately after finding out after reading his post. I personally didn't have a problem with it. Although I only carried it twice hence why I sold it.
 
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