Going from folders to fixed; locking to slipjoints

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I've always been a fixed blade lover; not having to worry about opening a knife is reassuring to me as I like simplicity. Especially for a knife with a kydex sheath; because of that "click" like you mentioned Comeuppance. :thumbup::cool::D

That said; folders are fun as well and as Stabman mentioned many modern locking folders are quite robust so durability is less of an issue...


I carry a small fixed blade every day, supplemented by a folder, and sometimes a second, smaller folder because I can and want to. :thumbup::cool:
 
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pinnah said:
You should read up a bit. Some knives are more deadly than others and are banned in many locales for that reason.

And legal or not, John Q. Public isn't daft and generally has the intelligence of at least that of a frog and is able to undertand that a fixed blade knife is more capable for stabbing cuts than a folder (locking or otherwise).



Because in this size range, there is nothing, repeat nothing that a fixed blade can do that a folder can't do just as well. Take away sporting uses (hunting, camping) and job site uses (carpentry, agriculture) what possible NEED is there to carry a fixed blade in this size range other than a folder?

John Q. Public has every reason and right to be more suspicious of a person wielding a fixed blade with a 3" blade than a folder with a 3" blade because they know just like everybody on this forum knows that a) the fixed blade is a more capable stabbing weapon and b) there's no utility need for everyday life that demands the need of the fixed blade. Their rational conclusion is that the person is carrying the fixed blade for martial purposes, or least posturing of that.


You're either delusional or willfully turning a blind eye to how people around you react. For the things you describe, you have no need for a fixed blade other than the secret thrill of playing the role of social provocateur.

That's pretty clear.

When I know that I don't know, I try to refrain from telling people what they should or shouldn't do.

Please visit Boston. Or New York. Please wear your fixed blade and report back on how it goes.
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Wow; just wow...
 
I could respect your position a lot more if a) you refrained from telling me what I should do and b) were more honest in just coming right out and saying that EDC a fixed blade because it's your legal right and you don't much care about the social friction it causes. Then we could just agree that we appoach getting along with others differently.

But beyond not knowing what our local laws are and telling me what to do, now you're simply making up nonsense.

Tachead7075 said:
Carrying a fixed blade vs a folder is a personal choice and both can be carried discreetly if you want to. Neither is more dangerous or lethal then the other no matter what certain locations laws say or how certain people feel about them. Both can be used as tools for utility purposes and both can be used as weapons. Many other things can be used as tools or as weapons as well but, unfortunately knives are more likely to be seen as weapons then some other things due to Hollywood, the media, history, and various other factors.
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Given similar carrying options, fixed blades are more effective weapons for 2 reasons. First, they can be deployed more quickly and reliably. Second, they are better a stabbing since there is no risk of the blade closing. That this is true is instantly obvious when you consider the primary features of tactical folders; namely fast, reliable blade deployment and a strong lock that stays open even when struck. That is, tactical folders aspire to be as close to a fixed blade because a fixed blade is tactically better. Every student of knife design knows this and John Q Public knows this.

As for the lame "a knife is a tool and other things can be used as a weapon" argument, please refer to the FBI crime statistics readily available on the web and you'll see that knives are used in a high proportion of murders and violent crimes.

You might reconsider just making things up when your communicating via a medium that is also the most efficient and expansive information research library ever known. And John Q Public understands this too. He doesn't buy the "a knife isn't a weapon" schtick either because he's capable of looking up the same stats.

So, you, me and John Q Public are in Starbucks with our morning bagel and cream cheese. John uses the plastic joke they gave him and it breaks. I pull out a large Sodbuster that is silent and looks like a table knife and is obviously a pocket knife. And then you pull out a fixed blade.

John and I both just suspicious of you. There's just no need for a fixed blade in Starbucks is there?
 
pinnah said:
John and I both just suspicious of you. There's just no need for a fixed blade in Starbucks is there?
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I don't see what you're reading that suggest that someone carrying a fixed blade is going to use it butter bagels in a restaurant. I wouldn't get cream cheese in my Sodbuster, either. The plastic ones are hygienic and free.

The John Q. stuff is ridiculous. I have a "fixed blade" that has a 3/4" blade and is illegal here in Seattle to carry. But a big tactical folder is perfectly fine. Laws do not always represent reality.

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There are three attitudes about fixed blades for everyday urban carry; (1) If it's legal, I will do what I want to and don't care what anyone else thinks; (2) Carry a small fixed blade discreetly (noticed I spelled it right Henry Higgins :D ) and use it only when you sense no likely unusual reactions by others; you probably have a folder too; (3) You don't carry one at all because a folder works just as well for everything you are likely to use a knife for and they are easier to conceal. I am mostly in the #3 camp, but occasionally I do carry a small fixed blade that nobody even notices.
 
There's no way to discretely carry a fixed blade in my state... without breaking a law.
 
So CA has a law against concealed knife carry? Does it apply to folders? As Henry Higgins says.... it's DISCREETLY not discretely. I really got a chuckle out of that one.

CM, I know your dominant priority is self defense. I suspect you have life experiences that make you feel it's necessary. I haven't other than fights in grade school. You may also know stuff we don't in terms of need.
 
I can conceal this...



Not this...



Same blade length.

And the folder can be employed just as quickly as the fixed.

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The level of ignorance is through the freaking roof. Wow.

The generalities you are throwing around are ABSURD.

Ignore list, anti knife dude on a KNIFE forum :rolleyes:

Yea I know, everyone's seen your opinel and slip joints. They don't change anything about the ignorance you displayed in this thread. Appalling to say the least.
pinnah said:
You should read up a bit. Some knives are more deadly than others and are banned in many locales for that reason.

And legal or not, John Q. Public isn't daft and generally has the intelligence of at least that of a frog and is able to undertand that a fixed blade knife is more capable for stabbing cuts than a folder (locking or otherwise).



Because in this size range, there is nothing, repeat nothing that a fixed blade can do that a folder can't do just as well. Take away sporting uses (hunting, camping) and job site uses (carpentry, agriculture) what possible NEED is there to carry a fixed blade in this size range other than a folder?

John Q. Public has every reason and right to be more suspicious of a person wielding a fixed blade with a 3" blade than a folder with a 3" blade because they know just like everybody on this forum knows that a) the fixed blade is a more capable stabbing weapon and b) there's no utility need for everyday life that demands the need of the fixed blade. Their rational conclusion is that the person is carrying the fixed blade for martial purposes, or least posturing of that.



You're either delusional or willfully turning a blind eye to how people around you react. For the things you describe, you have no need for a fixed blade other than the secret thrill of playing the role of social provocateur.



That's pretty clear.

When I know that I don't know, I try to refrain from telling people what they should or shouldn't do.

Please visit Boston. Or New York. Please wear your fixed blade and report back on how it goes.
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As someone who also carries a fixed blade, rock on CM. Follow your state laws and live your life free of the ignorant nasty opinions of others. After all opinions are like... Well you know exactly what they are like.
Charlie Mike said:
There's no way to discretely carry a fixed blade in my state... without breaking a law.
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Charlie Mike said:
There's no way to discretely carry a fixed blade in my state... without breaking a law.
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Stupid laws! All are in favor of the criminals! So they know that a honest/good citizen is not armed and they can do what they want ?? If someone have bad intentions to do he will wear a hidden knife and will use it in an honest unarmed citizen ?? What if I buy a pack of large screwdriver and together with an account for them I wear them in my pocket ?? Is it legal ?
 
Keep in mind too that a lot of places have separate concealed weapons laws. So even if it is legal to conceal a folder or any other knife, as soon as it is considered a weapon, you will be charged with concealing a weapon. So, if an over zealous LEO decides he doesnt like you and deems your pocket knife a weapon you are in big trouble and will have to prove in court it isnt a weapon. So, that's one advantage to at least somewhat openly carry your EDC tool whether it is a fixed blade or a folder. That's why I said earlier that concealing your EDC just to make another random person feel more comfortable might not always be in your best interests.
 
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Unfortunately fools don't understand or grasp the concept that ANY and EVERY thing can be used as weapons.

Another thing they are completely ignorant of is criminals don't give a damn what the law says. Only law abiding citizens follow the law. Rocket science, I know.
Natlek said:
Stupid laws! All are in favor of the criminals! So they know that a honest/good citizen is not armed and they can do what they want ?? If someone have bad intentions to do he will wear a hidden knife and will use it in an honest unarmed citizen ?? What if I buy a pack of large screwdriver and together with an account for them I wear them in my pocket ?? Is it legal ?
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