Grail is an over used term.

somber said:
I would say that she has a grasp on a realm of knives you couldn't even imagine, therefore her opinion on this matter is founded in more fact than not.
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Can't...stop...laughing...

Please edify me as to which part of her post is founded in fact.
 
mogmz said:
Or maybe you can't imagine the grasp that Razor has on the grasp of TKCs grasp.
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:thumbup: made me laugh.

Maybe in terms of a Holy Grail their can only be one or is something unattainable to everyone, except Harrison Ford. But grail is a tricky term, if I have a "grail knife" you better believe I will work to attain it. So I am not sure if we can even use the term grail, which is kind of the idea TKC had but I dont think you can define what grail should be. Its different to everyone. I dont see why a grail couldnt change, if I know of a knife that is unattainable to me right now I will work to attain it. And when I do, it and I will change. If you dont fet your grail then what are you accomplishing in life? What are we talking about again? Too much damn ethics class.
 
spoonrobot said:
Can't...stop...laughing...

Please edify me as to which part of her post is founded in fact.
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Have you seen her collection? She's had more experience than any knives that I've held and probably a large percentage of you folks. She makes a great point, to deem a regular CRK Sebenza as a grail knife does seem asinine. Apply the term to any knife you want, but it's grossly overused when it's the knife you want that week. I'd be like me saying that a Suunto is my 'grail watch'. It's a watch that I aspire to own, yeah, but in no way is it a 'grail item'.

When you're waiting years to finish production time on a piece, it's different than when you just have the cash for it, buy it, and it's in your hand in a week - that doesn't seem like a 'grail item' - the end all be all of your collection.

Two, I didn't say her post was fact, I said it was founded in more fact than not. At the end of the day it is an expression of opinion, but it's not just pulled out of the sky, she's had plenty of experience with items that are on your grail list, let alone mine, so there is more 'fact' behind it than not.
 
Absolutely tremendous work.

If I write my posts in green font will you rationalize all my poorly expressed opinions with hackneyed exposition and short-sighted assumptions?
 
TKC is good people, and a well respected member of this forum. I find the word mint thrown around way too much as well. I have even seen superfluous phrases such as, "If you buff out the scuff marks on the bolster, it will be mint condition!" Well..........
No, that does not make it mint! A 10 or 20 yr. old knife would only be mint if it never was touched by human hands, and that is never the case for knvies, so I get what TKC is saying in regards to grail knife.

I believe we tend to want to celebrate when we acquire a knife we really wanted, as a grail knife. I am guilty of that.
 
but i disagree, personally mine is an original turn of the century elephant toenail, a production knife (rather knives since there are a few!)... since they are so rare and fetch insane prices thats my grail knife, the chances of me ever finding one let alone buying one are slim to none...
The term is subjective, Maybe a little dramatic, a little silly but ive used the term in regards to my own needs and wants rather than some implied expert knowledge term like "mint" etc.
regards
gene
 
somber said:
Two, I didn't say her post was fact, I said it was founded in more fact than not. At the end of the day it is an expression of opinion, but it's not just pulled out of the sky, she's had plenty of experience with items that are on your grail list, let alone mine, so there is more 'fact' behind it than not.
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Her post is founded in her preference for custom knives. There are production knives harder to get than many customs.

I would say the term 'custom' is used about as accurately as the term 'grail' for knives anyway.
 
I have an affinity for most knives so "grail" really doesn't apply to anything that I seek currently. However, if we are going to add terms that are throw around too much..I think that "grail" is one, "Mint" is another...last but not least,..."tactical" If I had a nickel for every time I have seen that particular term, I would be rich.. :D
 
My grail knife is a minty custom tactical knife designed by Lynn Thompson and built like a Sebenza with the steel used in a Busse, and will be used to dispatch zombies and will be the Only knife I have on a deserted island.

Seriously, though, I have yet to completely imagine my grail knife. There are ideas and materials that continue to change and evolve. The general idea has been conceived, but I'm still searching... As I change, so do my dreams. I don't think one can truly find ones grail knife if he (or she) continues to grow as a person. In essence, one's grail knife is unattainable.
 
somber said:
Have you seen her collection? She's had more experience than any knives that I've held and probably a large percentage of you folks. She makes a great point, to deem a regular CRK Sebenza as a grail knife does seem asinine. Apply the term to any knife you want, but it's grossly overused when it's the knife you want that week. I'd be like me saying that a Suunto is my 'grail watch'. It's a watch that I aspire to own, yeah, but in no way is it a 'grail item'.

When you're waiting years to finish production time on a piece, it's different than when you just have the cash for it, buy it, and it's in your hand in a week - that doesn't seem like a 'grail item' - the end all be all of your collection.

Two, I didn't say her post was fact, I said it was founded in more fact than not. At the end of the day it is an expression of opinion, but it's not just pulled out of the sky, she's had plenty of experience with items that are on your grail list, let alone mine, so there is more 'fact' behind it than not.
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Considering she has a ton of customs, I wouldnt consider those grail knives to her. She has the resources to get them easily, much like production knives to me. A grail is a knife that you can not get, but desire to one day enjoy. It is about the want of the blade, not actually having it.
 
T.K.C. said:
My personal definition of a "Grail" knife, is generally one that is hard to get; either because a few were made etc., and is generally NOT a PRODUCTION knife. I just feel the term is way, way over used.
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I agree that it is an overused term. However, most of the knife buyers out there are buying production knives. A production knife might be their grail.

Maybe a lot of people out there just latched on to the term, and aren't familiar with the Arthurian quest :D.

Another fan of Suz...
 
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It's a personal thing.
"The search for the cup of Christ is the search for the divine in all of us.":cool:
To think that you can impose an over-riding definition on it for others is completely missing the point.
It also sounds a tad smug (and I should know, smug bastard that I am:)).
 
I think calling anything a "grail" object is retarded.


As if getting a knife is some sort of life changing event.
 
Well I'm not too likely to call anything a Grail, but at least it's shorter than "A knife I've been wanting to get really, really, really badly, and for the longest time - at least since, what, last month?" :D
 
This is my "grail" knife. There is only one, and it is in the Sheffield Cutler's Museum.
AKA "The Norfolk Knife".

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