Harrassed about your EDC knives?

Originally posted by the45guy
Ankerson :


Why do people think Ex Military people are to be leery of ?
Hell as soon as I find someone in the office is Ex Military I try to get to know them , I know if the chips get down they can be counted on.

thanks to all the military...present ..past and future !:)
Click to expand...

the45guy,

I think it is misconception most of the time, people think that all Marines are crazy because they don't understand.

And women hear stories about wife beaters (girlfriend) and it stickes in their mind forever.:rolleyes:
 
My Dear Sir,

If you took a single step onto the streets of Great Britain, armed to the teeth like that, you'd be arrested on the spot, and probably taken to the nearest looney bin!!

What do you do for a living anyway??

A single folder, of good quality, and perhaps a multi tool are reasonable. Carry a fixed blade openly into a bank, and expect to be welcomed?? C'mon, who are you trying to kid!!

I know the name of a good lawyer....

Regards,

Doug:rolleyes:
 
Savantuk, America is a very diverse place. There are some places where fixed blade carry is common. There are some places where all the real men carry pliers, or multi-tools. In American, in some places you can carry concealed handguns, large ones, just cause you want to. However, also in America, there are places where only a 3" or smaller slipjoint is allowed...and a gun will get you a hard 2 years in prison.

Some Americans believe that it is an individual right to be left alone, even if you're wearing a Bowie knife. It's the hostile action, not the attached blade that is dangerous. More Americans are killed with kitchen knives picked up off the counter than with any fixed blade in a bank.

I carry a single blade, fixed or folding. My knives can be illegal or legal depending upon what city or town I'm in. However, it's also my right and duty as an American to break and help change the laws that are unfair. I also will accept any legal consequences if I get pinched. America was founded on the principle that an individual has a natural right to change and fight legal restrictions that are against nature. That's why we're no longer a colony and proud of it.
 
Hello Brown shoe,

Quite an emphatic reply!

I don't remember anywher in my post, suggesting that the knife carriage law in America was wrong, nor did I say that a person wasn't entitled to carry whaever he wanted. What I did say IN COMMON WITH MANY OTHER contributors to this thread, was that I thought it a bit odd to want to carry so many knives, and that it was a bit daft to openly carry quite a large fixed blade, openly into a bank, and expect nobody to object!!

In any case, I thought that the avatar attached to my signature would have made it quite plain, that this was all tongue in cheek, and that I was taking the mickey.

So, why are you picking on me? Why the reference to the war of independence? Do you dislike the English? If so, why?

For your further elucuidation, I can carry as many damned knives as I want to in the UK, in a bandolier around my chest if I wanted too. I live in a Democracy, if our laws are somewhat restrictive, then I have to live with it. Sure I bitch about them at times, but that's normal. Gun Carriage laws are not an issue here. Why bring them up?

Rule Britannia!! - The home and cradle of democracy.

You Americans can ALWAYS rely on us to be TRUE friends, no matter what has happened in the past. And we're proud of that too!


Regards,

Doug.
 
I agree with Savantuk and others on this.

To carry so much metal (7 items ?) into a bank of all places is surely asking for trouble, even if there is no malicious intent whatsoever and the holder is as pure as the driven snow.

In this particular circumstance, I believe any security guard was doing his job if he questioned anyone with so many tools/blades on his/her person. Afterall, it is better to err towards caution rather than suffer the possible consequences.

More importantly, once you step on THEIR property, you are on THEIR terms !
 
I've had people try to give me flak around the office over my Large Sebenza, mostly asking why I would need such a big knife. I usually use the opportunity to explain the different things that I use it for, and it's interesting that when I talk about food preparation people warm up to the idea as something familiar.

Some times people question whether it is legal for me to carry a knife of this size. I take that opportunity to give them a quick lesson in "Texas Knife Law 101". Most are amazed when they find out just how large of a knife is legal to carry here.
 
In my expiriense, most of people got only interested, when they see my Endura. At first they ask lots of questions like "what for" and "why is it jagged", but after a first experience of cutting a cake, they just get into it. And in my Institute I am not alone carring an "unpacific" folder. The second was our criminal law tutor (btw an ex-KGB agent).
 
quote:
Originally posted by the45guy
Ankerson :
Why do people think Ex Military people are to be leery of ?
Hell as soon as I find someone in the office is Ex Military I try to get to know them , I know if the chips get down they can be counted on.

thanks to all the military...present ..past and future !
the45guy,

I think it is misconception most of the time, people think that all Marines are crazy because they don't understand.
Click to expand...

Aw c'mon... Some Marines understand and are still crazy! :eek:

I usually have a custom buck 110 on my belt, and 2-3 other knives in my pockets that no one sees unless I need to cut something (A Spydie native, a slipjoint, whatever) People around here are used to the 110.

It helps that I'm a 48 YO Quaker pacifist, I guess. People who know me aren't too frightened!
 
I think it has alot to with how the blade is presented.
If it is whipped out and flicked with a loud snap it tends to draw negative attention.....however I can casually draw my Large Seb , open it slowly and cut something then put it away without drawing the "Look" from the sheeple most of the time.
Of course there are those that will never look at a blade as a tool only a weapon. Those people will never change and I wont try to change their minds about knives . I know the people I work around , the ones that don't like knives never see mine.

When a co worker did ask " why do you need a knife ? what good does it do ?"............to that I asked " Why do you own a cat ? What good does it do ? Sure aint for protection !":D

I carry a blade ( sometimes 2 ) and a 45 most of the time , though not everyone that I know is aware of my carry habits.
I prefer to keep an element of surprise.
 
I go to a liberal, east-coast college, so a spyderco toad is my EDC. if anyone gets freaked-out about THAT I just file them away in my too-stupid-to-care file. Even my friend's girlfriend complains about his endura EDC, even though she knows he isn't going to cut anyone or whatever. YEESH!

Nathan
 
Well, I've thought about this for a few days.

First, I don't believe the guard was "harrassing" you about your knives. Harrassment as defined by dictionary.com is to "trouble persistently or incessantly."

The guard only asked you once.

Perhaps he should have asked you nicely, by saying something more along the lines of "Sir, would you mind leaving that knife in the car?" He was definitely rude, and could probably use some training in dealing with customers.

IMHO, the bank guard was within his rights to ask you to not bring what he percieved as a threat into his bank.

Private property owners should have the right to ask people to leave as they see fit, within reason. The guard was doing his job. It's not like he tackled you, or even called the police. He just asked you not to bring a perceived "weapon" into his domain.

You were carrying the knives in a legal manner, true. It's also legal to wear a ski mask in July. But, try and wear a ski mask in July into a bank, and I would be suprised if the guard doesn't A)Call the police, B)Pull a weapon on you, and C)Restrain you until law enforcement arrives.

I don't see anything wrong with carrying as many knives as you see fit. One or One hundred, it doesn't really matter. You only have two hands.

But, if your carrying those knives openly, don't be suprised if private businesses (especially ones that get robbed alot) act a bit on the touchy side.

Just my $.02

-- Rob
 
if i'm going to open a one handed folder in front of "unknowns",i open and close two handed,also if i have the blade cliped to my wasteband or pocket and am going into a sensetive local i slip it in the wasteband on my boxers and have found that multi tools are more excepted in most situations.
i only carry a fb in the hills and then inside my sack but am thinking of getting a horizontal carry sheath.
good thread
cheers
 
Originally posted by knifedaddy84
Have colleges been banning knives? You don't hear much about that, only high schools.
Click to expand...


They don't ban knives here, it's just that the student body is more sensitive. I'm originally from phoenix, and people there are a lot mor blase about a knife, here anything but a small SAK is "wierd"

Nate
 
Originally posted by knifedaddy84
Have colleges been banning knives? You don't hear much about that, only high schools.
Click to expand...

In CA, fixed blade knives over 2.5 inches are illegal on college campuses, but there is no limit on folders.
 
Originally posted by baraqyal
<snip>
Just my $.02
-- Rob
Click to expand...

I understand what you mean. My biggest complaint was his arguement. If he would have told me that he felt threatened by the knife rather than say that I "can't have a knife that big" I don't think I would have had as much of a problem.
 
Went to work today for a meeting in my everyday cloths and a Mouse clipped to my pocket. The charge nurse gave me an envelope and I proceded to open it with my Mouse. When I looked up, the unit secretary's eyes were huge and she asked the dreaded question..."Why you carry such a BIG knife?" I almost fell over laughing as I explained to her that the Mouse was one of the smallest ones I have! What the hell is the matter with people?
Matt
 
In Maryland, knives are prohibited on public college campuses. I'm glad that I'm at a private school, and their currently published weapons policy pertains only to firearms and pellet guns.

I found an online draft, though, of a proposed amendment to the weapons policy, in which knives and other weapons would also be prohibited. Since it was dated 1997 and the current weapons policy hasn't changed, I'll assume that it was thrown out for some reason.
 
Originally posted by im2smrt4u
My biggest complaint was his arguement. If he would have told me that he felt threatened by the knife rather than say that I "can't have a knife that big" I don't think I would have had as much of a problem.
Click to expand...
Isn't it implied that he felt that the bank's security was threatened when he tells you that you "can't have a knife that big"??? That's the only logical conclusion I can come to. Why else would he say that?
 
Sorry Savantuk if I came out of the starting blocks fast. Your first sentence indicates that the type of carry discussed in this thread is illegal in England and would be viewed as insane. In America you have a right to be publicly insane, even in a bank, as long as you bring no harm to yourself or others.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top