Harrassed about your EDC knives?

Originally posted by PaP
I don't mean this sarcastic, I just don't see how you guys carry so much in your pockets and on your belt. Iusually have a Kumber Ulta Carry in an IWB, a small knife such as my MT M-UDT, my wallet, my cellphone, and assorted change. That's about all I can stand. I love my knives and my handguns and have way too many of each, I just can't carry them all at one time.
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I'm running a little light today, because I'm trying to cut down. however, here is the way I'm outfitted today:

  • -SOG Night Vision on belt left of centerline, in a Microtech sheath
    -SAK Executive left front pocket with a Photon Microlight
    -Surefire E2e clipped to my left front pocket
    -BM720 clipped to my right front pocket
    -BM705 deep in my right front pocket (not clipped)

On any other given day, I would have a BM735 clipped IWB as well. And that doesn't include several other things in my pockets that really are of no interest in this discussion, plus pocket change (and lint. ;) ). It really isn't that hard to find yourself carrying quite a few gadgets.

Oh, back to the topic at hand.... I didn't even notice you mentioning the fixed blade Buck to start with. I was incredulous at all the multitools. ;) But that's just me..... I really don't have much reason to carry a fixed blade unless I'm going hiking/camping/backpacking, and then it is usually a rather largish knife. Other than that, although I have a lot of fixed blades, I just don't find myself carrying them that much. With my Benchmades and my SOG (all axis/arc locks), there really just isn't much reason.
 
Originally posted by rockspyder
Oh, back to the topic at hand.... I didn't even notice you mentioning the fixed blade Buck to start with. I was incredulous at all the multitools. ;) But that's just me..... I really don't have much reason to carry a fixed blade unless I'm going hiking/camping/backpacking, and then it is usually a rather largish knife. Other than that, although I have a lot of fixed blades, I just don't find myself carrying them that much. With my Benchmades and my SOG (all axis/arc locks), there really just isn't much reason.
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True. I like your idea of having a folder IWB. Maybe I should do that instead...
 
I believe if you used common sense and were discreet it would go along way to avoiding future issues that you might have. ;)

I for one don't like people questioning what and why I carry what I do. And I don't advertise what I have either, I keep it concealed so nobody knows it's there. I know it's there and that is all that matters.

Just a thought..:)
 
I have to admit, I'm pretty lucky when it comes to my EDC's, I'm a mechanic, and a knife is part of my tools,(isn't that what a knife is supposed to be?). The best part, is that I work for the Goverment, and I get to go into the Gov. Buildings, including the Courthouse and, Police Station, past the metal detectors, and no weapons signs.:D :cool: :) :p
 
Savantuk
Don't take this post as a lash at you or anything, I'm just stating some points.

1) "armed to the teeth"....He was not armed to the teeth, he was loaded down with tools which, require a criminal to make them become weapons. I DO agree, however, that the buck/strider should be at least questioned if not left in the car. And multiple multi-tools is well...redundant.

2) You posted a second time saying that all of that post was tongue in cheek. I, for one, did not know that until you said it was a sarcastic gest...I truly believed that you were totally pissed at this guy. This belief was confirmed when you ended the post with a :rolleyes: smilie. If you wanted it to be tongue-in-cheek, you should have either implied that with a simple statement that it was, or used any one of these :D ;) :p :footinmou smilies...Right?

Best regards,
Steve
 
at least you guys can carry knives ! i risk 6 months jail, or a huge fine (6000 dollars last time i remembered, thats 6 good custom knives) if im caught with a knife.

plus it would get confiscated, that would really be annoying

so yea, i dont carry a knife thanks to the new laws

i live in australia. it seems they want to ban everything. now they plan on banning a number of pistols (most of which seem to have self defense in mind). whats wrong with wanting a gun for self defense ? the police have them for self defense..........

Daniel
 
I can't believe that you folks in the Land Down Under, the land of Crocodile Dundee and the Croc Hunter, would kneel to your masters and forfeit your guns and knives. Do something about it! I thought Australia was a wild place of adventure where a knife was standard issue. Oh, well, saves me a 15 hour trip. Looks like Alaska is the last and only hope:mad: for a hassle free adventure getaway....for Americans at least....
 
Don't give up on the land of OZ knifedaddy. Still plenty of knives and guns out in the bush. avpshadowman is only talking about Melbourne, the second biggest city with the countries most repressive knife laws.
 
Originally posted by Ming65
Don't give up on the land of OZ knifedaddy. Still plenty of knives and guns out in the bush. avpshadowman is only talking about Melbourne, the second biggest city with the countries most repressive knife laws.
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I'd move then!
 
Originally posted by Ming65
Don't give up on the land of OZ knifedaddy. Still plenty of knives and guns out in the bush. avpshadowman is only talking about Melbourne, the second biggest city with the countries most repressive knife laws.
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OK, I'll keep you on my travel wish list. As I understand Australia is a big country, can't imagine the gov't rounding up all those blades.
Why doesn't that croc hunter carry a knife, anyway?
Crikey, me arm!:)
 
I've never been harrassed by anyone about any of the knives I carry and I work from office, to clinet, to field project settings and back again. I have been asked about what, why, how much. I always consider any question about a knife I have to be an opportunity to educate the person who's asked the question. If I'm going to "spread the gospel" of knife ownership then I'm obligated to know something about knives, their uses, construction, history, and the local laws. I want people to know that their grandparents, parents, and people all over the world carry knives as tools every day of their lives. I also want them to understand that a tool may become a weapon if used as one, but that applies to their car, the hammer in their toolbox, or the golfclub in their bosses Porshe. If they want to know why the knife is so "big" I point out that form follows function and that a sharpened prybar works better for crates than a dainty pocket knife, but the dainty pocket knife works better for opening letters and cutting loose thread and that something inbetween works better for other tasks.

On the other hand, you've got an attitude problem then expect attitude back and if you look like a Rambozo expect to be treated like a bozo.
 
Australia is the land of political correctness don't you know ? The old mythic Australia is long gone (from the cities that is).
The police do have a lot of powers to search anyone for knives. But you can carry them if you have a (legitimate) reason to. That reason cannot be self defense and there must be evidence on your person to support your reason.
I carry drawing pencils and say that I use the knife for sharpening them. That's enough to satisfy the letter of the law. (of course actually using the knife as a weapon is a different story)
Now I'm living in Japan where there is no problem about carrying knives though.
 
Only once... when I brought a Timberline Spec War to work and made mistake of showing one of my bosses, who I thought would appreciate it's workmanship. Bad mistake. He didn't and I got a bad rep, as well as a warning from then on for that. Kinda' funny because the guy looked like Grizzly Adams, had a trucker mouth, was an outdoors guy, and had no problem telling people what was on his mind. Later found out he had it out for me because I was going to be promoted in a new job. Oh well.

:rolleyes:
 
I got asked about my Wegner once or twice.

I admitted it was a large knife for what I wanted it to do around the office, but explained that I had paid a lot for it and wanted to get some use out of it. I also mentioned that it was a great deal compared to what it was retailing for around town, and that I could get them one if they liked. Told them about my Ebay shopping addiction. :D

I simply handed it to the person doing the questioning and explained that the scales were made out of an exotic material called G-10 which is just as tough as steel. Said that the blade was a special high-carbon stainless steel which was widely thought to be the best in the world. Also that it was a custom design by a man named Tim Wegner.

I watched as the fascination crept into their eyes and the fear went out. Usually was handed back to me with a simple, "Wow, nice knife...". Appreciation for well-made things is as universal as fear.

No one has taken me up on that offer yet, but I think one or two are thinking about it. Wait 'til I bring my SS dragonfly to work. My reasonability factor will go up twenty-fold, and I am pretty sure that at least 2 people will want one.

To sum up:

Are there any legal ramifications to lending someone a small (say 2-2.5") folder? If the person is over say 25 years old, I would expect that person to be reasonably adept at handling a knife, and I think a court would too? Besides I would show him how to use it safely.

If this is OK then:
I suggest that everyone of us buy a SMALL, well-made Spyderco or other brand and use it as a pass-around for non-knife people.

To influence others, one must must be reasonably adept at providing understanding. "None of your business." is a lot worse than "Here you go, would you like to use it for a week?"

What better way to spend thirty-five bucks or so?
 
No problem carrying in Japan? :confused:

What's the legal limit on length? I've always heard that you couldn't carry anything over 1.5 cm, unless it's packed away where it's hard to get at? (with the exception of cases where the person is camping/hunting/etc.)
 
I heard a good one the other day. I was in a local store and the guy behinde the counter was having trouble opening a box, so I handed him my Spyderco Rescue 93mm. Ya know, the un-intimidating blue handled, sheepsfoot blade? The guy says to his co-worker holy sh*t this guy just pulled a sword out of his pocket! What a dumb ass! Some people cease to amaze me.:barf:
 
Originally posted by knifedaddy84
Why doesn't that croc hunter carry a knife, anyway?
Crikey, me arm!:)
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The real croc hunters are two blokes in Broome, Malcolm Douglas and Peter Tucker. They both carry small FB's and Malcolm is quite partial to his LM Wave.

That other bloke is a bit of an embarrasment. Notice in the credits on his shows on snakes there is a credit for a snake wrangler ? Everything he handles has been milked of venom.

In reards to the level of freedom in Oz, im2smart4u has it right. Get out of the cities guys, there's heaps of freedom out here.
 
the thing in melbourne is that most the people they are trying to stop from carrying knives, are young asian males.

i can agree with that, those kids carry cheap knives and swords/machetes so they can kill each other. sending them to jail for carrying a knife with intent to use it wouldnt be a bad thing

but me being asian and in my late teens, well.............i dont think id do too well explaining to a police officer why im carrying around a little pocket knife. even though i generally see most knives (especially those i have) as tools.

though there would be no reason for me to be pulled over, so i guess its just peace of mind.

plus, if it came down to it, i doubt a knife would do much for me self defense wise anyway. unless it was against a dog.
 
Hmm - you might be right about Japan. The only information I could find is at
http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~la7m-ash/jutohou/jutohoue.html

I have lived here for 3 years and my friends and I all carry knives - this is asia after all. No-one has ever been troubled by the police however. The police seem to have enormous power to interpret the law as they want to - being polite, well dressed and respectful will get you a long way with the police her
 
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