Having trouble with jamesk007

I think I might have an idea what's going on here. The guy you're trading with lives in the U.K. This explains a lot to me really. Locking knives of any sort are illegal there. The knife could have been seized by customs and destroyed. If he tries to send your knife back to you, it's possible for the same thing to happen again. Locking knives + the U.K never ends well.
 
Heres the email i just recieved. Im hoping that this all ends well but it seems the me and the other member are in the same boat.


I'm so sorry
I've been to really busy and I'm only getting on the internet now
I have seen the post and I can understand why you feel this way
I'm trying my best to figure out what's going on
I've also been able to get to the post office and they have said that it they will call/email me when they are able to track it doWn
If they worst happens, I will he willing to shiP your para2 back, it's my own fault for losing the reciept

I hope you can understand

James
 
? I don't think Customs inspects out going packages.

If they had been siezed by Customs on the way out of the country the British citizen who shipped them would probably be in trouble.

This just sounds like a scam by a dishonest person.
 
I also did a trade with James. I asked him to ship first (his sage for my persian) it took around 3-4 weeks to get here IIRC and he communicated well with me. That said, the knife wasn't as described so I let him know and immediately RTS'd.
 
rockgolfer said:
Thanks Rev. I appologize for that. Phones are not the best for forum use sometimes.
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No worries friend, it was a bit tough to follow is all.

On another note, I'm happy to see that communication was made. Let's hope for a positive outcome for both parties. Thanks to all for keeping things civil. :thumbup:
 
hi guys,
i have to apologize for not replying but ive been really busy with work at the moment
anyway, heres the deal
i am going to talk to my neighbour (the post man) and see what is going on, (god forbid) if i cant get my knives back or to you then i accept that and i am willing to send your knives back
but i have 1 problem, veubent you sent me a email before the trade saying "i cannot be responsible if the the para2 gets stuck in customs or if it gets lost"
therefore i agreed, so you had to take the same responsiblitiy, if the para2 got lost you wouldnt have been responsible so how can i?

thanks for the wait, james
 
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No it does not help. The only reason i agreed to trading overseas is because YOU accepted resonsibility for the Para once they were shipped. I would never and absolutly did not in anyway agree to taking responsibilty for any lost package on either side.

The sender is responsible for the package they are sending. Bottom line. Unless in your case you agreed to take responsibily for my end once i shipped as part of our deal. I never told you anything that could even be thought of as me agreeing to take responsibilty for the dodo. Nor did you ever ask me to agree to any conditions as i did of you.

Its looking like ill never see the Dodo. I would like to end this mess and move on. I am publicly asking you send back my NIB Spyderco Para 2 in brown g10 and S35vn. Once again. To be clear. YOU are responsible for this package as well.
It is worth $135 to me. If you want to end this today you can send that via paypal GIFT.
 
jamesk007 said:
hi guys,
i have to apologize for not replying but ive been really busy with work at the moment
anyway, heres the deal
i am going to talk to my neighbour (the post man) and see what is going on, (god forbid) if i cant get my knives back or to you then i accept that and i am willing to send your knives back
but i have 1 problem, veubent you sent me a email before the trade saying "i cannot be responsible if the the para2 gets stuck in customs or if it gets lost"
therefore i agreed, so you had to take the same responsiblitiy, if the para2 got lost you wouldnt have been responsible so how can i?

thanks for the wait, james
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On a second thought. This pretty much explains what you had planned to me. Unfortunatly unless i agreed to be liable for the lost dodo ( did not and would never) Then you are responsible. This little BS game your trying to play tells me you never shipped a Dodo and thought ur "great idea" could get you a free knife. Please prove me wrong and mske things right with both of us.
 
jamesk007 said:
hi guys,
i have to apologize for not replying but ive been really busy with work at the moment
anyway, heres the deal
i am going to talk to my neighbour (the post man) and see what is going on, (god forbid) if i cant get my knives back or to you then i accept that and i am willing to send your knives back
but i have 1 problem, veubent you sent me a email before the trade saying "i cannot be responsible if the the para2 gets stuck in customs or if it gets lost"
therefore i agreed, so you had to take the same responsiblitiy, if the para2 got loshave been responsible so how can i?

thanks for the wait, james
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You say your knives. You have not responded to my asking for receipt from cutlery shoppe. Am I to assume you are saying that second orange para is mine?

Thanks
jeff
 
i am going to talk to my neighbour (the post man) and see what is going on
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? Why do 3rd parties not directly or personally involved in these transactions have any bearing on the transactions in question?

Take responsibility for your actions and make this right. It was you who entered into these transactions and it is you who is personally and directly responsible for making it right.


Man up as it were, do the right thing and take responsibility for your actions.
 
you told me that i had to agree that you could not be held responsible on your behalf
this applies to me aswell at that time,
i assumed that
i cannot do anything until tomorrow or tuesday until i see my neighbour
lets put it this way, if you got the dodo and there was no sign of the para2, you wouldnt have been responsible (which we agreed)
 
jamesk007 said:
you told me that i had to agree that you could not be held responsible on your behalf
this applies to me aswell at that time,
i assumed that
i cannot do anything until tomorrow or tuesday until i see my neighbour
lets put it this way, if you got the dodo and there was no sign of the para2, you wouldnt have been responsible (which we agreed)
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Listen James. I told you the only way id trade is if you took responsibility for your customs agency. If the Para was lost, stolen or seized i was not responsible. We clearly agreed upon that in multiple emails. Not one time did you mention that you wanted me to agree to any terms. I never expressed or implied anything that comes close to telling you that you are not responsible for the dodo. Like i said before, you are responsible for what you are shipping. Bottom line.

Stop trying to play games. I cant help what you " assumed" i was extreamly clear with what i wanted in the details of our trade and you agreed to them. Now is not the time to be adding measures to protect yourself. Send me the NIB Dodo ( if you have one) or my NIB s35vn para back.
 
jamesk007 said:
you told me that i had to agree that you could not be held responsible on your behalf
this applies to me aswell at that time,
i assumed that
i cannot do anything until tomorrow or tuesday until i see my neighbour
lets put it this way, if you got the dodo and there was no sign of the para2, you wouldnt have been responsible (which we agreed)
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Why would you assume anything? Unless you both agree to something there can be no assumption of anything.

Separately, what does your neighbor have to do with anything? Does he/she have any responsibility to either of these guys? Did these guys agree to trade with your neighbor or interact with your neighbor in any way?

Bottom line: you made a deal and its YOUR responsibility. Your neighbor is your problem; these guys deserve an answer and a solution.
 
Here m8,
The neighbour happens to be my post man and that's what we were talking about, I give him them to be shipped out
Btw I think I know where the receipts are, I'm going to look and if I find them I'll send you's pics of it
 
Have had several more back and forths. Here is what i sent last. Making my terms public. I am trying to be fair and civil about this.

And i agree with the others comment about owing the knife. Not a piece of paper. You have to prove you have done what you say. Giving away your responsability of shipping to your neighbor is your decision and now you have to live with it. This is looking like a costly learning experience on your end. At this point i would like to ask for my orange para back. If i where you i would pay whatever it costs to insure and track it to cover yourself. If at anypoint the millie shows up in the mail, if i still own the para i would of course honor our deal and send the para back to you. If i dont own the para I would send the millie back to you. I think that is a fair offer on resolving this issue.
 
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