Heat Treating Minus The Hype

[BMK]

Thank you for another well reasoned post. I agree with most of what you say. I suggest you go see your nearest mental health professional ASAP.

The process may be simple but the point still stands that it takes someone with knowledge to know which recipe to follow to make the knife perform the intended task. Knowing which steel to use and what hardness would achieve the best performance is where things get complicated.

Sure someone could perform the rote task of heat treating a knife without knowing anything about the process and end up with amazing knives if someone who knows how to get the most out of the steel gave the person the required instruction and recipe. That's where the knowledge of the knifemaker comes into play: knowing how to get the most out of each blade instead of just making a knife that's merely usable.

Aside from that crafting a beautiful knife is an art. That is definitely not easy by any stretch of the imagination.

 

[RyanW]

Well done! Finally...a well reasoned and rational reply - THANK YOU. Like most things in life, the heavy lifting was done by someone who came before us and we should all be grateful for their effort. I am not contending the point you make. Their heavy lifting makes what I and most of what all knife makers do relatively SIMPLE.

You disrespect those that have come before you and walk all over their hard earned work and research on a science that is still not completely understood... Hopefully you can evolve from the monkey that you are and stop using this forum as your place to fill that need for confrontation. Simple is as Simple does!

EDIT: ... "IGNORE BMK" first and only

 

[BMK]

Almost worthy of comment.

You disrespect those that have come before you and walk all over their hard earned work and research on a science that is still not completely understood... Hopefully you can evolve from the monkey that you are and stop using this forum as your place to fill that need for confrontation. Simple is as Simple does!

 

[Brian Ayres]

Barley cleaned up the surface. The hardness test was also done on the last part to enter the CANOLA OIL - the tang. Once I complete the convex bevel I will be 59-61.

I' suggest taking a few thousands more off of your test area. In fact, maybe take differing amounts off and test more than one area.
Hardness testing is dependent on getting past the decarb layer. If your set up is as follows, O1 tools steel, soak for xx minutes at temp, quench into canola, followed by 2 temper cycles, I'd venture to guess the reason Rick is questioning you hardness is because of decarb.....

 

[BMK]

I agree and after final grind I will get it tested. I would be very surprised if the Rockwell does not increase a point or two from 60.

I' suggest taking a few thousands more off of your test area. In fact, maybe take differing amounts off and test more than one area.
Hardness testing is dependent on getting past the decarb layer. If your set up is as follows, O1 tools steel, soak for xx minutes at temp, quench into canola, followed by 2 temper cycles, I'd venture to guess the reason Rick is questioning you hardness is because of decarb.....

 

[Stacy E. Apelt - Bladesmith]

Why are you all feeding the troll and then complaining about him?

Don't ask me to ban the man, you can ban him for yourself:
put him on Ignore and click on someone else's thread instead.

Esav has said it well.....
QUIT POSTING REPLIES...and the thread will roll off the page.

That said, I am locking this thread as it seems to have lived its useful life. \Move on folks, nothing more to see here.
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