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HEST/F initial impressions

Discussion in 'DPx Hostile Environment Survival Tools' started by intron, Feb 2, 2011.

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  1. fordfreak

    fordfreak Registered User

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    Jan 12, 2011
    I would say to coat a clip would be about $250 or so. The process is very expensive and uses a lot of power. It's pretty mind blowing. I still would rather go with ceramic coating since its waaaay cheaper and you can change colors easily. You can also do camo patterns, etc...
     
    Last edited: Feb 3, 2011
  2. jforbush

    jforbush

    Sep 29, 2007
    What coating was used on the blade????
     
  3. BFH44

    BFH44

    863
    Nov 3, 2010
    thanks for the info and pics - as i was reading all the comments about coating the clip was thinking about it

    and

    I bet if someone asked him that nutnfancy dude would dura coat it for you and sign it - then it would be double collectible - :rolleyes:
     
  4. fordfreak

    fordfreak Registered User

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    Jan 12, 2011
    jforbush- I'm not sure what coating it is. I haven't really looked into it since I'm not getting an LE. I caught on late about this knife. It looks to me to be Boron nitride maybe. Would be a good choice for a blade since things don't really stick well to it and it's pretty hard. It's used mostly in the mold business to keep injection materials from sticking. I don't know how hard it is compared to other coatings that don't have lubricity properties. RYP- was this coating sprayed on or Vapor'd?
     
  5. BFH44

    BFH44

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    Nov 3, 2010
    sorry that was a bad joke - i would erase it if i knew how
     
  6. jforbush

    jforbush

    Sep 29, 2007
    As far as Cerakote goes...I am an applicator of it and Duracoat. I might Cerakote my pocket clip and my liners black.

    I am on the side of Boron as well....it is not Cerakote, Duracoat or Hydro-dip. Does not look like DLC either.
     
  7. fordfreak

    fordfreak Registered User

    12
    Jan 12, 2011
    Duracoat is weaksauce. Just a fancy paint. :D
     
  8. jforbush

    jforbush

    Sep 29, 2007
    compared to Cerakote, Boron and DLC it is....it has its uses.
     
  9. billygoat78

    billygoat78 Gold Member Gold Member

    656
    Mar 24, 2009
    I just received my Limited Edition HEST folder. I was only able to enjoy it about 10 minutes before the pocket clip broke on me. Straight out of the box the clip was loose, not tight against or even touching the handle of the knife. I was considering taking the clip off to tighten it (as I do with most of my folders), but it broke before I even had a chance to. I must have caught my pants pocket funny or something, I've never had an issue like this before and I've been carrying folders for 20 years. I just went to pull it out once and the clip snapped right in half, I felt no give or anything, it must have been quite brittle.

    I sent an e-mail to customer service and will hopefully be taken care of, just a little disappointed that after all this waiting I can't really carry the knife now, after only pulling it from my pocket 5 times. I haven't even had a chance to cut anything.

    Besides the gap problem (mine is fairly significant, but it'd be hard to get anything under there to do much damage) and the clip, I guess I'm pleased so far. Feels solid.

    Just wanted to give everyone a head's up about the possibility of a very brittle pocket clip. Hopefully you won't have that problem, but watch out
     
  10. Ad Alta

    Ad Alta

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    Dec 18, 2010
    Could you post a pic so everyone can see what you are talking about?
     
  11. Jroden5446

    Jroden5446

    Dec 20, 2009

    seconded:thumbup:
     
  12. RYP

    RYP

    820
    Jul 11, 2009
    Th coating on the LE is vapor deposition for all the right reasons. The production model has MilSpec phosphate coating cuz its going to get bashed. The LE MR DP has two shots of coating to give that black on grey look.
     
  13. Maniacal Pete

    Maniacal Pete

    Oct 16, 2010
    Pics or it didn't happen!

    :)

    pete
     
  14. RYP

    RYP

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    Jul 11, 2009
    yeah lets see pics.
     
  15. billygoat78

    billygoat78 Gold Member Gold Member

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    Mar 24, 2009
    sad but true.
    and no, i did not do anything funny to it in the slightest

    [​IMG]
     
  16. billygoat78

    billygoat78 Gold Member Gold Member

    656
    Mar 24, 2009
    I'm cool with it, it's not the first clip that's broken on me (the others were because i was readjusting them too far and/or bad materials), i just need a new clip. :) I want to carry this bad boy
     
  17. RYP

    RYP

    820
    Jul 11, 2009
    Thanks. New one coming
     
  18. billygoat78

    billygoat78 Gold Member Gold Member

    656
    Mar 24, 2009
    And thanks to you. I have to say, despite some relatively minor issues, this is a pretty bad ass knife.

    I guess since this is the "initial impression" thread, I'll give you mine

    I for one, was initially worried about the lock being so directly behind the pivot pin, but with that thick metal frame, there's plenty of contact and surface area. When I heard about it "auto opening", "waving" out of your pocket, I got a little scared, I'm not much for that kind of thing. Pleasantly I find it does not unless I really, really want it to. With a normal pocket draw, i find no tendency to "wave" open. I like that. I thought it might be too big (I generally like them smaller), but it's actually a very pocket-friendly size. When i heard about the rotoblock spinning down on it's own under hard draw, i got a bit scared, not much for that either. Again, i find it pleasantly does not. with only a 1/3 of a turn i can engage it, but it doesn't try to spin on it's own in my experience. I was worried the cut-out for the locking side might have also been too deep, as the 551 appears to be. Seeing it now, there's lot's of material left, this should be a good, strong lock. So those were some possible pitfalls I saw, cleverly avoided. touche

    Don't know about some of you, but for me, this one was a bit of a rollercoaster ride.

    Sitting here with the knife, with a broken clip (thanks for the new one coming RYP :D) and a bit of a gap between the tip and handle when closed (it's a tad of an eyesore, but I don't feel it's at all a danger), i can't help but appreciate it. Sure, some of these things should have probably been corrected before the knife was "finalized," but stuff does happen, we all know that.

    Remember that knife you carried for 10 years, where you had to perhaps replace this or that, or it developed some strange quirk so that only you could operate it? these things build character in a knife. I think the idea of this folder started with character as well. if you cross your eyes really hard you can see that these minor mishaps the HEST is experiencing are your ticket to a knife with character before it even hits your doorstep. well, maybe the 2nd time it hits your doorstep :D

    all in all though, this knife is a great size, excellent fit and finish, feels great in any grip, has some neat and useful features, and is a tank for sure. I'm glad i rode the rollercoaster

    besides, how can you not love this:
    [​IMG]
     
  19. sdg

    sdg

    205
    Jun 14, 2010
    Not quite 10, but I've been carrying the same Emerson Commander for about 9 years. No quirks to speak of. It's in my pocket as I type. I was (still am) hoping the HEST/F would serve me just as well. I'm not a collector. In fact, I only own three knives. A Buck that I bought shortly after high-school, the Emerson Commander that my wife bought me years ago and an Izula I bought last year. I've always been happy with my selections and hope that I will continue to be.
     
    Last edited: Feb 4, 2011
  20. fordfreak

    fordfreak Registered User

    12
    Jan 12, 2011
    Where are you located? I'm in the orange county area. Send it!

    Shit... I'll do the clip and titanium handle black if you want free of charge. I'm itching to use this new ceramic I have and since I don't have mine yet I need a knife to coat! I'll post a progress thread. You can be the first coated HEST folder! haha :D
     
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