Hi all, am I the only one that only sees knives as tools?

Clinto. said:
Nahh.. Brotha.. You are not delusional. Everybody has an opinion on this forum. No one is right and no one is wrong. I find your opinion interesting coming from my "angle", but I totally get what you are saying.

You are on a knife nerd forum and most of us nerds are bat shit crazy about our knives. So crazy that we come to this forum quite frequently and "obsess" over knives.

Some guys will spend all day waxing their $60k pickup and others will never wash it, because its a truck and a tool.. If you went to a truck forum filled with truck nerds, they would be bat shit crazy too about waxing their prize possessions I bet.

But if we were all the same, this place would suck.. So keep your opinions coming! :thumbup:
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^^Like^^ Thanks

AJ
 
We all appreciate the tool in different ways and for different reasons. As far as my own preferences go I like my tools to be more fun to use than they are to unbox. I have a shovel that cost me more than $100 but it's a workhorse that earns its keep. :)
 
I've had a lot of guns over the last sixty years, but I've never been comfortable with scratches on a gun, except for a well-used old Win Model 12 "Black Diamond" Trap gun that I shot competition with for several years.
Knives are tools in the same way that guns are tools, but I appreciate the metal-working and craftsmanship that goes into either one.
I worked as a machinist, long time ago, and I loved to work metal with lathes and mills.
As somebody above has already said, IF I only saw knives as tools...why would I need the forum?
 
AJPeacock said:
Not at all. In fact You can't find any place above that I really cared. I just find it funny that others know more about my motivations than I do.

AJ
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You cared enough to post...

But do go on with what you think others should feel...I'm out..
 
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singularity35 said:
You cared enough to post...
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Are you 'trollin' me?

I don't care how you feel about knives. If you cuddle with them at night, I'm good with that. If you caress them at night and talk nice to them, put them on pedestals or ooh and aah about them with your friends. I really really don't care.

I did care enough to post and try to correct your misrepresentation of what I said., please show me anyplace above where I said anything about my way being the right or only way etc.

I learned a ton about blade steels and sharpening while reading the forum (before joining), thought I'd join and thank everyone for the great info, even tho I feel like knives are just tools.

AJ
 
AJPeacock said:
Are you 'trollin' me?

I don't care how you feel about knives. If you cuddle with them at night, I'm good with that. If you caress them at night and talk nice to them, put them on pedestals or ooh and aah about them with your friends. I really really don't care.

I did care enough to post and try to correct your misrepresentation of what I said., please show me anyplace above where I said anything about my way being the right or only way etc.

I learned a ton about blade steels and sharpening while reading the forum (before joining), thought I'd join and thank everyone for the great info, even tho I feel like knives are just tools.

AJ
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I actually never buy a knife I don't use or plan to(I have backups for knives I like). I just feel that nobody should be the sole depository of knowledge of how knives should be enjoyed.

I don't troll. I just feel that you are posting to generate sympathy for your view and try to get a "consensus" to make people of a different persuasion feel bad about how they feel about their knives.

While your OP didn't contain anything specific, it was ridiculing a different point of view.
 
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A lot of people in the knife community seem to have some sort of embarrassment about being labeled "collectors," as if that isn't something that people have been doing with respect to thousands of different types of things for thousands of years.
 
brancron said:
A lot of people in the knife community seem to have some sort of embarrassment about being labeled "collectors," as if that isn't something that people have been doing with respect to thousands of different types of things for thousands of years. Just because knives are useful doesn't make them
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Not really, It's the people like the OP who always dismiss the collectors as "people who just cuddle" their knives and are somehow lesser knife enthusiasts because they view their knives as other than tools.

I'm sure the collectors feel as good about their knives as others.
 
singularity35 said:
Not really, It's the people like the OP who always dismiss the collectors as "people who just cuddle" their knives and are somehow lesser knife enthusiasts because they view their knives as other than tools.
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I treat my knives like a pen collector friend of mine treats his pens: I use some of them a lot, use most of them sometimes, and barely use a few of them. Nothing wrong with that.
 
That's a tough one, tactical knives are weapons, traditional fixed blades are tools, traditional folders are either tools or a gentlemanly daily carry that happens to be a tool [emoji41]
 
It's funny to me how even people with the same specialized interests become polarized and cliquish. I'm guilty of this myself to some extent. With behavior like this so typical, it makes me wonder how anyone could possibly think a world government would ever work when like-minded people can't even get along.
 
AJPeacock said:
New to the forum, thought I'd introduce myself.

Grew up on a farm/ranch in western Colorado, always had a knife with me.

Live in Michigan now and typically have a sub 3" fixed or folder with me and sometimes a simple pocketknife.

A knife is a tool to me 100%, which doesn't mean that I mistreat them or don't appreciate the lines of a well made/designed knife.

But honestly, until I started reading this forum, I never once considered a scratch on a knife to be anything different than a scratch on a shovel, axe, screwdriver or hammer!

I feel the same way about firearms and I've done some serious shooting with rifles that cost more than a lot of cars I've owned!

I don't 'mistreat' firearms either, but never really worried about a scratch here or there (other than making sure they were cleaned up so they wouldn't rust).

So, am I the only one?

AJ

ps: mighty nice forum you have here, so much great information available via the search facility, that there is almost no reason to post anything!
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AJ,
Welcome to the forum. To give you the quick answer, no I don't feel that knives are "just" tools like screw drivers, hammers or shovels. I feel that they are a step above those. Because of that, to me they are more than just tools they are something that I may one day have to stake my life on. I don't caress them or sleep with them, I use them hard and I am sure I have abused knives way more than most, but that is because I like to know how far my gear can go. But to me they are not just a tool.

If you consider something just a tool, then you really don't care about it's technology, you just care about it's immediate use and your immediate gratification. Why spend hours researching about a screw driver? why spend hours trying to find the best steel to use in a screw driver, just to screw in a screw? no my friend, they are not on the same level and if you think they are, well, then that is for you, but I certainly don't feel the same as you. To me they are a tool and much much more.
 
Let's hope this "discussion" doesn't turn into another nerd fight like that last Sebenza tantrum fest a couple days ago.
 
singularity35 said:
I actually never buy a knife I don't use or plan to(I have backups for knives I like). I just feel that nobody should be the sole depository of knowledge of how knives should be enjoyed.

I don't troll. I just feel that you are posting to generate sympathy for your view and try to get a "consensus" to make people of a different persuasion feel bad about how they feel about their knives.

While your OP didn't contain anything specific, it was ridiculing a different point of view.
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No specifics, but 'ridiculing' ? Are you serious???

Dude, take a chill pill, you have my 100% approval to feel however you want to about your knives.


Night all.

AJ
 
This topic, the debate, is a bit overthought...

...but I'll bite.

The existence or absence of a knife requires little thought. Simple. Maybe that's why I like them.
 
When people ask me if they should buy a good bicycle, I say that a good bicycle is like a good banjo. You can't leave it alone. I can't walk by the Mastertone without picking it up, grinning, and playing a few tunes. I can't leave a good bike alone. Good knives are in the same category. They bring a smile to my face. Good tools are more fun to use.
 
brancron said:
I treat my knives like a pen collector friend of mine treats his pens: I use some of them a lot, use most of them sometimes, and barely use a few of them. Nothing wrong with that.
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I tend to carry just one knife at a time, usually for a year or more. Then I find a different one. I do keep a few favorite models around just to admire, but don't intend to ever carry one of them.
Each to his own...
 
Stelth said:
It's funny to me how even people with the same specialized interests become polarized and cliquish. I'm guilty of this myself to some extent. With behavior like this so typical, it makes me wonder how anyone could possibly think a world government would ever work when like-minded people can't even get along.
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Oh, I'm sure we could agree if we had to. Bickering over what/who is/isn't a tool is slightly more interesting. I'm still shocked, moved, and confused by how many people ran to defend the honor of collectors. Awesome. :)

Without getting religious at all, I'll say that at least one religious group -- the Sikhs -- see knives as something more than tools. I've now exhausted my knowledge of Sikh culture and belief, and mention purely for the sake of mentioning. I'm pretty sure there's nothing worth arguing about in this thread, but I'll take a better look.;)
 
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