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I always thought that there was no better beater than a Rolex diver's watch.
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High dollar customs...to use or not to use.
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Only problem is, I actually carry and use most of my knives and I enjoy using them. So unless you think I've got a stigma against my enjoyment of using my own knives, you're line of reasoning doesn't hold up very well. Nice try, though.Ahh, and it sounds like now we are trying to establish a stigma against those who hold the opinion that a knife is best enjoyed in use.
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I always thought that there was no better beater than a Rolex diver's watch.
You're preaching to the choir. My Datejust is the only watch I've worn for the last 20 years. On the other hand, I'm sure you'd agree that there's quite a bit of difference between using a watch and using a knife . . . unless, of course, you'd like to show me how you baton your Rolex.
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The number might change for each individual person but I think most of us understand the question.
I have a strong connection to anything that I buy and I don't want something, even a tool, to suffer unnecessary damage. If I buy a knife to use, I will use it. Otherwise I won't buy it. I've been in the gray area a couple of times, and eventually sold those knives and bought something else that I wouldn't mind using. I carry and use all of my folders, although I pick some of them to use for more intense use and the others mostly for EDC. I have a lot of fixed blade knives, many more than I can use, and I've identified certain ones that I will use. I would not mind using any of them if I needed to but most of my nicer fixed blade knives are hunting knives and I have very little chance of doing much hunting.
I used to be a watch enthusiast and there are a lot of parallels between watch enthusiasts and knife collectors. I've bought several low cost watches to wear as "beaters", but even a low priced Seiko that I bought turned out to be too nice to wear where I knew it would be beat up so I couldn't bear to wear it. I finally bought a cheap used Casio that I was willing to let get beat up a little and did wear it during those times.
Is that Casio modded?
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I always thought that there was no better beater than a Rolex diver's watch.
True dat, just go on any job site and you'll see a ton of Rolex watches, day in, day out,...
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True dat, just go on any job site and you'll see a ton of Rolex watches, day in, day out,...
What are 3 things that every "operator" has?
Pickup truck, Rolex, and a divorce.
There was a time when the Rolex part used to be true. Now most "Tier 2 personalities" go for the G-Shock. Before the brand took on a luxury aura in the 80's, it's fame was it's durability and waterproofness.
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Yep. That's the prevailing point of view, all right. It's not possible that someone could collect knives for their artistic value, right?
So here are the dominant POVs around here:
1. If you don't use your knives, you've got no reason to live.
2. If you collect knives and don't "use" them, we'll tolerate you . . . barely.
3. If you invest in knives or worse yet, flip them, you are the scum of the earth.
If you think I'm wrong about that, stick around awhile and keep your eyes open. You'll see what I'm talking about sooner or later . . .
So if this is the prevailing view at Bladeforums.com, and if it chaps you as much as it seems to, what do you get out of this place that you are a gold member with over 6,000 posts? Sorry, but I see plenty of posts all over BF that celebrate the pristine collector knife, the one that goes into the pocket but never actually cuts anything, the knife that goes from owner to owner.
I prefer to take the fisherman at his word, not to foist sentiments on him. He asked a straightforward question, to solicit sympathetic answers, to be sure, but if he says he's not judging non-users, then I believe him.
Oh, and anyone who buys a high-end knife and then puts it in a safe or flips it is taking food out of the mouths of starving children. And probably kills kittens, too. Not judging, just sayin'.
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I think of one of my best buds and he pretty much fits that to a "T". Truth be told, I've often considered buying a "higher-end timepiece"(I know in some circles a Rolex is the starting point, but you get my drift), but still have some reservations. Aside from the price that would require some saving and what not, I know I would have to be comfortable wearing the watch every day, on duty or off.
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I guess a Sebenza would be considered the starting point for high end knives?
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^Agree completely. Sometimes the simplest answer is the correct one.
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Yup, they aren't thumb studs. I was sad to see the 0560 go as well but along with my 0562cf & 550 I have two 0560s so I think I am covered.
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If you're asking me, I don't know. It's an individual definition. I wasn't knocking Rolex. It's pricey, but nowhere near as pricey as some watches out there. The same goes for a Sebenza, to a point. But there are differences between the two for sure. I know Rolex and CRK are often compared on this Forum, but I disagree. I would argue there wouldn't be many non-knife enthusiasts who would recognize a CRK in the wild, but plenty of non-watch enthusiasts recognize the Rolex brand.
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Actually, if you've paid attention, you've seen posts from ME about knives I carry that rarely if ever cut anything. That doesn't mean I won't cut something with them if the need arises. I simply don't work in an environment where I have to cut stuff very often and when it do, there are cheaper, handier instruments I can cut with that don't put wear and tear on my expensive knives. But that's not the point. The point is that folks like you insist that I must be harboring a resentment because of what I say and the way I say it, and that's simply not the case. Holding resentments for me is a matter of life and death. (Don't be concerned if you don't understand what I mean by that. There are plenty of folks around here that do.) I'm just an observer who calls it like he sees it. And in the case of the observations I made earlier, I've seen them a lot.
PS: Re: getting chapped, there's a saying that may apply here. If you spot it, you got it.
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So, it's about status?
I'm way past the status thing with most "things" although I like to believe that I choose something for what I hope is the quality I seek and can afford. Using is important only in that if you don't use a knife, sooner or later you just give up the hobby as it forms the basis of everything. Take guns for an example..... if you shoot often, you are more likely to buy more firearms. If you slowly move into a period where you have little interest in shooting, you probably aren't going to be picking up many guns.
I'm way past the status thing with most "things" although I like to believe that I choose something for what I hope is the quality I seek and can afford. Using is important only in that if you don't use a knife, sooner or later you just give up the hobby as it forms the basis of everything. Take guns for an example..... if you shoot often, you are more likely to buy more firearms. If you slowly move into a period where you have little interest in shooting, you probably aren't going to be picking up many guns.
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For a guy who lives on a very limited/set income, I can't afford to own things I'm not using. I still like owning and using custom megafolders. I like well made tools/weapons. I consider my watch a tool. I use the rotating bezel several times a day. I'm using it right now as a visual reminder to reset the toaster oven back for another hour... 2nd temper cycle for this:
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Actually, if you've paid attention, you've seen posts from ME about knives I carry that rarely if ever cut anything. That doesn't mean I won't cut something with them if the need arises. I simply don't work in an environment where I have to cut stuff very often and when it do, there are cheaper, handier instruments I can cut with that don't put wear and tear on my expensive knives. But that's not the point. The point is that folks like you insist that I must be harboring a resentment because of what I say and the way I say it, and that's simply not the case. Holding resentments for me is a matter of life and death. (Don't be concerned if you don't understand what I mean by that. There are plenty of folks around here that do.) I'm just an observer who calls it like he sees it. And in the case of the observations I made earlier, I've seen them a lot.
PS: Re: getting chapped, there's a saying that may apply here. If you spot it, you got it.
Yeah, dunno. Don't follow your posts particularly, just read your line about agendas and such. Reads like resentment to me. And life or death might be some 12 Step stuff? Dunno there, either, as I'm not a member of that subculture. Also don't follow your last line but it obviously made you smile, so that's cool.
My problem here is that the OP asked a sincere question, you started in on some personal rant, and now I'm actually under the bridge feeding you. Shame on me. I'm outta this one.
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+1 on using high-end/high dollar knives. I was against it when I came here some years ago, but I've changed my tune completely.
Now on those trout, what are you doing removing the heads? They're some of the best parts of the fish!
Zieg
Funny you mention that. I eat the heads on EVERYTHING and hate wasting meat but those little trout are so small I just can't be bothered messing with the heads for a thimble full of meat. Now you've got me feeling a little ashamed of myself though so I'll eat em next time out of respect.
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Just toss the trout back and problem is solved.
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Just toss the trout back and problem is solved.
If I was going to do that then I would start to wonder why I was even messing with them to begin with!
Nah, they bite the end of my line they're dinner. When I've got plenty of dinner I just pull the line in and go home. Of course if I had eaten all the heads like Zieg said, I could probably have filled our bellies on one less fish. Take all you want but eat all you take...Ok, now I'm getting hungry. In the spirit of this thread I'm going to go prep some fish for dinner with a Phil Wilson fillet knife!
