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Hale Storm,
"I just finished inventing the greatest folding fixed blade in history. It's made entirely of unobtainium with a tad bit of Vanadium in it. I can't show the pics of it or tell you the 137 patent numbers on it since it's the most awesome design ever since steel was invented. I've invested $6,000,000.00 in prototypes and 47 years of my time to test it on Mars. I'm posting to ask what all of you knifemaking experts think of my new knife?"

Ok............so this is how a supposed professional knife maker posts a comment, I'm suppose to get the warm and fuzzy ?
 
Haze says....
"Your dodging of questions shows that you have done nothing you claim to have done. I believe this knife isn't yours or your design. You have no patent on any part of it. You have only one piece and not the several you claimed to have. You spent too much money having that one knife made (or you're lying about that $6000) as no concept "proto" is presented fully finished with coatings, anodising and all the rest. You have no knowlege of knives or knife use and your knowlege of materials and engineering is about the same".
1. Comments like these show disrespect and I usually don't respond but what the heck.....

2. The FFK is 100% my design

3. I received a U.S. patent for it last year.

4. I have several FFK prototypes some with different locking mechanisms.

5. FFK prototypes are expensive.....that's a fact !

6. These prototypes have taught me a lot about material selection, HT, DLC, multiaxis CNC, wire edm.

7. I value and respect the machinists, CAD engineers as they are the unspoken true professionals.
 
Thank you to everyone who had complimentary things to say about my interactions here on Bladeforums. I believe I have worked very hard to not only be professional, but to also present myself in a way I would be proud of when potential customers research me on the internet before doing business with me. And FFK, you better believe they do that before making a purchase. Ask yourself if the way you've been acting is what you would want potential friends/customers to form their opinions on? Because that is exactly what happens in the internet age. And once it's on here, it pretty much lives forever.

To be perfectly candid, I have been snarky to you, and posted (what I thought) were humorous video responses to a lot of what you have said. But that's after I, along with makers/collectors with much more experience than me, tried sincerely to help you. This was my first post to you:

FFK,
I understand that you’ve come up with a locking mechanism that you believe in. And you have apparently gone to a lot of trouble to patent it, and work out the kinks. That is good for you, innovation and creativity is good for the knife world.

But if you want to market and sell your knives, you need to realize that people often buy the maker just as much as the knife. Obviously, the quality needs to be there, but assuming it is, you need to present yourself professionally on the forums. I don’t know you, and maybe you feel you are, but it seems pretty apparent that people are getting burnt out on these threads about your knife. You’ve proclaimed everything about this knife you can, I believe. Time for the rubber to meet the road.

You need to do some tests, preferably videotaped live, so no accusations are made about doctoring it. Even if the tests aren’t to destruction, show what this mechanism is capable of. What it can do that other knives/mechanisms can’t. That is what will be convincing. If you look back at Bladeforums history, tons of people have come on here making extravagant claims about knives. To set yourself apart, you need to show proof. Not talk about proof, not allude to proof, not extemporize or pontificate about proof, SHOW PROOF.

You face the additional problem of possibly inventing a solution to a problem that practically speaking, doesn’t exist. So far, you’ve shown one (1) failure of a folding knife that was laterally stressed. One which came from a much, much smaller market than the U.S. You haven’t shown one failure that is familiar to us here. That doesn’t mean they don’t exist, but it certainly doesn’t seem to be a common issue.

People keep telling you that most responsible people aren’t going to subject their folding knives to the type of lateral stresses your lock is designed to withstand, and you don’t want to hear it. Listen: That is your market telling you they don’t want your product in its’ current incarnation. Force feeding a product to consumers doesn’t usually work. Not to start on the seemingly inconvenient deployment process for the lock.

I hope some of this helps you out. If you don’t lay off the incessant threads and snarky replies, you won’t be able to give these things away once they’re finally ready for market. When will that be? Another good point, give your potential customers a target release date.

Sam

PS: Since you mentioned the thread title to my friend Cricketdave, as of this point, it should be amended to Folding Knife Break, not Breaks. Unless I missed one somewhere.
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After you have seemingly ignored so much good advice, what logical conclusion is there, but that you are playing some kind of game? I just decided to play along with you. As others have said, you can still salvage this, and not go down in flames. The advice is in this thread, and practically every other one you have started.

Thank you and best of luck,

Sam Wilson :thumbup:
 
If you would just provided evidence of what you say for once it would be nice. This mess would have been less likey to happen if you were upfront about things, I say less likely because the biggest problem here is actually you. There are a number of holes in your story and things that don't make sense. Seriously ask yourself what you're doing here and why you keep posting........we will not pat you on the head and tell you how lovely your drawings are so provide something of substance or just stop talking.

You still refuse provide anything to back up your claims so we continue to go round on this merry ride and I believe non of what you say to be to totally honest.

FFK said:
Haze says....
"Your dodging of questions shows that you have done nothing you claim to have done. I believe this knife isn't yours or your design. You have no patent on any part of it. You have only one piece and not the several you claimed to have. You spent too much money having that one knife made (or you're lying about that $6000) as no concept "proto" is presented fully finished with coatings, anodising and all the rest. You have no knowlege of knives or knife use and your knowlege of materials and engineering is about the same".
1. Comments like these show disrespect and I usually don't respond but what the heck.....

2. The FFK is 100% my design

3. I received a U.S. patent for it last year.

4. I have several FFK prototypes some with different locking mechanisms.

5. FFK prototypes are expensive.....that's a fact !

6. These prototypes have taught me a lot about material selection, HT, DLC, multiaxis CNC, wire edm.

7. I value and respect the machinists, CAD engineers as they are the unspoken true professionals.
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I let you in on a secret, about everyone who posted in this thread is a well respected member of the community or is someone who hasn't caused any problems and are treated with respect. You're the exception, we have already posted why SEVERAL TIMES. Quit with the "I am the victim here" BS and listen to what people are telling you if you want that to stop. I let you in on another secret you are the first person who is getting tough love from me on this forum or ANY forum I have ever participated in.

Haze said:
Your dodging of questions shows that you have done nothing you claim to have done. I believe this knife isn't yours or your design. You have no patent on any part of it. You have only one piece and not the several you claimed to have. You spent too much money having that one knife made (or you're lying about that $6000) as no concept "proto" is presented fully finished with coatings, anodising and all the rest. You have no knowlege of knives or knife use and your knowlege of materials and engineering is about the same.

Would that be a fair assessment of things here, FFK ?

You have done nothing to prove otherwise and now you're just refusing to provide any information or answer questions on the grounds that you had your feelings hurt because real knife makers saw some problmes that needed ironed out and asked you "difficult" questions. You wouldn't tell us anything from the start anyway so this silly nonsense actually makes no difference at all.

You need to ask yourself why you are even here, I know I'm not the only one wandering what you're all about......
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A large portion of what Haze has been saying I have been wondering myself. I've just been trying to play it nice because it seems like you get your feelings hurt way too easily. I've been wondering for awhile now if you really designed this, or if your some knife enthusiast with very little practical knowledge of how knives are used and made and one day just decided to play with a couple computer programs and get that design CNC machined for you. Than came here bragging about your new blade. There have just been way too many questions I would expect someone who designed the knife to be able to answer with ease, the type of questions you ask, threads you start, etc has made me come to this conclusion. Please prove us wrong, but this is my honest assessment of you from how things are going down.

As a side note I haven't even checked on the details on the patent.

FFK said:
Haze says....
"Your dodging of questions shows that you have done nothing you claim to have done. I believe this knife isn't yours or your design. You have no patent on any part of it. You have only one piece and not the several you claimed to have. You spent too much money having that one knife made (or you're lying about that $6000) as no concept "proto" is presented fully finished with coatings, anodising and all the rest. You have no knowlege of knives or knife use and your knowlege of materials and engineering is about the same".
1. Comments like these show disrespect and I usually don't respond but what the heck.....

2. The FFK is 100% my design

3. I received a U.S. patent for it last year.

4. I have several FFK prototypes some with different locking mechanisms.

5. FFK prototypes are expensive.....that's a fact !

6. These prototypes have taught me a lot about material selection, HT, DLC, multiaxis CNC, wire edm.

7. I value and respect the machinists, CAD engineers as they are the unspoken true professionals.
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Congrats you managed to answer the questions while not giving us any additional information you haven't before. Except for number 4, in which you claim you own several with different locking mechanisms and no 6. We've only seen one prototype and you haven't been able to answer questions or provide us with details of your knife.

I am going to put it to you very bluntly, you've dug yourself into a very deep hole. You have had people who wanted proof that your knife can do what it claims for a very long time, more details on your product, and so many other things you couldn't even provide it's not even funny. And now you have at least 2 people who are out in the open, including myself who are wondering if you even actually designed this and that's probably the start of a flood gate. This is really the time to start proving us wrong.
 
Is it professional to start a new thread on the same forum that you're complaining about, complaining about a group of people who will probably see said thread? Nope.
 
You need to start answering questions properly. This is not funny and you are starting to look like a liar and possible fraud.

How similar is your lock to Mikov or Hubertus leaver locks ?

Why does your concept proto have blade coatings, anodising and a production finish look to it ?

What are your qualifications and where were you educated ?
 
FFK said:
12345678910,
The time for useful dialog about the FFK mechanism(on BF anyway) has passed. But since most of you seem to want to continue the insults, I will gladly return the

favor. Lets start with this:
1. This should be a forum of knife enthusiasts and professional knife makers(jury is still out on that) It is.

2. The FFK has little in common with current knife design other than a blade/handle/pivot pin. Show us.

3. The locking mechanism/application is completely new and very strong. Show us.

4. In the last 5 years of developing this mechanism and getting it to work properly,.....like it or not.....I am the resident expert on it.
You are not ! Show us.

5. I have tried to spin you guys up but you seem stuck. Show us. All you are doing is yapping.

6. I have forgotten more about the FFK mechanism than you will ever know.
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Show us. You can talk about this all day and all night, but unless you prove it, all your 'talk' is just that; talk. You have been asked respectfully to show us a prototype, and have been respectfully asked for your patent number. Unless you produce, then there isn't any reason to continue listening to you.
 
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