Hinderer forum gone?

Discussion in 'Tech Support, General Q&A, Site Feedback & More' started by Homo habilis, Oct 8, 2015.

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  1. bld522

    bld522

    Feb 3, 2004
    You call that easy? The most difficult of don Miguel Ruiz's Four Agreements has to be number 2 . . . don't take anything personally. To do the job you guys do fairly and evenly takes the patience of Job and the wisdom of Solomon. No small feat if you ask me. And yes, I acknowledge that my perspective and membership level don't give me a lofty perch. I just have to rely on the experience I've gained since I've been here and do the best I can to make sense of the horizon I'm presented with.

    Good luck. I mean that sincerely!
     
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  2. Esav Benyamin

    Esav Benyamin MidniteSuperMod

    Apr 6, 2000
    Don't take anything personally.

    Maybe this is a variant of that: if a member doesn't seem to need Bladeforums rules, then we don't need that member. Sharks are always hungry.
     
  3. bld522

    bld522

    Feb 3, 2004
    True that. Some need to have the rules instilled in them a little more severely than others. ;)
     
  4. RevDevil

    RevDevil

    Nov 9, 2009
    Now you're starting to understand.
     
  5. bld522

    bld522

    Feb 3, 2004
    No worries, RD. I've pretty much always understood that. And I've been on the receiving end myself a couple of times. So I know you guys aren't messing around.
     
  6. Homo habilis

    Homo habilis

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    Apr 23, 2015
    Hi RD, I am so sorry you didn't like my post, I almost cried.
    Trying to make sense of your wisdom, there are the legitimate haters aka Evil SuperMods and illegitimate haters aka trolls, sharks, etc. All the other annoying people who want to talk about knives better don't post here.
    In that light the comment from philwar makes total sense:
    Any comment about actual knives will just attract even more haters, legitimate or otherwise, and should be avoided.
    Something is at odds here?
     
  7. RevDevil

    RevDevil

    Nov 9, 2009
    A little common sense would go a long way. Don't get too philosophical too quick, wait until you get the hang of this place and then you go all Socrates on whatever topic you like. You know nothing of me, at all. Please don't assume to, not a good idea.
     
  8. TheSadPanda

    TheSadPanda

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    Jun 14, 2015
    Looks like we are never gonna get to know why the Hinderer forum was shut down for sure, but i tell you what...
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  9. Esav Benyamin

    Esav Benyamin MidniteSuperMod

    Apr 6, 2000
    Well now, Sad Panda, it looks like you do know why the Hinderer forum was shut down.

    Homo habilis, you should understand that Bladeforums does not establish manufacturer forums for hobbyists,, only for manufacturers. This is why those forums are under the manufacturers' control. If they don't feel the forum is supporting their brand, they leave.

    On the other hand, if the moderators feel tthat a member isn't working with Bladeforums, we send them to walk the plank, where the ever-circling sharks put an end to that argument.
     
  10. archieblue

    archieblue Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 19, 2001
    I certainly felt that the RHK forum had too many ridiculous rules and was overly censored. Basically saying anything other than "I love Hinderer and my knife is perfect" would get you poo'ed on.

    Personally I find my Hinderers to be frikkin excellent knives. I never would have paid the secondary prices of a few years ago but if any knife is "worth" $400 my examples certainly are.

    The CRK forum has survived (and thrived) many years here on the BF. They have both received the highest praise and nonsensical criticism. And the product shines through. My guess is either Rick does not 1. believe in his product, 2. did not take enough time choosing or have faith in his Mods, or 3. just did not want to pay them. My guess is a combo of 2 & 3.
     
  11. RevDevil

    RevDevil

    Nov 9, 2009
    At least one of the manufacturer forum mods must be a paid employee, here could always be more employees willing to help, the rest volunteer members chosen by that manufacturer to assist.
     
  12. bld522

    bld522

    Feb 3, 2004
    Too many assumptions in that to suit me. As I said before, I think it's a matter of matching the correct tool to the job. If you don't have the correct tool, either go get it don't try to do the job.

    Moderating a forum . . . ANY FORUM . . . is not for the faint of heart or the weak of stomach. A great moderator will encourage discussion while at the same, know when and where to draw the line.
     
  13. marcinek

    marcinek Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 9, 2007
    I agree. I don't know how one could come to those conclusions without a lot more evidence.

    That said, if they were running the forum as a "don't spoil the fans' fun" type of forum, as I said before, I don't see anything wrong with that, and I think its a great model.

    But you gotta do that or don't. Set down ground rules and stick to them. Doing that IS a tough job that requires understanding of the people who spend time at forums like this, as well as a thick skin.
     
  14. Esav Benyamin

    Esav Benyamin MidniteSuperMod

    Apr 6, 2000
    We have forums that manage to do this fairly well. Spyderco keeps an eye on what's happening and Sal himself sets the example. On another level, the Traditional forum sets fairly strict standards of topic and propriety.
     
  15. bld522

    bld522

    Feb 3, 2004
    Two wonderful examples for sure. I'd throw CRK in there as well. And it just goes to prove that forums can be open and lively and still be well-managed with the right people at the helm.

    By the way, I know it sounds like people are sucking up when they say our moderating staff is great. But I don't care. You guys really ARE great . . . maybe the best group of moderators I've ever seen. You do a tough, thankless job for the most part. But I don't think this place could exist without you. Thanks!
     
  16. Maggot Brain

    Maggot Brain Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 11, 2012
    I'd say it was about saving face, given that their lock is crap which is prone to such safety issues noted here in previous posts and they likely don't want to admit it….

    [video=youtube;kLYeo3m162I]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLYeo3m162I[/video]
     
  17. marcinek

    marcinek Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 9, 2007
    I agree. Said it before in this very thread...

    I meant "here." But it does take the time to look at those forums and see how the models work, then the commitment and effort involved to pick to a model and stick to it.

    Again, I have no idea what happened here, but I'm sure some manufacturers find it all not worth the effort.

    That says nothing about them, or the quality of their products.

    It just can all be a big pain in the butt. And that's not sucking up...its just the way it is.
     
  18. craytab

    craytab Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 26, 2012
    I think they left so they wouldn't have to put up with nonsense like this.
     
  19. Maggot Brain

    Maggot Brain Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 11, 2012
    How is this nonsense exactly?
     
  20. craytab

    craytab Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 26, 2012
    If you don't know I can't explain it to you.
     
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