Hinderer MP-1 vs Olamic Wayfarer 247

[Officer's Match]

The 247 has a stop pin fixed into the blade which runs through tracks in the frames.

Most excellent, and thank you for clearing that up. My apologies for my incorrect assumption.

 

[kniferbro]

I have to say I dislike most internal stop pins. but the set up on the 247 is how they should be done. A pin through the blade and tracks cut into the frame, not the other way around.

 

[Hackenslash]

I don't have an MP-1. My only Hinderer is an XM-18, but I do have an Olamic 247 and would like to offer my thoughts. I also have several KAI designed Hinderers and have found a common feature to RH designs. This may or may not apply to the MP-1, but it's worth a shot.

My sense is they'd be entirely different knives. My XM is a rugged, brute of a knife that flips a little sluggishly and locks up securely. It affords good grip and the Bowie blade provides a functional cutting edge. The same can be said for my ZT0561, 0562, 0566 and 0550. One could even make the argument that the ZT Hinderers are a little more polished than the XM. Cutting to the chase, my Hinderers are great knives but designed around a primary purpose to perform as a reliable, sturdy tool.

The Olamic Cutlery 247 takes the knife concept a step further. The fit, finish and overall performance far exceed that of my Hinderer. The attention to detail is evident, positioning them as a true "production custom" or mid-tech knife. This doesn't come at the sacrifice of performance as a durable, rugged tool however. The 247 simply looks better while doing it. The knife is a joy to fondle, flip and use. I guess you could call it "tough-ass-hand-candy"...

I see it as the difference between heading into battle with a Broadsword or a Katana. Two entirely different styles bringing different styles of use, but each equally effective at what they're made to do.

Either way, it comes down to what fits your use and carry style. I've heard that the new MP-1 and Halftrack have raised the Hinderer bar for production knives, so the difference that I'm seeing may be diminished.

At the end of the day, you know you'll end up with both so why not go all in? That's what credit cards are for .

 

[KELAMA]

I don't have an MP-1. My only Hinderer is an XM-18, but I do have an Olamic 247 and would like to offer my thoughts. I also have several KAI designed Hinderers and have found a common feature to RH designs. This may or may not apply to the MP-1, but it's worth a shot.

My sense is they'd be entirely different knives. My XM is a rugged, brute of a knife that flips a little sluggishly and locks up securely. It affords good grip and the Bowie blade provides a functional cutting edge. The same can be said for my ZT0561, 0562, 0566 and 0550. One could even make the argument that the ZT Hinderers are a little more polished than the XM. Cutting to the chase, my Hinderers are great knives but designed around a primary purpose to perform as a reliable, sturdy tool.

The Olamic Cutlery 247 takes the knife concept a step further. The fit, finish and overall performance far exceed that of my Hinderer. The attention to detail is evident, positioning them as a true "production custom" or mid-tech knife. This doesn't come at the sacrifice of performance as a durable, rugged tool however. The 247 simply looks better while doing it. The knife is a joy to fondle, flip and use. I guess you could call it "tough-ass-hand-candy"...

I see it as the difference between heading into battle with a Broadsword or a Katana. Two entirely different styles bringing different styles of use, but each equally effective at what they're made to do.

Either way, it comes down to what fits your use and carry style. I've heard that the new MP-1 and Halftrack have raised the Hinderer bar for production knives, so the difference that I'm seeing may be diminished.

At the end of the day, you know you'll end up with both so why not go all in? That's what credit cards are for .

^ Excellent post! :thumbup:

I too have owned/own a few Hinderer's, but never an MP-1.

My Olamic 247 Wayfarer, arrived just last week. The fit and finish is amazing. It's really a sleek, classy looking folder. I personally classify the one I received as more of a gentleman's folder, rather than a tough use knife I would use on the job; although it seems perfectly capable for that.

 

[mmmotorcycle]

I don't have an MP-1. My only Hinderer is an XM-18, but I do have an Olamic 247 and would like to offer my thoughts. I also have several KAI designed Hinderers and have found a common feature to RH designs. This may or may not apply to the MP-1, but it's worth a shot.

My sense is they'd be entirely different knives. My XM is a rugged, brute of a knife that flips a little sluggishly and locks up securely. It affords good grip and the Bowie blade provides a functional cutting edge. The same can be said for my ZT0561, 0562, 0566 and 0550. One could even make the argument that the ZT Hinderers are a little more polished than the XM. Cutting to the chase, my Hinderers are great knives but designed around a primary purpose to perform as a reliable, sturdy tool.

The Olamic Cutlery 247 takes the knife concept a step further. The fit, finish and overall performance far exceed that of my Hinderer. The attention to detail is evident, positioning them as a true "production custom" or mid-tech knife. This doesn't come at the sacrifice of performance as a durable, rugged tool however. The 247 simply looks better while doing it. The knife is a joy to fondle, flip and use. I guess you could call it "tough-ass-hand-candy"...

I see it as the difference between heading into battle with a Broadsword or a Katana. Two entirely different styles bringing different styles of use, but each equally effective at what they're made to do.

Either way, it comes down to what fits your use and carry style. I've heard that the new MP-1 and Halftrack have raised the Hinderer bar for production knives, so the difference that I'm seeing may be diminished.

At the end of the day, you know you'll end up with both so why not go all in? That's what credit cards are for .

This is a very good assessment I feel. I had a chance to handle both at one point and the MP-1 simply fit my smaller hands better, so today I have a new Black/Blue G-10 MP-1.

They are both awesome knives but like a great pair of hiking boots or a new car, buy what fits you best. Do all your research and you can never lose.

 

[discretion]

I don't have an MP-1. My only Hinderer is an XM-18, but I do have an Olamic 247 and would like to offer my thoughts. I also have several KAI designed Hinderers and have found a common feature to RH designs. This may or may not apply to the MP-1, but it's worth a shot.

My sense is they'd be entirely different knives. My XM is a rugged, brute of a knife that flips a little sluggishly and locks up securely. It affords good grip and the Bowie blade provides a functional cutting edge. The same can be said for my ZT0561, 0562, 0566 and 0550. One could even make the argument that the ZT Hinderers are a little more polished than the XM. Cutting to the chase, my Hinderers are great knives but designed around a primary purpose to perform as a reliable, sturdy tool.

The Olamic Cutlery 247 takes the knife concept a step further. The fit, finish and overall performance far exceed that of my Hinderer. The attention to detail is evident, positioning them as a true "production custom" or mid-tech knife. This doesn't come at the sacrifice of performance as a durable, rugged tool however. The 247 simply looks better while doing it. The knife is a joy to fondle, flip and use. I guess you could call it "tough-ass-hand-candy"...

I see it as the difference between heading into battle with a Broadsword or a Katana. Two entirely different styles bringing different styles of use, but each equally effective at what they're made to do.

Either way, it comes down to what fits your use and carry style. I've heard that the new MP-1 and Halftrack have raised the Hinderer bar for production knives, so the difference that I'm seeing may be diminished.

At the end of the day, you know you'll end up with both so why not go all in? That's what credit cards are for .

Thanks. Really nice observations. I'm leaning towards the 247 due to the responses on this post.

 

[OlamicCutlery]

No apologies needed! That's why I'm around.

Most excellent, and thank you for clearing that up. My apologies for my incorrect assumption.

 

[OlamicCutlery]

So that's where this hybrid version. We've only made maybe 5 or so like that - with the presentation side sculpted and the clip side flat. It's a bit quirky since the frames vary in thickness (although the start off the same thickness) but we think it's cool like that.

^ Excellent post! :thumbup:

I too have owned/own a few Hinderer's, but never an MP-1.

My Olamic 247 Wayfarer, arrived just last week. The fit and finish is amazing. It's really a sleek, classy looking folder. I personally classify the one I received as more of a gentleman's folder, rather than a tough use knife I would use on the job; although it seems perfectly capable for that. Maybe if I'd gotten the hole 247 design with a stonewash finish, I'd feel differently- but they were out of stock. This one is just too darn handsome! Maybe I need to do a pass around to help give this a more rugged look.

 

[KELAMA]

So that's where this hybrid version. We've only made maybe 5 or so like that - with the presentation side sculpted and the clip side flat. It's a bit quirky since the frames vary in thickness (although the start off the same thickness) but we think it's cool like that.

It is, a really cool knife! :thumbup:

 

[ChazzyP]

Jill, has your anodized ti turned darker over time? My 247 is brand new and the hardware is much brighter.
--Steve

 

[SaraLikesKnives]

He could just have a darker bronze anodize than yours, or the oils in his hands gave it that purple-ish sheen.

 

[Officer's Match]

"Never the same". Different ano I'd bet. Also, I just pulled the trigger on one myself.

 

[Officer's Match]

... and here it is. So far I love it. Build is fantastic if not perfect. Handle is super comfy. Has a smaller feel in spite of being near identical (size/shape) to an XM18 3.5" (see comparisons to my spanto).













247 sitting directly upon XM18 3.5" Spanto

 

[SaraLikesKnives]

Ooh wow I really love that 2-tone blade!!

Quick question: what's the weight difference between the two knives?

 

[Officer's Match]

I don't have scales, but I'd say they are close, certainly within an ounce of each other. My guess is the 247 is slightly heavier, but it feels substantially lighter in the hand to me.

 

[sharp_edge]

I don't have an MP-1. My only Hinderer is an XM-18, but I do have an Olamic 247 and would like to offer my thoughts. I also have several KAI designed Hinderers and have found a common feature to RH designs. This may or may not apply to the MP-1, but it's worth a shot.

My sense is they'd be entirely different knives. My XM is a rugged, brute of a knife that flips a little sluggishly and locks up securely. It affords good grip and the Bowie blade provides a functional cutting edge. The same can be said for my ZT0561, 0562, 0566 and 0550. One could even make the argument that the ZT Hinderers are a little more polished than the XM. Cutting to the chase, my Hinderers are great knives but designed around a primary purpose to perform as a reliable, sturdy tool.

The Olamic Cutlery 247 takes the knife concept a step further. The fit, finish and overall performance far exceed that of my Hinderer. The attention to detail is evident, positioning them as a true "production custom" or mid-tech knife. This doesn't come at the sacrifice of performance as a durable, rugged tool however. The 247 simply looks better while doing it. The knife is a joy to fondle, flip and use. I guess you could call it "tough-ass-hand-candy"...

I see it as the difference between heading into battle with a Broadsword or a Katana. Two entirely different styles bringing different styles of use, but each equally effective at what they're made to do.

Either way, it comes down to what fits your use and carry style. I've heard that the new MP-1 and Halftrack have raised the Hinderer bar for production knives, so the difference that I'm seeing may be diminished.

At the end of the day, you know you'll end up with both so why not go all in? That's what credit cards are for .

At the risk of hijacking the thread for a moment, what do you think about Olamic 247 vs. high end Reate?

 

[Officer's Match]

At the risk of hijacking the thread for a moment, what do you think about Olamic 247 vs. high end Reate?

I have no experience with Reate. I do have a CKF MILK. Very different design objectives using nearly the same materials, lock, and deployment: titanium framelocks w' ss lockbar interface, M390 blade steel, deployed via (index finger) flipper. The MILK is much lighter, longer and sleeker - practically a stiletto by comparison. The 247 is more of an EDC, more versatile IMHO. Build quality comparable, leaning in Olamic's favor IMHO.

 

[Hackenslash]

At the risk of hijacking the thread for a moment, what do you think about Olamic 247 vs. high end Reate?

Most of my Reates are older. The newest one I have is the Wave. David Deng has steadily improved the quality of his knives with each successive generation. I think building knives for Todd Begg really made Reate push the envelope. The old D9 and Horizon A/B were awesome knives at their price point, but it's my impression that the new Epoch and Future have raised the bar on quality once again. My Reates, the older ones, would fall slightly behind the 247. I'm fairly confident that if you held a Future and a 247 in hand you'd be hard pressed to pick the better knife (beyond matters of personal preference).

Curiously enough, those two knives cost about the same. There is balance in the Force.

 

[Boscobarbel]

I wasn't familiar with Olamic until tonight. Apparently that was a good thing, as now I have to go find one to buy. Sigh.....

 

[jfindon]

I wasn't familiar with Olamic until tonight. Apparently that was a good thing, as now I have to go find one to buy. Sigh.....

Same thing that happened to me. I went from never hearing of them two buying my 247 two hours later. Most I've ever spent on a knife.