Home Fire & Knife Collections

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Except what I had on me and in my cars that day (My wife and I were babysitting the grandchildren when the fire happened) I lost my entire knife collection of over 1,000 knives, most new with boxes and paperwork. I had been collecting Buck knives, along with other Marques from all over the world, for over 20 years. My idea with the rare and older pieces (heck, with all of the collection eventually) was to preserve and pass them over to other collectors as I aged up past a certain point.

My most expensive knife was appraised @ $4000. A Boguszewski custom with a letter from Phil explaining how that rare knife fit into his work and into the history of stilettos. I recovered it and what you see in the video with some help.

Inside my fire resistant safe, which lost its top at some point, were fused together multiple proof sets of birth year coins for my two sons.

Oregon law puts my live-in handicapped beloved son on my homeowners insurance policy (his name does not appear on the policy). He was profiled as being disabled at the scene of a fire where he had lived and was arrested. His trial is scheduled for August first. The official fire report bore false witness IMHO as to what happened at the scene after I arrived regarding what was said and done that I and my wife had direct personal knowledge of. I have been told that our written statement of disagreement has been attached to the fire report. The sheriff's report is not available to me. I am not allowed by the court to speak to my son about the incident. I can only visit him if chaperoned. He has been in a hotel since 5-4 (date of the fire) and we remain in my older son's basement.

They say you only need to get rich once. Uh, uh. I lost a million dollars in the fire. I was insured for about $650k. I have replacement coverage. My dollar limits trump the word "replacement." I had not kept up with the hot market. I was under-insured. I expect to have the insurance carrier deny the claim due to my son. If that turns out to be the case then I will have to sue and maybe appeal. I have a legal strategy per extensive consultation with folks that do that. I've never sued anyone.

The day of the fire my wife and I left the house at 8:15 AM. A man I have never met took cell phone photos of our burning home between that time and before 10:00 AM (when the first fireman responder arrived) when the fire was determined to be non-survivable and a defensive action only was taken. A giant track hoe tossed the remains during and after the fire.

I am unable to post the cell phone photos (PDF format) from this Apple iPad Pro if anyone can be of aid I can email you a ton. I can't even separate them, over 70, from the fire report. The report showed four photos taken by this fellow from four sides of the home while it burned. This photographer is apparently the love interest of the combative female pot barn property owner my access easement crosses. I figured out how to give you access to those pics at the bottom of this post.

Wishes: 1. Don't own rare 1 of 1 pieces unless you can safeguard them without question (safe deposit box outside tornado alley or flood or tidal wave or fire or...). 2. Never accept a gift, ever. I miss those the most. You know who you are that gave me stuff and it hurts the most to lose those gifts, the idea of the gift, it makes me have to earn it every single day and not give up. 3. If you are gonna own expensive cutlery cultivate your insurance agent as a yearly visitor, have a separate rider for it, photograph/video/inventory all of it and keep those records off premises (in the cloud and in the lock box at the bank). Make the agent review the adequacy of your replacement insurance coverage every year. I'm still trying to recall what was in my collection! I'll be lucky to remember 1/2 of it. I will need a contents list whether the insurance comes to a fight or not.

Don't read this part: I did not just collect knives. I loved them. I really loved everything about them. The history, the makers, the knives themselves, the fellow owners, the get togethers and what was coming. What happened to me was like coming home and finding your girlfriend and your stuff gone. No note. Never to be seen again, ever. I was surrounded by the objects of my desire. They were everywhere in my home. All over. Multiple display cases, all over my desk, cubby hole in the kitchen, you name it.

I couldn't have written this even a few weeks ago. I might live thru this. My hope is that none of you have to.

Thank you for your kind words and thoughts everyone. Don't think about my wheels in the ditch. Instead maybe spend a moment or two thinking about managing your own risk, your investment in knives and how to protect it when it is not right in front of you.

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Below gives access to 5 photos of the fire: 1-4 of the stranger's cell photos in time sequence as the home burns and he goes to all four sides (pic 3 is sideways, sorry) and photo 5 was taken by first fireman at 10 AM. All photos are labeled. The home was cedar so it burned hot and fast. At least 10,000 rounds, various Calibers, cooked off (I only found a small handful of mangled shell casings). I miss my PCs and apologize for poor access to the pics here:

http://s19.photobucket.com/user/oregun/library/oregun062
 
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Unbelievable.. could you pm an address for parcel shipment to have some of us get you back on your feet?
 
Oregon
Again I wish you and your's all the best. I can't imagine what you are going through. Stay strong and take care of your loved ones as that is what matters most. As I said I can't begin to feel the emotions you have had and are going through but remember in the end they were material things albeit the collecting was a passion. Stay strong.
 
Many wise words, thanks for sharing and so very sorry for your lose.
I would have been wiser had I kept my mouth shut when I entered the scene of the fire. I had no idea of the forces ranging against my family that day from the sheriff and the fire department. I should have collect my son and removed him to the closest attorney in order to protect his rights.

Unbelievable.. could you pm an address for parcel shipment to have some of us get you back on your feet?
It is unbelievable. I still don't know what happened. The truth may never be known. I seem to be the only one interested in it but I am blocked at every turn. They say that the trick is to keep your head when all around you are losing theirs and blaming you. This feels like one of those times. I lose my home and belongings of 30 years and my survivor son is taken and I must defend him against a determined to incarcerate the disabled system (Google James Chasse 2006 for reference). $40k before experts and before appeals. You have PM.

Oregon
Again I wish you and your's all the best. I can't imagine what you are going through. Stay strong and take care of your loved ones as that is what matters most. As I said I can't begin to feel the emotions you have had and are going through but remember in the end they were material things albeit the collecting was a passion. Stay strong.
Thank you. Anger mostly. I am in counseling with my wife. The third party is female so they gang up on me. This is actually fun for me and I couldn't be more tickled that both women think that there is hope yet to cure my ails. My wife is a peach, a nurse, who radiates warmth and kindness and she deserves better so I must be better and I will be better.
 
Oregon, thank you for being a part of this Buck Forum. You are such a friend to so many and so many appreciate you. We wish you the very best and we are here for you as you need us. Always friends, DM
 
Thank you kindly Desert Dave. Right back at you.

A tip for a friend: One of these cheapie fire resistant safes may not be the answer. Those are sets of proof coins fused together there:

Did not find the locking top:


I used a sledge hammer to reveal the inner sleeve of the safe:
 
A still pic of the video group above. I used to take such care handling many of my knives that I wore gloves, laid out a clean white towel and had a small barrel fan blowing air over my desk to keep dust from settling on them. Here I'm using a wheelbarrow and bins. I laid them out and picked them up one at a time. Never used a shovel. Respect for the dead.

 
Oregon, I do not know you personally but I have read your post's and the help you have given others and thank you for it. I cannot even imagine what you and your family are going thru but I want you to know that you and your family are in our prayers.
 
Steve...I think Desert Dave summed it up best for a lot of us.
Tell your wife I said hello and am thinking of you both.
Mark
 
Oregon - I know it doesn't help much to say so sorry for your loss. I can only imagine how I would feel losing a lifetime of memories and cherished possessions. Another reason why a thief is one of the lowest life forms on Gods green Earth.

Please PM me your address sir.....

Hoping for better days.....
 
I'm so sorry for your loss. For what its worth you will be in our prayers here.
 
Oregon, I do not know you personally but I have read your post's and the help you have given others and thank you for it. I cannot even imagine what you and your family are going thru but I want you to know that you and your family are in our prayers.

My accused son is taking this like a man. He has a new doctor, he's in group therapy and takes long walks daily. His mother talks to him several times each day, still organizing his activities of daily living. He has food, shelter and clothing. His criminal defense lawyer is outstanding and works complicated cases often defending judges, for example. My lovely wife is a nurse so capable, sinewy and caring. I'm spilt pudding but you folks have put me back into the bowl for another go at it. Thank you.

Steve...I think Desert Dave summed it up best for a lot of us.
Tell your wife I said hello and am thinking of you both.
Mark

Thank you Stumps. I tried to write this time for people/collectors in the forum. I guess that I am still in rant mode and I promised Craig that I wouldn't be... Cindy says hello right back atcha!

Oregon - I know it doesn't help much to say so sorry for your loss. I can only imagine how I would feel losing a lifetime of memories and cherished possessions. Another reason why a thief is one of the lowest life forms on Gods green Earth.

Please PM me your address sir.....

Hoping for better days.....

Some of the objects, spear heads on the cement, came from Colonel Harry Skerry Army Corp. of Engineers. Survivor of the Bataan Death March. They were bot off Igorot hunters in the jungle pre-WWII accompanied by my wife's young father-to-be. They were given to me to be preserved and look what I did with them. They Colonel stayed behind to blow up bridges while everyone else left the Phillippines. He was captured and rotted in a Japanese prison camp in China until freed by the Russians at the end of the war in the East. I never had the honor of meeting him. I am not crying, there is something in my eyes. Thank you for your kind words. You have pm.

I'm so sorry for your loss. For what its worth you will be in our prayers here.

Craig is gonna lock this thread if I don't say something like, "what's on your insurance policy?" Or who amongst you has a separate rider on your homeowner's insurance policy for your knives. It is so rare to have a house fire. I've never known anyone to have this happen. I never thought that it could or would happen to me. My home was paid off decades ago. I paid my home insurance once a year. I didn't even know who my insurance company was off the top of my head. I had to go to my bank and get my checking records printed off for the year and figure it out to report my loss to them.

I studied my property tax statement every year. The market value and added 25%. Then compared this figure to my homeowner's figures and I was way over insured by these numbers/calculations. Wrong. The house and 5 acres I paid $117250 for in 1985 would now cost $500k just for the house and $400k for the land! It took a fire to wake up Rip Van Winkle, AKA oregon.
 
Your pictures and posts always were something to look forward to. I am sorry for your loss and what is being done to your son. Keep in touch with all of us on the forum.
 
Your pictures and posts always were something to look forward to. I am sorry for your loss and what is being done to your son. Keep in touch with all of us on the forum.

I lived for posting those photos, knives and wildlife and talking about them. With the gear I used to have it was a breeze.

I'd never heard of James Chasse and his 2006 beating death while in police custody. I did not know that a great many of the fireman at the scene of my house fire were police (fire marshals) profiling my disabled son for turn over to the soon to be flood of sheriff's dept. personnel. I figured that they were there to put out the fire. I was so happy that my son survived the fire. I didn't see it as a trap ready to slam shut.

I've been shy coming here since I lost so many knives. My story might help someone else. Please don't let it bother you. I intended this thread to be helpful. A lesson, instructive. Q and A ?
 
Oregon, I am terribly sorry that this has happened to you and your family.You have always been an inspiration to everyone here on this forum.I hope you will continue to post here and share your knowledge.
It really doesn't matter how many knives you have,your experience is something that is always valued here.
I wish you good luck in your battle .
Stay well,
 
Oregon, I am terribly sorry that this has happened to you and your family.You have always been an inspiration to everyone here on this forum.I hope you will continue to post here and share your knowledge.
It really doesn't matter how many knives you have,your experience is something that is always valued here.
I wish you good luck in your battle .
Stay well,

Thank you.

It's blueberry harvest season here and I bet it is there where you are as well. I had a few handfuls from a farm just down the road a bit from where I used to live. Dudonis farm. The old man (gone now) would call me at 2:00 AM, when the dew was setting and his crop of alfalfa could be bailed and not lose all of the tiny leaves, and tell me to get over there to Buck hay. It was me and his sons and other family members gathering bales out of the field for storage. He would feed me right along with all of his family, which came in from all over, and give me $20 which I always refused but he always insisted. I worked every kind of job to pay that place off and now it's smoke in the wind. I loved living out there because I knew clever and hard-working Mr. Dudonis and some varieties of his blueberries were not only sweet but also darn near the size of cherries!
 
Oregon, this whole affair boggles my mind, but you are on my mind - hope you can find peace amongst all of this. OH
 
Oregon, this whole affair boggles my mind, but you are on my mind - hope you can find peace amongst all of this. OH

Now you know how I feel.

My son faces trial in two weeks. There are some things I cannot say here or elsewhere. When I can speak without injury to him I will.

Thank you.
 
First sorry for your loss. I too always like your post, and I would be very upset loosing so much of what I had worked so hard to obtain. Not sure you can post this, but why is your son viewed as having committed a crime involving this incident? What he could have possibly done wrong eludes me?
 
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