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I once read: "When you are going thru hell keep going." Winston Churchill


I intended this thread to be helpful. A lesson, instructive. Q and A ?
I suppose I should google but, does anyone use a software program that catalogues pics and discriptions of knives, guns valuables?
 
Steve - I don't know really what to say that would make things any easier. Only time will tell how it all will end.

I have went through some tough times that in a way could have went worse than your situation but ended up being much less than yours on a couple occasions.

My Father would tell me "And this too shall pass" and it seemed like it did although the road was pretty rough at times.

Another wise older friend told me not to dwell over the things I have lost but be thankful that I had them and have the capability of working to get them back.

You will eventually move on and get through the losing of your house and prized personal possessions.

The hardest thing I can imagine is the uncertainty of what will happen with your son. I was in somewhat of a similar situation with one of my sons and it absolutely tore me up, When it was going on I didn't care
what it cost me or what I lost as long as my son was left alone and came out of it ok. I have seen first hand what the authorities do to make their case. Honesty, integrity, justice and the truth does not play into the game for them.
Fortunately my son came out of it fine but he was only 18 when this happened and I feel it has changed how he looks at things. I am fortunate to have a large supportive network of family and friends which made it all easier.

In the end the only things that matter are your family and friends. I pray your son comes out of this cleared and with his head held high as do you my friend.

If there is anything I can do I am not that far away from you and drive through your area quite often.
 
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This shows great character to think about others in such a devastating time in your life. I'm sorry that your family has to go through this.
 
Oregon was strong and kind enough to write this up both for himself and for you forum folks. After emailing each other I saw how his story could be repeated in many of your households. Especially with Custom Shop and older knives, even if you only have a dozen. Add that into firearms, furniture, your things that give you a everyday life. And it not just fire, but it has been tornado time for me, flooding events for others or just the common break in. (As a afterthought we have to include divorce also). Oregon has started the thinking on your situation feel free to discuss security and safety ideas for your household and if anyone is a insurance person speak up.
I think we have touched on these processes briefly in the past. But, continue to give Steve your encouragement and provide any info to the group you may have. Buck photos not required.

My wife leaves curtains open at night if I am not around in the living room. We have a couple of wild young characters that drive by going to their homes. I am not a advocate of open display of your knives in upright glass cabinets that can be seen thru a window from the dark. I would prefer to see you use a glass top coffee or end table if you just have to have them out. Having them out also invites talk about them by children if you have kids that bring other kids into your house. I have a small wall display in the computer/man room but 99% are in a safe. My safe is across from a window that never has a open blind and if there is a fire I have 30 minutes before the safe fails. I was hoping to get the fire guys to shoot a hose thru the window and keep the safe cool. But, when ammo starts popping off they will leave the area.

Keep Oregon in your thoughts and prayers and the rest of you consider your situation. 300

PS Part of me wants to just sell all but a cigar box full and just carry it where ever I go...
 
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tom19176 said:
First sorry for your loss. I too always like your post, and I would be very upset loosing so much of what I had worked so hard to obtain. Not sure you can post this, but why is your son viewed as having committed a crime involving this incident? What he could have possibly done wrong eludes me?
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Thank you tom. Why? I asked the detective at the scene this question and he pointed out my empty gas can on the bench next to the garage right where I left it on the ready line for refill. He had one question: was my son disabled? After a great deal of my questioning of a group of real firemen at the scene they finally admitted that they had seen a disabled former resident survivor at the scene of a home fire before. There is a stigma on the disabled in this neck of the woods. Believe it.
 
MaxCast said:
I once read: "When you are going thru hell keep going." Winston Churchill


I intended this thread to be helpful. A lesson, instructive. Q and A ?
I suppose I should google but, does anyone use a software program that catalogues pics and discriptions of knives, guns valuables?
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My contents adjuster thinks what you want would make a terrific fee for service business. One in which clients would not be so traumatized, angry and grief stricken.

I would walk thru your place narrating each item room by room: for purchased 1. When bot. 2. Where. Bot. 3. Cost. For gift 1 when acquired. 2. Value. 3. Condition For inherited 1. When inherited 2. Value. 3. Condition. I had taped our contents but the tape never made it to the bank lock box...
 
gedlicks said:
Steve - I don't know really what to say that would make things any easier. Only time will tell how it all will end.

I have went through some tough times that in a way could have went worse than your situation but ended up being much less than yours on a couple occasions.

My Father would tell me "And this too shall pass" and it seemed like it did although the road was pretty rough at times.

Another wise older friend told me not to dwell over the things I have lost but be thankful that I had them and the capability of working to get them back.

You will eventually move on and get through the losing of your house and prized personal possessions.

The hardest thing I can imagine is the uncertainty of what will happen with your son. I was in somewhat of a similar situation with one of my sons and it absolutely tore me up, When it was going on I didn't care
what it cost me or what I lost as long as my son was left alone and came out of it ok. I have seen first hand what the authorities do to make their case. Honesty, integrity, justice and the truth does not play into the game for them.
Fortunately my son came out of it fine but he was only 18 when this happened and I feel it has changed how he looks at things. I am fortunate to have a large supportive network of family and friends which made it all easier.

In the end the only things that matter are your family and friends. I pray your son comes out of this cleared and with his head held high as do you my friend.

If there is anything I can do I am not that far away from you and drive through your area quite often.
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Thank you James. You should write more. You are good at it. What you say comes thru clear, bright and resonant.

I'll be okay. The remainder of my life will not be what I had planned. It will be different.

My terrific wife will be okay. She is the most wonderful person, bright, capable and tough in her own way.

My son hasn't uttered one complaint. When diagnosed with his incurable disability in High School he just asked, "why me?"
Many diagnosed like him attempt to end themselves. Given a prison sentence I fear that he could be tortured and killed. Before he was cuffed at the scene I asked him if he would rather die or go to prison. He said prison. He wants to live.
 
GasMan1 said:
This shows great character to think about others in such a devastating time in your life. I'm sorry that your family has to go through this.
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Thank you for your kind words.

I've tried to look at all of our housing options, rent, trailer, mfg home, yurt and well you get the idea. I met and talked with many different people. Nobody, no one told me to shut up. Everyone insisted I tell the whole dang story of why I was looking for housing. Many had their own stories of great loss. A surprising number were fire based. There was mutual relief in the sharing and learning as well. Gedlicks is sage like and generous in his sharing. It helps my healing and hopefully shields, equips and enlightens readers.
 
Thank you Steve - I have learned that through great pain comes great wisdom and insight that individuals that have not gone through something like this cannot understand. I have not lost my home and possessions to a fire but I have lost some great friends and family members that I cannot ever get back no matter what I do. That bothers me more than any other monetary item I have ever lost.

All of us here are right there with you. Remain strong my friend. You will get your housing problem figured out in time and I pray you get your son back soon.
 
I'm very sorry about you loss! I hope you can find a way to recover.
I may be mistaken, but it almost looks like that buck 110 in that case may still be a knife.
Some of those knives ( if the fire didn't ruin the temper of the blades ) may be able to be turned into cutting tools again.

This may be a long shot, but trying to do what you can to turn some of them back into functional knives ( if possible )may eventually start you on a new hobby of restoring vintage user knives ( a much cheaper hobby, that is rewarding )
 
I will say another prayer for you and your family.

The entire event and what happened after the fire is confusing to me too.

Cate
 
Oregon, I nearly lost my wife to illness during our first year of marriage. One thing I held onto was that even Christ, in his divinity, felt abandoned by God.

Suffering is awful. Will pray for endurance and preservance. And that you will experience God's grace and presence.

Our suffering left us with a deeper appreciation of the gift of every living day. It's too early for you to think about lessons. You just need to survive the storm for now. But I can bear witness that God can give the grace to bear the unbearable and use our trials to perfect us. Until then, lean heavy on those who support you.
 
pinnah said:
Oregon, I nearly lost my wife to illness during our first year of marriage. One thing I held onto was that even Christ, in his divinity, felt abandoned by God.

Suffering is awful. Will pray for endurance and preservance. And that you will experience God's grace and presence.

Our suffering left us with a deeper appreciation of the gift of every living day. It's too early for you to think about lessons. You just need to survive the storm for now. But I can bear witness that God can give the grace to bear the unbearable and use our trials to perfect us. Until then, lean heavy on those who support you.
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Very well said, Pinnah.

Oregon, more prayers on the way for you and your family.
 
Hickory n steel said:
I'm very sorry about you loss! I hope you can find a way to recover.
I may be mistaken, but it almost looks like that buck 110 in that case may still be a knife.
Some of those knives ( if the fire didn't ruin the temper of the blades ) may be able to be turned into cutting tools again.

This may be a long shot, but trying to do what you can to turn some of them back into functional kniveus ( if possible )may eventually start you on a new hobby of restoring vintage user knives ( a much cheaper hobby, that is rewarding )
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Thank you.

There are a couple with some life left in them. I'm not allowed to bring any salvage to where I am staying. I've stashed them and they await kind treatment when we settle. Good suggestion.
 
Catherine_Montana said:
I will say another prayer for you and your family.

The entire event and what happened after the fire is confusing to me too.

Cate
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Thank you.

House and contents burned to ground. I don't know why. Disabled son arrested for it. Authorities want disabled inside prison. Insurance reluctant to honor claim under these circumstances. Oregon law governs. Law in your state may vary.
 
pinnah said:
Oregon, I nearly lost my wife to illness during our first year of marriage. One thing I held onto was that even Christ, in his divinity, felt abandoned by God.

Suffering is awful. Will pray for endurance and preservance. And that you will experience God's grace and presence.

Our suffering left us with a deeper appreciation of the gift of every living day. It's too early for you to think about lessons. You just need to survive the storm for now. But I can bear witness that God can give the grace to bear the unbearable and use our trials to perfect us. Until then, lean heavy on those who support you.
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Thank you.

I am happy that your wife survived. I think of my terrific wife as a part of me.

Excellent advice that I have read several times as had my wife. Very kind of you to offer those words to us.
 
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