Hope you're proud of yourselves!!

[IVANKERLEY]

unfortunately, china isn't the problem. companies are going overseas because they can't afford to pay the unions their ridiculous fees for pensions and healthcare. didn't chrysler or somebody just have to pay 55billion for some retirees? how is a company supposed to stay competitive when they have to pay that kind of money? i think toyota paid for like 4 pensions, as in 4 people.

at some point this country is going to have to wakeup and realize unions are a thing of the past and archaic. in today's world you can't survive as a business paying for all the associated costs to hire an american.

until people learn to be responsible for their own retirement (401ks, investments, etc) and stop relying on their companies we're going to see more product coming from overseas.

Ford paid Their CEO Nasser a cool 17 million for ruining the company, 17 mil to sink a company and leave. Im not gonna tow the union line but for every lowdown thing you think a union has done you can bet your ass a company has done equal or worse. Unionized workers are not sinking this nations economy, work around corporate america long enough and you will see where things are headed:barf: and who's steering the damn boat.
Unions can be bad but no worse than the companies they work for.
Companies move their product overseas to make more money, they use and abuse their foreign workers because they can, and its unchecked no OSHA, no EPA no unionized labor
Im sorry but the evil unions arent hurting the poor defenseless corporations of this country they are doing a bang up job of that themselves.
ivan

 

[Cougar Allen]

Gentlebeings, this forum is for talking about knife dealers and manufacturers. If you want to talk about current events or politics you can go to Current Events or BladeForums.com Political Arena.

 

[fracmeister]

retracted.

too late dude... someone already quoted your trailer line.... MA trailer is built rat here in the good old US of America....but please don;t ask for green cards where they assemble them!

As to the Buck knives being made in China. Well duh. Here is my question. Does anyone think they can actually see or measure a difference. Would Cliff "el destructo" Stamp be able to measure any differences?

I don;t know that answer. I know that a lot of low end Chinese steel, engineerng and operations going into drilling rigs underperforms Western couterparts...but that some of what they make is as good as anyone's.

 

[AR fan]

Trim, I've stayed out because I've noticed that it appears from the responses that most of you don't care that you are supporting communism. Not to mention the human rights issues concerning China, the treatment of Tibet, Taiwan, etc. I DO care.

 

[Morrow]

Trim, I've stayed out because I've noticed that it appears from the responses that most of you don't care that you are supporting communism. Not to mention the human rights issues concerning China, the treatment of Tibet, Taiwan, etc. I DO care.

Look at post #42.

 

[Cougar Allen]

Well, obviously this thread is about whether or not to buy knives made in China, and that is a knife-related subject. The trouble with these discussions, though, is they tend to wander off into arguments about all sorts of things and get farther and farther from the question of whether or not to buy knives made in China. That's what I'm trying to forestall.

 

[AR fan]

Cougar, when I responded in #44 it was because I was asked to by Trimcut123 in #40.
I haven't responded previously even though I was called names and my character, or intelligence was insulted many times. I feel I have a right to say what I think, I've earned it. I'm a totally disabled vet, with a service connected disability. Maybe that's why I have stronger views on dealings with Communism than some of you others. I don't have any problems with dealing with our friends overseas, some of my favorite spydies and Sogs come from Japan. As for this thread I hope it is left to die, I'm tired of the juvenile name calling.

 

[wh4f]

You post this:

Just keep buying up Buck's/China products, especially after the Chinese would not allow our sailors to dock in Hong Kong for Thanksgiving. Among many other things.
I looked at the pocket knife section of Buck's website. I found 38 pocket knives, guess how many were made in the U.S., (9).
As for the rest of you, all happy because you got your cheap china made tins. You make me wanna puke!!:jerkit:

and then this...

I haven't responded previously even though I was called names and my character, or intelligence was insulted many times. I feel I have a right to say what I think, I've earned it. I'm a totally disabled vet, with a service connected disability. Maybe that's why I have stronger views on dealings with Communism than some of you others. I don't have any problems with dealing with our friends overseas, some of my favorite spydies and Sogs come from Japan. As for this thread I hope it is left to die, I'm tired of the juvenile name calling.

I think everyone has a right to buy what they please. Buying a Buck knife is not the ruin of the world. We all have certain lifes stories that make us all unique but I don't go posting my life story on the net to try to qualify my use of the jerkit smiley and peoples actions making me sick.

I still go for the USA made knives, but I can't really concern myself with the rest of the world, life is too short and the world has bigger problems....
Buy what you like and leave everyone else alone....

 

[cutlerylover]

Trim, I've stayed out because I've noticed that it appears from the responses that most of you don't care that you are supporting communism. Not to mention the human rights issues concerning China, the treatment of Tibet, Taiwan, etc. I DO care.

To be honest, no, I don't care...I can't go through life buying everythgin american, I want to belive me I do, but america is kind of going down the tubes lately and not much is made in america anymore these days, and what is american is usaully more expensive...If I have a choice I will buy an american product over anythgin esle, but thats not always an option, and with knives, I buy what I like, no matter who made it...

I just want to say I think you are doing the right thing, however, you can't honestly say everyone makes you sick because they are not doing the same...thats what makes amercia so great, freedom to do what you want, right? So let people be, by starting this thread I doubt you amde anyone return their bucks...

But, I don't think your a bad guy for saying what you said, just try to be realistic, thats all...

lol, heres what really gets me though, when a guy in tibet getting paid $0.08 an hour calls me to let me know I need to pay my credit card debt, lol...Or when soemone who is even more in the hole than me here in america calls to hound me about paying off some debt...now thats just funny to me, but who knows, maybe Im strange?

 

[cutlerylover]

I'm a totally disabled vet, with a service connected disability.

This has nothing to do with the thread, but I want to thank you for serving for our country! seriously...People like you deserve some credit, more than you get Im sure...:thumbup: