How bad is my batch ?

91bravo said:
I don’t care to elaborate any further than what I’ve stated here. The information is out there if you want to do a little digging yourself.
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No offense, but that's a BS answer. If you are going to make a statement like that, then back it up with something when questioned about it. How do you know whatever "I dig up" is what you were referencing? Do you think cancer rates will rise? Mutations? Zombies? Aliens come down, flip a switch, and everyone with the vaccine turns obedient?
 
unwisefool said:
No offense, but that's a BS answer. If you are going to make a statement like that, then back it up with something when questioned about it. How do you know whatever "I dig up" is what you were referencing? Do you think cancer rates will rise? Mutations? Zombies? Aliens come down, flip a switch, and everyone with the vaccine turns obedient?
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Yeah, something like that.
 
unwisefool said:
We don't charge by the word here, you can elaborate and it won't cost anything extra
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I’ve just seen it kill a few folks at my mother in laws church and put one of my son’s team mates in critical condition in the hospital with a heart condition. Other than my personal experience, it doesn’t really matter to anyone else how I feel about it.
 
91bravo said:
I’ve just seen it kill a few folks at my mother in laws church and put one of my son’s team mates in critical condition in the hospital with a heart condition. Other than my personal experience, it doesn’t really matter to anyone else how I feel about it.
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Sorry to hear that, that's always hard. So do you think there will be a rash of deaths in the next 5 to 10 years? Why do you think that time period instead of now?
 
unwisefool said:
Sorry to hear that, that's always hard. So do you think there will be a rash of deaths in the next 5 to 10 years? Why do you think that time period instead of now?
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Its ok, it’s tough and makes me wonder what would have happened if they didn’t get vaxxed. It’s already happening now. All you have to do is look to the studies conducted in Israel and Australia. Information that MSM doesn’t want you to know. Data points to covid being the disease of the vaxxed right now. By now, folks have their mind made up on this issue and nothing is going to change that. It’s divided this country like I’ve never seen in my lifetime.
 
91bravo said:
Its ok, it’s tough and makes me wonder what would have happened if they didn’t get vaxxed. It’s already happening now. All you have to do is look to the studies conducted in Israel and Australia. Information that MSM doesn’t want you to know. Data points to covid being the disease of the vaxxed right now. By now, folks have their mind made up on this issue and nothing is going to change that. It’s divided this country like I’ve never seen in my lifetime.
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I know a bunch of my friends, who are vaccinated, are waiting to get their children vaccinated until they see longer term studies. My son is too young so I don't have to make that choice right now. Do the studies you referenced include the J&J vaccine or are they focused solely on the mRNA versions?
 
unwisefool said:
I know a bunch of my friends, who are vaccinated, are waiting to get their children vaccinated until they see longer term studies. My son is too young so I don't have to make that choice right now. Do the studies you referenced include the J&J vaccine or are they focused solely on the mRNA versions?
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Solely the mRNA ones. My 2 sons won’t be getting them, and neither will Jeannie or I. My daughter got the vax because she graduated from nursing school and is working in a local hospital now. She’s a grown adult and makes her own decisions, as should be with everyone. Not forced. If you’re healthy, no need to worry. If you have underlying or medical diseases that run in your genes, then I would consider taking the shot.
 
unwisefool said:
What exactly do you both hypothesize might happen to those that have gotten the vaccine?
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Well since the doctor who created the MRNA vaccine Dr Malone said people are going to have a bunch of bad reactions from it then I wouldn't really call it a hypothesis. Every animal that was studied with these vaccines died. Doctors have been reporting cancer rates are up, neurological rates are up a thousand percent, heart conditions have been up 500%. So I don't know what you think of hypothesis is in this situation because what I'm speaking is 100% fact
 
Relics_and_rags_co said:
Well since the doctor who created the MRNA vaccine Dr Malone said people are going to have a bunch of bad reactions from it then I wouldn't really call it a hypothesis. Every animal that was studied with these vaccines died. Doctors have been reporting cancer rates are up, neurological rates are up a thousand percent, heart conditions have been up 500%. So I don't know what you think of hypothesis is in this situation because what I'm speaking is 100% fact
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Can you point me to a study or anything that shows this? Thanks!
 
unwisefool said:
I know a bunch of my friends, who are vaccinated, are waiting to get their children vaccinated until they see longer term studies. My son is too young so I don't have to make that choice right now. Do the studies you referenced include the J&J vaccine or are they focused solely on the mRNA versions?
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Take the time and watch this whole video with Senator Ron Johnson

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Sen Johnson Vaccine hearing with top doctors…

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knarfeng said:
Robert Malone did some of the first work in mRNA vaccine development and holds patents in that technology.

If anything, the VAERS data is conservative. According to testimony presented before the Texas Legislature, many GP doctors are not aware of its existence. There are multiple reports of how laborious and time consuming it is to file a report in VAERS. Both of these limit the number of reports that are filed. Plus, only issues which can be temporally tied to vaccination get reported. It's been found that the vaccine components stay in the body for some 6 months. Issues that arise that long after the vaccination won't be reported to VAERS.
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Apologies, but the idea that VAERS data is conservative is the farthest thing from the truth. Doctors are required by law to report any potential side effect to a vaccination to the VAERS system. It's also extremely easy to do and can be done through their website. The entire purpose of VAERS is to gather information on basically ANY adverse event following a vaccine, so they can identify patterns. I encourage you to look through VAERS reporting and you'll see symptoms like broken limbs, that it's laughable to connect to the vaccine, reported along with more believable side effects.
 
ajvail18 said:
Take the time and watch this whole video with Senator Ron Johnson

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Sen Johnson Vaccine hearing with top doctors…

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Is it about athletes?

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Video: Ron Johnson pushes conspiracy about athletes' responses to Covid vaccine - CNN Video

CNN's Chris Cillizza fact-checks the entirely false claim pushed by Republican Sen. Ron Johnson that athletes have been "dropping dead on the field" due to the Covid-19 vaccine.
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Insipid Moniker said:
Apologies, but the idea that VAERS data is conservative is the farthest thing from the truth. Doctors are required by law to report any potential side effect to a vaccination to the VAERS system. It's also extremely easy to do and can be done through their website. The entire purpose of VAERS is to gather information on basically ANY adverse event following a vaccine, so they can identify patterns. I encourage you to look through VAERS reporting and you'll see symptoms like broken limbs, that it's laughable to connect to the vaccine, reported along with more believable side effects.
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Robert W Malone MD

www.rwmalonemd.com www.rwmalonemd.com
I am an internationally recognized scientist/physician and the original inventor of mRNA vaccination as a technology, DNA vaccination, and multiple non-viral DNA and RNA/mRNA platform delivery technologies. I hold numerous fundamental domestic and foreign patents in the fields of gene delivery, delivery formulations, and vaccines: including for fundamental DNA and RNA/mRNA vaccine technologies.

I have approximately 100 scientific publications with over 12,000 citations of my work (per Google Scholar with an “outstanding” impact factor rating). I have been an invited speaker at over 50 conferences, have chaired numerous conferences and I have sat on or served as chairperson on HHS and DoD committees. I currently sit as a non-voting member on the NIH ACTIV committee, which is tasked with managing clinical research for a variety of drug and antibody treatments for COVID-19.

I received my medical degree from the Northwestern Feinberg School of Medicine. I completed the Harvard Medical School fellowship as a global clinical research scholar in 2016 and was scientifically trained at the University of California at Davis, the University of California at San Diego, and at the Salk Institute Molecular Biology and Virology laboratories. I have served as an assistant and associate professor of pathology and surgery at the University of California at Davis, the University of Maryland, and the Armed Forces University of the Health Sciences. For many years, my wife and I have built and run a consultancy and analytics firm specializing in biotechnology and clinical trials development.
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unwisefool said:
What exactly do you both hypothesize might happen to those that have gotten the vaccine?
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There have been heart and lung problems. There have been cases of stroke. It's well documented that many women have had issues with their menstrual cycles. There have been instances of miscarriages. There may be future cancer problems. One gentleman mentioned an instance of such earlier in this thread. Did you read the full thread?

I mentioned in a prior post that I indirectly knew two people who were reported to VAERS. They are acquaintances of my wife.
--One was a woman who was reported post mortem. She had not had covid but died a short time after her vaccination. Her autopsy revealed she had massive blood clots around her heart. She had no prior history of such.
--The other was a gentlemen who led an active life style and had no history of heart problems. He developed myocarditis within a short time of his vaccination. He will live with it for whatever period of time the Lord sees fit to give him.

My son is in his 30's. Two of his friends of a similar age with active life styles had strokes shortly after being vaccinated. They did not get reported to VAERS.
 
knarfeng said:

Robert W Malone MD

www.rwmalonemd.com www.rwmalonemd.com
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Again, apologies, but I'm not sure what Dr. Malone's qualifications have to do with VAERS. I worked in primary care as a nurse and patient care coordinator for about 10 years and I've filled out a few VAERS reports myself as well as helped patients fill them out if they felt they had an adverse event to a vaccine that we didn't administer at the office. It's a very straightforward process and they don't require any evidence other than the report that the event took place. Nobody corroborates VAERS reports, because the system is designed to identify large scale patterns that could clue them in to potential reactions to vaccines, not to scrutinize individual cases to see if they're accurate or even related to the vaccination. Anyone can fill out a VAERS report, the patient, parents, caregiver, healthcare provider, vaccine manufacturer, etc. Here's the link to the form, if you want to take a look.
 
knarfeng said:
There have been heart and lung problems. There have been cases of stroke. It's well documented that many women have had issues with their menstrual cycles. There have been instances of miscarriages. There may be future cancer problems. One gentleman mentioned an instance of such earlier in this thread. Did you read the full thread?

I mentioned in a prior post that I indirectly knew two people who were reported to VAERS. They are acquaintances of my wife.
--One was a woman who was reported post mortem. She had not had covid but died a short time after her vaccination. Her autopsy revealed she had massive blood clots around her heart. She had no prior history of such.
--The other was a gentlemen who led an active life style and had no history of heart problems. He developed myocarditis within a short time of his vaccination. He will live with it for whatever period of time the Lord sees fit to give him.

My son is in his 30's. Two of his friends of a similar age with active life styles had strokes shortly after being vaccinated. They did not get reported to VAERS.
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I read the thread, but I was specifically looking at the 5 to 10 year time frame that had been mentioned.
 
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