How do i convince my parents to let me purchase another knife

goodshepherdknives said:
hey when i was your age (im only 21 now) i had the exact same problem. 'you should put it toward your car payment' 'dont you want to go to school' ect the list never ended. my dad is a hardcore snomobiler. hes spend probably 50 grand inmy life onnew machines and upgrades and gear. but thats not my thing. my dad guilted me into spending my money on what he wished he would have spent it on if it were his money. but its not his. its mine. my argument was 1.im paying all of my bills on time 2. i have other money set aside for my future investments 3 i dont do drugs, i dont drink, i dont smoke, i dont buy more than 2 xbox games a year, i dont hire hookers, i help out around the house... what else is my money for fun supposed to go to just because you dont want to buy knives? has anyone gotten hurt? am i breaking the law? im using them at work to make money. its my passion. its what i enjoy, and you have your crap id sell in a heartbeat to buy more knives! finally now im married, moved out, and he loves his snomobiles and hes happy, and i love my knives and im happy, and im happy he is happy and he is happy im happy
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when i was younger i was pretty good with my money so i could do what i wanted with the extra. this kid i knew back in the day who i looked up to for about 5 days before he killed himself in a car crash said this to me, "fuck it your only young once"

to this day i make sure to be irresponsible on purpose with my "irresponsible bank account" would i buy a knife before i pay my mortgage or my other bills...no. but with the extra here and there when i save what amount i need to then the rest is for fun.


maybe mention to your parents you want to open a bank account and learn about money responsibly. and have your dad teach you how to save. after you have that you can say in a few weeks or am month "look dad i saved 400$ or 600$ for college/car/etc. and then you can say i have worked really hard and kept a little to the side to spend because i have saved so much. and maybe he will cave then.


just a suggestion. its a delicate topic always because until your OLD he will still think he knows whats best for you. its just a father thing i have been told.
 
jwblack911 said:
when i was younger i was pretty good with my money so i could do what i wanted with the extra. this kid i knew back in the day who i looked up to for about 5 days before he killed himself in a car crash said this to me, "fuck it your only young once"

to this day i make sure to be irresponsible on purpose with my "irresponsible bank account" would i buy a knife before i pay my mortgage or my other bills...no. but with the extra here and there when i save what amount i need to then the rest is for fun.


maybe mention to your parents you want to open a bank account and learn about money responsibly. and have your dad teach you how to save. after you have that you can say in a few weeks or am month "look dad i saved 400$ or 600$ for college/car/etc. and then you can say i have worked really hard and kept a little to the side to spend because i have saved so much. and maybe he will cave then.


just a suggestion. its a delicate topic always because until your OLD he will still think he knows whats best for you. its just a father thing i have been told.
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Yeah, thats a good idea, only problem is my dad is an accountant and he has already gotten me set up with a savings account and has me work out what to do with the money i get and all that crap(not in a bad way) hell he even makes me listen to dave ramsey with him. He says hes just not a knife guy, and he doesn't see why a 15 yr old should collect knives, my moms neutral and to the left on my side (more about getting my dad to have a serious talk about this), but ya thank your for the advice, my mom has got my dad to agree to talk about this all this weekend, and this goes to anyone else who is willing to give me advice, (not in a rude way, tho might just be me who read that last phrase weirdly) i more need advice on aspects of every day use around the house, like why its good or at least not bad for me to have a higher quality knife around, and why it would be fine and how i can prove to them that it wasn't a mistake later on. Thanks
 
I have two sons, 19 and 11.
Both had to get used to the fact that I am their father, and they don't always get what they want.
It could be that he is trying to teach you financial discipline, and I honestly don't feel bad for you at all.
Even if you are working and earning your own money, he still has an obligation to set limits for your own good.
My 19 year old is a full time student and works part time. I let him stay in my home rent free with the condition that he maintain his high academic level, and he doesn't spend money on foolish things. He currently has over $10,000 in savings.
My eleven year old earns an allowance, but I have the final say in what he spends it on. He really has worked hard around the house, and has managed to put away nearly $400 over the past few months toward the purchase of either an Umnumzaan or a Mnandi. He is actually having second thoughts because he realizes how hard he has worked and how long he has saved up. Not trying to hammer you, just giving you a father's perspective.
 
cncpro11 said:
I have two sons, 19 and 11.
Both had to get used to the fact that I am their father, and they don't always get what they want.
It could be that he is trying to teach you financial discipline, and I honestly don't feel bad for you at all.
Even if you are working and earning your own money, he still has an obligation to set limits for your own good.
My 19 year old is a full time student and works part time. I let him stay in my home rent free with the condition that he maintain his high academic level, and he doesn't spend money on foolish things. He currently has over $10,000 in savings.
My eleven year old earns an allowance, but I have the final say in what he spends it on. He really has worked hard around the house, and has managed to put away nearly $400 over the past few months toward the purchase of either an Umnumzaan or a Mnandi. He is actually having second thoughts because he realizes how hard he has worked and how long he has saved up. Not trying to hammer you, just giving you a father's perspective.
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+1 you can try to convince your dad but in the end its his call. Just because you own a few knives doesn't mean you are entitled to your fathers trust and understanding. Quite often you have to build it with responsible and mature actions.
 
15 years old with 8 knives? :confused: heck if you were my kid you wouldn't be allowed any knives except to carry one for a camping trip.
 
I'd listen to your parents. Trust me, you don't wanna go down this road. ;)
 
Kudos to you for being respectful. Here are a few suggestion:
Sell some of your other knives to finance the ZT.
Show your parents how useful a knife can be, carve/make something with it.
Ask you dad how his parents reacted to his baseball card collecting. Ask Dad how much his collection is worth, what's his most valuable card, which one he likes the most, why did he choose baseball cards to collect, etc. Why does he spend good money on certain cards, as opposed to the jobber cards. Then try to use his same logic to tell him why you want that ZT versus a cheap gas station knife. Maybe something will click in his brain about your desire to collect.
 
im fifteen and have about a hundred knives but dont have a 0200 i bought a 0350or a few weeks ago i got my first knife when I was six and my parents have accepted the fact that i will be having more. My advice is dont stop bugging them until they say yes.
 
If it's essentially their money, you're fighting an uphill battle. You can combat it with good grades and helping around the house, offers to do this or that... Is there anything they want or ask you to do that you have been unwilling or resistant to do? If they're in any way supporting your hobby, return the favor somehow. Don't argue with them, don't fight with them - calm reasoning and polite one-off requests are the way to go. Don't make demands, just express strong interest and make proposals.

Demands and arguments always go down poorly. Nobody likes a fight, nobody likes a raw deal, nobody likes caving in. Suggestions, proposals, and trades are much more likely to get you what you want. I figured that out when I was 13 - I proposed the following deal:
I get a new computer if, and only if, I completely relinquish all control over the television for one year. If I'm watching or playing something and someone wants to use the TV, it's theirs immediately. I typed it, printed it out, and had all involved parties sign and date the document. I made copies as well.
So, that's how I got my first brand-new computer.
 
Also, if your dad is worried about the financial aspect of it, consider this:

Higher-end knives, if not abused, maintain almost all of their resale value. If you shop around, you can get great deals on knives that you can later sell used and maybe even make a profit. For example, I picked up a Camo/Black PM2 on this forum ages ago. Carried it for a while, used it, wasn't super impressed, and put it up on eBay. It sold for 80 bucks more than I paid.
I bought a Manix2 XL off Amazon. Used it for a YEAR. It sold for 10 bucks more than I paid.

If you have the patience for it, sitting on a purchase until a really good deals comes along turns knives into a self-sustaining hobby instead of a money sink. It just only works with knives at or above the $100 mark, what with shipping and all ($5 shipping represents a huge percentage loss on the sale of a $50 knife.)
 
eaglemasterdan said:
IDK man, never had that dilemma, I was always aloud to have dangerous things espescially knives because they are not a weapon but simply a tool
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Parents always allowed knives. They were better than the guns I was begging for all of the time. Every time I convinced them to take me to a gun shop I almost always walked out with a knife.

They thought the more I spent on knives the less I could save for a new gun. Find your gun ( or Barbie doll) and tell them you are saving for a new one.
 
I thought the joke was hilarious. His dad is saying that knives are sneaky because the letter k is in the word, but you don't pronounce the k. You say nife.

Some pretty mature responses here, but I would say that there are two types of parents. One will appreciate work and effort, but the other will just eventually cave in if you keep asking. Mind you, asking doesn't mean whining and pouting when you hear no, but just consistently making sure that they know you aren't just in some phase and really do like and want that knife.
 
I thought the joke was funny too actually, and I love knives. I thought it was a good knife joke.
Anywaysssss... this is a tough subject matter.
Keep in mind though, no one knows YOUR parents better than YOU. So we can all give our advice but we don't know them, so any advice we give is strictly on ideas and assumptions.
My suggestion? Just show real interest. Once they realize that you just simply do love your knives and you REALLY have an interest in this as your hobby, they'll probably soften up a bit. Use the knives you have until you do get the ZT 0200, still carry one of your current ones and use them, cut everything you can, cut packages, food, etc. Use them for anything you can think of lol. Once they see that you're serious about the knife thing and are actually putting them to use, they're not just something you'll throw to the side when you find something else, maybe they'll look at it a little different.

If you see your dad struggling to open something or he has something that needs opened say "Oh dad I'll get that for you!" or hand him one of your knives you have on you and say "Here dad, use this, it's easier".
I'm 21, so I do what I want. My dad doesn't understand knives that cost more than $50, and before I got into knives he didn't understand knives that cost more than $15. But, he respects that knives are my thing and does realize the usefulness.

Also, go on telling him how amazing the ZT is because, it has said steel, this amount of work in it, said handle materials, this kind of grind, this amount of edge holding ability. If he knows you've done your homework and you know your stuff about the knife, and other knives, and your hobby in general, he'll realize how interested and serious about it you are.

I know this all seems like simple things that make no difference, but trust me, they do.
 
Well don't use the line I did it never works out, "well at least I am asking for a knife and not a gun".:D
 
Show your father that you take care of your knives and that you use them responsibly. Working around the house, the yard and on the family farm should provide plenty of opportunity to do that. The idea of buying a useful, non-threatening knife for your father is, I think, a good idea. Your father should see that knives are useful tools and that you use them responsibly.
 
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