How do traditionals compare to a Sebenza?

RedLynx said:
Someone should really let me borrow a Sebbie so I can see what it's all about. ;)
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Hope you're not disappointed. I was. It's not that special. They have no design or style. I mentioned the Prius because if you've seen one Prius you've seen every Prius. Much like the boring Sebenza.
 
First the sebenza's not about business now it's too much about business. Prius=sebenza? :lol:

I expected this thread to be in the completely opposite direction full of snarky modern folder fans...
 
Fanboys can't see the parallel. Prius owners praise the all mighty Prius like Sabenza owners do. Apple Fanboys too. None of these products are the end all they are inflated to be.
 
Oh look, Leatherman flaming Sebenzas in another thread. Awesome. :thumbup:
 
@LeathermanGX said:
Flaming is a childish attack on someone or something someone said. Not an opposing opinion of a product.
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Actually, childish is a good descriptor for making comments that were consciously designed to get a desired response. You were trolling, not posting an opposing opinion of a product. Anyway, a mod will be along any time now to tell us to discuss the subject and not each other, so I'm outta here before that happens. Just know that you're more transparent than you'd hoped.
 
Quiet said:
Actually, childish is a good descriptor for making comments that were consciously designed to get a desired response. You were trolling, not posting an opposing opinion of a product. Anyway, a mod will be along any time now to tell us to discuss the subject and not each other, so I'm outta here before that happens. Just know that you're more transparent than you'd hoped.
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Your reverse logic hurts the brain. You've not posted anything in this thread until you decided you needed to attack me for an opinion of a manufacturer. Pointing your finger at me while unquestionably trolling.
 
extrastout said:
You probably do not have a day job.........
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I know he hasn't made the most helpful comments here, particularly in regards to Sebenzas, but that's no reason to insult his work ethic man. Having said that, like Quiet said I'm sure a mod will be along with the usual, so I'll leave it at that.
 
I'm fingering my Benchmade 761 right now. It is so much more than the boring Sebenza I've experienced. I just don't get the ridiculous fandom of CRK. Medford is an expensive high quality product. Why doesn't Medford get the worship CRK does?
 
Great video. I love the end where he says, "I don't have to choose." Horses for courses.
 
Discuss the topic. Not each other.


Personally, I tend to carry both modern and traditional knives. Often at the same time.
 
davek14 said:
I am a machinist and like CNC manufactured assemblies as well. I would love to see slipjoints made with modern methods and widely available at convenience stores.
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Dean51 said:
I'm thinking some company will step in with modern machinery and techniques, produce volume, consistent quality, with newer steels and at a lower price. From a manufacturing viewpoint there is no reason why a slip joint can't be produced with modern methods at a lower price, with better quality and lower warranty costs.
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This is a pretty expensive custom, but I'll bet slipjoints like this could be made with very good steel on modern machinery pretty cheaply.

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davek14 said:
I love slipjoints for their old timey craftsmanship, but that's not the only, or even primary reason. I like a smaller knife, I like the left handed friendliness, I like the blades better suited as slicers, I usually don't like thumb studs or even opening holes, I like the non-threatening appearance, yadda. Goodness, old world crafsmanship is in there and important but not the most important thing, especially for carry at work.
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And a modern knife is great because you get more knife with better steel for the amount spent, pocket clips can be handy at times, you can disassemble and play, you can tighten the pivot, yadda.

I have a hurty to recover from with my left hand. I've been flipping a modern with my right and that one hand opening looks to be a bit convenient for a time.

De gustibus non est disputandum

In matters of taste, there can be no disputes.
 
Every time someone on the traditional forum says we have to accept new knives with gaps, poor fit, uneven finish, steel that readily rusts and cracks in covers as part of the "hand made, traditional, old tooling" asthetic I am reminded of two things. First, the truely old knives I have that have better construction, but are almost used up, if it was possible back then, why not now? Second, the almost perfect production quality of SAK, if a perfectly made slipjoint is possible, why can't it be done with other slipjoints?

Outside of Case Bose, nobody in the slipjoint manufacturing world seems to care about producing traditionally styled knives of the highest possible quality. Queen tried with the S&M ATS34 line but could not pull it off, probably due to a lack of capital for new investment. The new owners seem to be not that interested in that avenue any more.

To continue the original analogy, my Queen moose is not built as good as a sebenza, not even as good as my 70yo schrade stockman. But that old stockman is equal to a sebenza in fit and finish...it is a premium stockman so it should be. Why can't today's top of the line Queen be as good as the last age's schrade? I bet the Wright brother's turn of the century bicycles were as well constructed as today's ferrari.
 
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