how do YOU deal with gangs?

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God helps those who help themselves. So, help yourself and learn how to fight, get skilled. The concept that God is going to save you from violence simply because you want to do nothing to become skilled is a myth.

Just like God saving you in a car accident because you are too stupid to wear a seat belt? When you get to Heaven, and you ask God why he let you die, he's going to tell you, "Someone created seatbelts for your safety, you didn't get the message, did you?"

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Some of my knives and other neat things...
 
John
Wrestling has been around since you were a kid. My FATHER used to watch Gorgeous George and Killer Kowalski wrestle when he was a child and he was born in 1949.

I think parents have become too lax on their children by degrees since time began. And it has slowly escalated till now. Permit me to explain. Generally speaking, every generation seems to have been a little more leinient that its parents. My parents let me do stuff that my grandparents never would have allowed them (my parents) to do. My grandfather says the same thing about his 2 previous generations as well. Also, You have such a diverse integrated population in America, that, there will be clashes between people. True America has a high crime rate, but we are also a lot more leinient on our offenders. Also, WWF (not WFW) is supposed to be for children and their parents over 13. If you feel your child shouldnt be watching it, unplug the damn TV. When I was younger, it was Beavis and Butthead. Everything in our world in my generation that went awry was because of a crap ass Mike Judge cartoon on MTV. And before that, it was the Simpsons. Hell, I watched Homer punch "speed holes" in the hood of his car when I was a kid. But I wasnt out there the next day with a pickaxe.
Thousands of kids have killed or mangled themselves trying to fly like Superman. Especially from my fathers and older brothers generations. I didnt tie a blanket around my fool neck either. My point is, society needs to tighten its collective grip on our youth. I know its tough. My brother and his wife both work 2 jobs. Im always watching my niece and nephew. And what scares me is this: My mother who is a day care provider told me that studies are starting to show that kids who are basically raised by their daycare centers, score lower on standardized testing (which in itself is a disgusting idea..should be bastardized testing as far as Im concerned) AND these children are more apt to react violently in a social setting. In addition to all that, we're shoveling ritalin down kids throats in schools to make them quiet obedient little zombies so they are easier to handle. SOME kids DO need Ritalin. Most do not.

My generation has really screwed up. We're shooting each other and causing gang wars as well. And all the parents point at each other for their kids problems. Ive got an idea...quit getting divorces and having kids out of wedlock. It really tends to screw children up. I realize sometime these situations happen and by and large, thats okay. But the sheer number of 24+ Y/O single moms is appaling. Im the only one in my circle of friends whos parents arent divorced. And every friend admits it screwed them up. And they all say they wont get married as fast so their kids dont have to go through it too. Its not TV John, Its the parents who arent home to spend time with their kids, to maybe sit down and watch wrestling with them and make them see that its all TV and its really just a male oriented soap opera. And that powerbombing your friend through a table isnt a nice thing to do. My dad has worked 16hour days for as long as I can remember. He hardly ever slept. but he ALWAYS made time for me as a child and I know that made a difference. Im an Eagle Scout, a member of Mensa and I have a 3.8gpa in college. I credit most, if not all of that to a damn good upbringing by my parents. And to those of you here with divorced parents or single moms...You all seem to have done well for yourselves and you should be proud

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sorry this is so long...feel free to edit the hell out of this if need be I appologize. Feel free to disagree if you like, just please be nice. This is only my opinion and IKm not saying anyone of you is wrong. I do not mean to offend anyone (especially you John)
 
I think the best practical way to deal with gangs is to avoid them ,whipping out a balisong on five guys who may have guns just ups the danger level .Most people dont have the skills to use a knife in combat ,then if you use it you will face the law also .Best thing to do is avoid fights and stay in groups ,ther is always safety in numbers

TJ
 
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Ever sense this World Federation of Wrestling began, there seems to be a few guys going around just looking for someone to take them on. </font>

The WWF causes street violence? Now that's just silly.

Troll hunting,

Razor

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The third most beautiful thing (other than women [no, that's not sexist]} is a lighter-gun. Freaks them out all the time. You see, if you act like them, and they step right into your face, try popping out one of them.

The other funny thing to do, is pop out a balisong and a paratrooper knife. They both look intimidating and if you can't scare them, remember that you are holding dangerous weapons.

If there are like 4 or more, keep a straight, stern face. If they make eye contact at you, do the same, hold it for about 3 seconds, then walk off. When you walk off, do NOT look anywhere, look forward, and act unafraid.

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[This message has been edited by Riallin (edited 06-24-2001).]
 
Large groups warrant that special attention that a knife just can't give. Thats when Mr Baseball Bat likes to play. Or even Mr. Cane if Mr.Bat can't be in attendance due to concealability.
Bob
 
Brandishing a fake gun is iffy. Another version of shooting to wound, or firing warning shots; both are no-nos in a true life or death situation. Assuming this post to be valid, take a course in self defense for the street. This involves more than just the physical aspect of things, and will/should include things such as your mindset, how you present yourself in a given situation, and avoiding confrontations if possible (I know that may be difficult, and no, it's not fair). One guy taking on several, even if he has a knife or other weapon, is still lousy odds.
 
It could be even worse if you are out numbered and so to speak "out gunned". Now a days even though I like how I can get ahold of a knife easily it sometime allows some of these "g"s to get hold of one also. It's these kind of people who ruin it for the serious ones.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">BTW, Razor, I just loved the way you dealt with those two stupid gun-grabbers back at Practical Tactical. I can't stand the combination of ignorance and self-righteousness those idiots invariably display. Give'm Hell!</font>

Thanks!
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">The third most beautiful thing (other than women [no, that's not sexist]} is a lighter-gun. Freaks them out all the time. You see, if you act like them, and they step right into yourface, try popping out one of them.</font>

This is a dangerously stupid suggestion. The first rule of lawful, effective self-defense is never, ever bluff. Waving around something that looks like a gun but isn't is both illegal and liable to get you killed.

You never, ever count on trying to intimidate anyone with anything where self-defense is concerned. Don't draw a weapon of any kind if you're not prepared to use it. And for pity's sake, don't expect toys to save you.

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">The other funny thing to do, is pop out a balisong and a paratrooper knife. They both look intimidating and if you can't scare them, remember that you are holding dangerous weapons.</font>

There's nothing more dangerous about these knives than any other knives. Again, don't ever count on being able to intimidate anyone, no matter what you're carrying.

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">If there are like 4 or more, keep a straight, stern face. If they make eye contact at you, do the same, hold it for about 3 seconds, then walk off. When you walk off, do NOT look anywhere, look forward, and act unafraid.</font>

The best way to make eye contact with street thugs is casually but directly, without lingering too long at it. This way you communicate that you are aware of the others' presence(s) but aren't looking for trouble. I do agree that the way in which you carry yourself makes a big difference in how people perceive you, and they will act accordingly.

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Well spoken Razoredj.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Riallin:
The third most beautiful thing (other than women [no, that's not sexist]} is a lighter-gun. Freaks them out all the time. You see, if you act like them, and they step right into your face, try popping out one of them.</font>

Anyone stupid enough to do this is stupid enough to be treated for multiple gunshot and knife wounds. That's harsh, but it is true.

We are talking about violent people, not Hollywood~MacGyver Fantasy.
 
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Strider:
Large groups warrant that special attention that a knife just can't give. Thats when Mr Baseball Bat likes to play. Or even Mr. Cane if Mr.Bat can't be in attendance due to concealability.
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Actually, I am very fond of Walking Canes and have two from www.canemasters.com

They are excellent street weapons.

As for the bat, the bat is slow, and the knife is faster. I would rather have a faster weapon I have to get closer with than a larger, slower weapon that gives me a slight edge in distance. The bat should be used to poke with, then swing to finish.

The Cane is much faster and I agree on that part.

I think a knife is an excellent weapon in trained hands against multiple attackers, as is the Cane. The Bat? Not so much, if it is all you have, you have to play, but I would not go into a fast moving confrontation with multiples with an inherently slower weapon. Even if it did give me a slight edge in distance. I would rather have the faster knife and close if I had to, or the faster Cane and have some distance.
 
I'm not sure about the bat being very slow anymore. I have one in my car for my sister at her softball games and it is very light for it's size. Dang expensive but other that its size I can swing it pretty freely. But still if something ever came to that I would prefer a knife. Like said it is quicker and can cause enough damage to stop someone. Lets all hope we'll never be faced to use ours like that.

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How do I deal will gangs? We have only gangbanger want-a-be's around here. Drug dealers and crack heads a plenty though!

For them, simple: Drive a camo painted truck with a high powered rifle and a sword in the back glass. Very effective, and legal as well. And walk with cofidence, but don't get cocky.
 
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We don't have much of problem with gangs out here, they exist, but not to the extent as in the mainland cities. No Black or Hispanic ones either, but many of the different Asian and Polynesian ethnic origins. Goes to show you, punks are punks, reguardless of race. I was wondering, are there gangs that bother the good citizens of Texas where it is legal to carry a hand gun, and many do?

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Don
Ixnay on the bat! I forgot about my daughters field hockey sticks. Much much faster then a bat and longer. Marvelous little implements and made extremely strong. They have replaced the bat in my car. But I kind of miss the old slugger "sigh"
Bob
 
I live in Texas, so get a CHL and a Glock. If your state does not allow that, call Charles Bronson.
 
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