How many Beckers do you have?

[Anthony_UK]

I thought I would have liked a full solid tang too, but there is a mix of heat treatment at points on the blade so the part with skeletonised area will handle forces different than blade area, so it should balance out and be just as tough as the full tang version. I do prefer the new one for the pommel and BK2 does seem to attract the nay-sayers quoting the length as its let down, but unless you are trying to chop through the stump of a mighty thick tree, it packs great punch for its weight. I mainly use it for wood processing and camp workhorse stuff, so never have the need to process huge thick wood, as smaller stuff would be better and easier to get fires going. But each to their own, but there is food for thought in why after many years BK2 is still a top, if not the #1 top, seller in BK&T lineup

Too be fair, I suspect many people buy one not knowing, (I liked the geometry of the blade, and thickness, I did hope the size would not be that much of an issue, but batoning proved otherwise (at least to me YMMV)

Not a bad knife, not the worst knife, but a compromise that I did not want,

Btw you want too see a workhorse? Check out the Ontario RD tanto, (not pimping, it's a great desgin let down buy poor quality,)

As for heat treatment, I'm no metallurgist, but I know that there has to be a mix of hard and softer metal (if the knife was temper hard across the blade it would be brittle and snap, so the softer part of the blade actually strengths the blade,) with a full tang I would expect an even balance of the defused temper, with a skeletonized tang I assume it wouldn't as it reached the boundaries, the softer metal acts like a spring/shock absorber, and as the temper to a lesser degree is bound to reach the handle (most of the time) I'm guessing it defuses in part in to the tang, and more real-estate there would help it defuse the temper in to the rest of the metal in an even way,

Outside of temper, it's simply going to be a stronger tang without the holes in it,
less metal does not make it stronger, it makes it lighter,

With a single full tang you have more area to spread the stress/load,
With a skeletonized tang the same stresses are on two thinner points, inherently weaker,
Just seems like common sense, (if there was some sort of magical mojo metallurgy at work to make less in to more I would expect every knife maker and their dog would be creating skeletonized tang blades all the time (it would also save them money on materials)

Just my 2 cents, But like I said, I'm no metallurgist,

 

[Cassrh]

Sadly, I don't have any. I want a BK 2 or a BK22, but nobody in my area carries them. Maybe one of these days....

 

[zzyzzogeton]

What does a milspec kabar bk2 look like?

I know camillus had the bk2SG, bk7SG, bk71, bk91, bk101.

It's an SG BK2 with a MilSpec number on the box label. Without the box, I'd have never known there was a MilSpec number assigned to the SG2.

 

[Gassy]

Sadly, I don't have any. I want a BK 2 or a BK22, but nobody in my area carries them. Maybe one of these days....

Plenty of online dealers.

 

[Anthony_UK]

Plenty of online dealers.

Ditto, I get most of mine shipped from the US (one of the best is Knifecenter.com (if I am allowed to say) great range of knives and stuff, but mostly knives..and great people, say hi to Kirsten, and ask if Chris has yet returned the one ring to mount doom,

I've also done reviews of a few things there)

 

[BeeKayNutCase]

...Outside of temper, it's simply going to be a stronger tang without the holes in it,
less metal does not make it stronger, it makes it lighter..

Believe it or not, removing material from certain fabricated flat shapes can actually increase strength. A la dimple die. As the compression force crosses the surface the added edges can prevent folding or tearing and adds rigidity. The physics behind it are actually very complex and I only remember a very limited amount from Engineering Science that I did in High School but what I do remember is that removing material won't necessarily weaken the shape.

Examples of removing material for strengthening:

 

[Anthony_UK]

Believe it or not, removing material from certain fabricated flat shapes can actually increase strength. A la dimple die. As the compression force crosses the surface the added edges can prevent folding or tearing and adds rigidity. The physics behind it are actually very complex and I only remember a very limited amount from Engineering Science that I did in High School but what I do remember is that removing material won't necessarily weaken the shape.

Examples of removing material for strengthening:

That's not the same thing, nor true in this case,
If for say you punch holes through the support struts in a planes wing, (or any vehicle) it is done primary to reduce weight, that it can be done is due to the direction of plane of force applied, i,e the force or stresses can only be applied from edge to edge, not from the sides where it is made considerable weaker, but the holes can be made in such a way as to reduce twisting (as is common in the picture above) or crumpling, in another wise flimsy plane,

This is not like the holes in a skeletonized tang,

 

[archertl]

4 beckers
1 bk 9
1 bk 11
2 bk 15's

 

[hhmoore]

Ummmmmm.....three, I think.

 

[Guyon]

Ummmmmm.....three, I think.

Me too. I finally counted them all.

 

[tanglediver]

The center of my tootsie-pop...

(left to right)
1, milspec 2,4,5,6,9/13

not pictured is a 15, and gave away a 17, that's 'bout it.

Beckerized pokey-monster.

 

[TravisH]

What does a milspec kabar bk2 look like?

I know camillus had the bk2SG, bk7SG, bk71, bk91, bk101.

IIRC, the 'milspec' BK2 is the Cam BK2SG. The serrations were added at the request of the military.

Here's an image from xrangerx's trade post - http://i.imgur.com/7ExnSL7.jpg

Examples of removing material for strengthening:

Actually, it's the bends in the circumference of the holes that adds strength.

 

[nutoknives]

Ah taking Bladite advise

I do not have a 5 and not sure why

 

[proton]

i have a bk10 but im really wanting a bk2. theres just something about that knife. reminds me of shamu.

 

[Chameleonbear]

i have a bk10 but im really wanting a bk2. theres just something about that knife. reminds me of shamu.

Weren't you just bitching that the BK-2 is too much knife for a kid because of the slick handles?

 

[proton]

Weren't you just bitching that the BK-2 is too much knife for a kid because of the slick handles?

you are taking my post out of context. I myself have no problem with the slick handles of the bk-2 but a kid, or anyone of minimal strength would have a safety problem with it and thus would endanger everyone around him/her. but that is another thread.

 

[Chameleonbear]

you are taking my post out of context. I myself have no problem with the slick handles of the bk-2 but a kid, or anyone of minimal strength would have a safety problem with it and thus would endanger everyone around him/her. but that is another thread.

If you don't have a BK-2 how can you be sure it isn't too much knife for you?

 

[proton]

If you don't have a BK-2 how can you be sure it isn't too much knife for you?

i have a bk-10 and a 10 is basically just a 2 but with a different shape. i know they are different but essentially they are the same.

 

[Chameleonbear]

i have a bk-10 and a 10 is basically just a 2 but with a different shape. i know they are different but essentially they are the same.

Grapes and raisins sir! The 2 is a monster in its own right. The 10 is a smaller, sweeter package!

 

[proton]

Grapes and raisins sir! The 2 is a monster in its own right. The 10 is a smaller, sweeter package!

nah. that is what they would like to have you believe. they are basically the same thing. it all comes down to the mighty dollar and marketing.