How much mineral oil can a KLVUK asare handle drink?

ndoghouse

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Test subject: One KLVUK immersed in mineral oil in a water bottle. Marked at time=zero. Volume of bottle initially contained 16 ounces of water. I completely submerged the handle to the bolster and taped it to the wall with duct tape to secure it. Lightning bolt is purely cosmetic and no steel was damaged in this test:thumbup:

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Day 1: I did not measre each volume mark on the bottle but can estimate that the first day it has already absorbed at least an ounce of oil! WOW! I will mark the wall day 2 etc. until my wife says she wants it back so let see how long she can do without it?:D
Day 2: ?
 
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I still think mine could drink more than it has. I soaked mine for 2 days it took in at least 3oz, but it was very very dry.

Cool test:) Good stuff:)
 
Soaked mine for a week and then added lanolin.
Now a week or so later it feels very dry again.
I bet there is a tiny black hole inside.
Wish I would have measured the soaked up volume for comparison.
 
I wiped it down once lightly several several days before the test but don't think it will make any appreciable difference in the test. When It stops I will measure the total displaced volume and it should give us an idea of how much it will absorb total and about how long is required to get it saturated. If the level stays about the same from here on then I would say one overnight soak will do it just fine. we will see? BTW. Does anyone know what "asare" wood is? I cannot find any information at all on it. Maybe it goes by another name here in US?
Jens: If it sucks up the whole bottle then your black hole idea has merit! That would be the 5160 black hole!
 
That's a cool test, thanks for sharing it. The wood and horn from far away are funny animals sometimes. I have a horn handle on a 18" CAK blem from a long time ago, it lifted slightly in one side. I said I'll just beat the heck out of it with hard use and replace the horn with some nice Sambar I have...fast forward to today and it has never gotten more separated! It'll last a lifetime...:)
My white Neem wood handle on my Seax loves to suck up Tru-oil.

Mark
 
I do like the Seax. There were a few of them on DOTD when i first started sharking this forum and I passed because i was looking for Khuks. Wish I would have picked one up then as I didnt know they were rare at the time. I still have about two bd ft. of Zebrawood I got from a friend about thirty years ago. I want to make a handle for my Single Fuller Chitlangi someday. I need to practice rehandle techniques on some other blades first tho.
 
ndoghouse said:
...Does anyone know what "asare" wood is? I cannot find any information at all on it. Maybe it goes by another name here in US?
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Alangium salvifolium, local name "Asare".
Source: http://tujournal.edu.np/index.php/TUJ/article/viewFile/86/83 page 80, number 3


Alangium salviifolium... In Asia Alangium wood is used in building as beams, for flooring, furniture, cabinet work, inlaying, carving, bobbins, spindles, shuttles, rice pestles, tool handles, walking sticks, gunstocks and handicraft articles. The twigs are used for brushing the teeth in India... it air dries well without checking, works well, bends easily and takes a good finish.
Source: http://database.prota.org/PROTAhtml/Alangium%20salviifolium_En.htm
 
Tests on immature male rats showed that the administration of alkaloids isolated from the stem bark resulted in a significant increase in the weight of testis, seminal vesicles, ventral prostate and epididymis.
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Maybe this is why one feels so ballsy when weilding the Khukri:D
Thanks for the link Steve. Will read more now that I got the species name.
 
Steve Tall said:
Alangium salvifolium, local name "Asare".
Source: http://tujournal.edu.np/index.php/TUJ/article/viewFile/86/83 page 80, number 3


Alangium salviifolium... In Asia Alangium wood is used in building as beams, for flooring, furniture, cabinet work, inlaying, carving, bobbins, spindles, shuttles, rice pestles, tool handles, walking sticks, gunstocks and handicraft articles. The twigs are used for brushing the teeth in India... it air dries well without checking, works well, bends easily and takes a good finish.
Source: http://database.prota.org/PROTAhtml/Alangium%20salviifolium_En.htm
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http://www.iamj.in/drugof_week/
...ANKOLA ( ALANGIUM SALVIFOLIUM)
BOTANICAL NAME...

What? Doesnt "Ankola" look very close to Ang Khola?
 
Thanks all for the Asare links. Villagers in Nepal must use all parts of this tree? Seems it has many medicinal, food, and other values. It is a light wood but very fibrous which keeps it from cracking like many hardwoods. Cool stuff. First thing I noticed about it is its shock absorption properties. Oh and its spongy suck up everything in sight characteristic.
Brought the level back up to the original mark with 1ml syringe and determined the following absorbed quantities:

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18ml​
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5ml​
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3ml​
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Total so far:drunk:​
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29ml​
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Kind of hard to see much from the photos but you get the idea I hope.

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Since the pics look the same after I bring the level up Ill just edit results into this post. My wife has been busy so she hasnt asked for her Khuk back yet so we will let it go a few more days for the heck of it. I would guess after three days it wont do much good to leave it soaking.
I think Ill take Jens' advice and go with some thicker waxier substance to seal things in after this test. Sounds like the logical thing to do.
 
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How is it soaking?
Btw. If we add so much oil to the handle will the knife's balance change? 30ml x 0.9g/ml = 27g = 0.95oz
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Shes prolly just about drunk on oil by now. If I dont get more than a ml today it will be time to abort test. Does look like it will end up being about an ounce? Guess I could have marked the balance point before and after. Then I would know when my Khuk needs re-oiling just by measuring the balance point:D Great idea!
 
I'm curious how it's gonna look when it comes out of the bath. I also wonder how much will come back out fairly quickly. I suspect you'll lose some right off.

I bet it's gonna look super good though. I may have to dip mine, I just rubbed mine in numerous times but looked at it a couple days ago and it looks like it wants more.
 
I'd stab it into a cardboard box and let the handle drain for a day or two after you're done.
 
This wood only knows one direction for the oil. No need to drain it for long.
Take it out, wipe it and thats it.
I soaked for even longer and nothing dripped out.
 
Well it sucked up another 2 ml. My wife's out shoppin so she aint choppin! Ill leave it till tomorrow and probably just wipe it off. Im thinking it will show the contrasting colors better. I would have never believed it would absorb that much oil. I bet it would take a stain really well too if you wanted to do something like that but ill leave that for the furniture makers etc. I like it natural:thumbup:
 
Bawanna said:
... I may have to dip mine, I just rubbed mine in numerous times but looked at it a couple days ago and it looks like it wants more.
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The first KLVUK I got, I applied raw linseed oil to the surface several times a day for a week, and it seemed good. A couple weeks later, it was looking just a little bit dry.

The second KLVUK I got, I submerged it in raw linseed oil for a good four days. (And I thought I was overdoing it.) When it came out, it looked saturated, like a sponge. I let it stand upright for a couple days and a little bit oozed out from the pommel (maybe from some voids). A couple weeks later, it was looking just a little bit dry, but I know there's a good amount of "dried" oil in there protecting the wood.

I'm interested to see how all that mineral oil affects the Asare wood. I've hesitated using mineral oil on wood handles because it was my impression that it doesn't really "dry" (polymerize) like linseed oil, and I heard that it can work its way back out, maybe giving a noticeable oily surface on the wood. So, please keep us updated, ndoghouse.
 
Yeah I also used linseed oil. I didn't submerge mine but I just a few minutes ago looked at mine and it seems to desire more nourishment. I might dunk it this weekend and see how that works out.
 
I may try the linseed oil on my next KLVUK. Gotta wait and shark another one tho. Would be a good comparison over time to see how they hold up. I think Ill try my 25" Siru next but I would be very surprised if the satisal soaked up that much oil. Thats good tho because I dont think I could go 5 days without using it:D That blade is definitely gotten more use than any other blade in my collection cept my Kag Kat but its horn.
Bawanna said:
Yeah I also used linseed oil. I didn't submerge mine but I just a few minutes ago looked at mine and it seems to desire more nourishment. I might dunk it this weekend and see how that works out.
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