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How to talk mom into letting me get a spyderco I'm 13

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USS Worden 352 said:
BOOOO HOOOO, Your telling me a$$ isn't appropriate language for a 13 year old? Is that a joke?
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No, it is how you used the word ass that was graphic and over the top.

Obviously if I you can't see it and I have to explain it.. oh never mind..

People like you is why parents don't want their kids on any forum. Yes, even a knife forum
 
Seilu said:
lol, 13 year olds with knives. Don't pull out the mature argument as we all thought we were mature at 13. Even at 18, I would still consider immaturity a common thought
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I'm in my 20's and I have come to the conclusion that we mature to a point and than we stop, beyond that we only act more mature when we need to. The big difference between the 25 year old and 70 year old that I see, the older guy has had 45 more years to screw up and learn from his mistakes over the other guy so he seems wiser.

And I would say a 13-early 20's immaturity is very common. The goal should be to be mature/responsible enough for a knife.
 
It's a maturity thing. Show her you're mature.

My older bro got his first knife when he was 6. It was a fixed blade with a blade of about 3 inches. That was way back in the early 80s. We are both adults now.
 
Being responsible/mature isn't everything. Should 13 year olds be sleeping around if they're mature/responsible? Knives aren't that big of a deal, but just pointing out a rebuttle to the mature argument.

If you want a knife just find a way to purchase it yourself if you worry your mom will not let you buy one.
 
As others have said show your mature and capable of not cutting yourself. If she lets you use a kitchen knife a folder is much smaller and there are many things that need cutting. I used knives when I was the op's age for many of the same things I use them for now. Cutting string, rope, wood, opening hay bales, trimming a piece of leather. Many other things. First knife at 6 or 7, drive at 16 legally, had been driving tractors and trucks on the ranch since i was big enough to hit the pedals, 18 to vote and meet interesting people and see foreign lands with the army, 18 for beer and 21 for everything else. I did use a folder in the army opening field rations and cutting what needed cutting. Used a fixed blade as well.
 
I'm going to go against the grain and suggest that you demonstrate maturity by accepting the compromise she offered you. Be happy with the multitool (assuming it's of decent quality and enough to meet your needs). It might be the case that she irrationally believes a thing like a knife can be "bad" then there's nothing you can do about it. She's your mother and she's looking out for you in the best way she knows of. Learn to use the multitool AS a tool, to do what you need to do. I kind of get the feeling you want a particular knife because you irrationally want one when you already have what you need.

I would even go so far as to say you should thank her for buying you something. It's more important in life for your mother to believe in you, than it is for you to have any particular pocket knife.
 
Speak rationally. My Grandpa gave me my first knife at 6. I used it all the time fishing and hunting and cutting any box I could get ahold of. Kept growing my collection until I had my apex of knives at age 17. Had around 70 blades. Gradually sold or gave some away now I'm 19 and have about 20 blades left. I spoke to my parents rationally and told them what i was going to use my knives for and addressed any of their concerns.
 
As a 16 year-old student in high-school, I've spent a lot of time around my mom, especially being that my parents are divorced. One thing I would like to suggest to you is to look at collecting knives as a privilege. What your mom says is final, period. Don't argue with her, as that will make the situation and your chances of getting a knife even worse. I'm very fortunate to have a mom that allows me to enjoy this hobby and do it however I like. That doesn't mean I buy/sell/trade knives without letting her, because that would be abusing the privilege that she's allowed me to have in the first place. Before ANY purchase, she's the first one to know about it. She probably wouldn't care if I bought knives without letting her know as long as the money was mine, but I make sure she knows I did anyways. It's a trust thing between her and I. Slowly build up that trust and show your mom that you're capable of owning and using a knife in a safe and responsible manner.

My mom is even considering letting me drive down to Blade Show with a friend this Summer. I'm assuming she won't, but that's a huge example of what trust is capable of letting you do. Most parents wouldn't let their kids leave the town they inhabit.

-Daymon :)
 
colubrid said:
No, it is how you used the word ass that was graphic and over the top.

Obviously if I you can't see it and I have to explain it.. oh never mind..

People like you is why parents don't want their kids on any forum. Yes, even a knife forum
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Your right the word ass is so graphic, I just turned my fruity looms into a fudge factory. If you think the word ass is graphic, then your an idiot. I couldn't care less about some up tight mom who doesn't want their "little baby" to talk about knives on a forum. Quit being pathetic and join the real world, the word ass is the least of our problems. Have you ever been in a school bathroom?
 
cricketdave said:
As others have said show your mature and capable of not cutting yourself. If she lets you use a kitchen knife a folder is much smaller and there are many things that need cutting. I used knives when I was the op's age for many of the same things I use them for now. Cutting string, rope, wood, opening hay bales, trimming a piece of leather. Many other things. First knife at 6 or 7, drive at 16 legally, had been driving tractors and trucks on the ranch since i was big enough to hit the pedals, 18 to vote and meet interesting people and see foreign lands with the army, 18 for beer and 21 for everything else. I did use a folder in the army opening field rations and cutting what needed cutting. Used a fixed blade as well.
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How long were you in the army? What years?
 
USS Worden 352 said:
Your right the word ass is so graphic, I just turned my fruity looms into a fudge factory. If you think the word ass is graphic, then your an idiot. I couldn't care less about some up tight mom who doesn't want their "little baby" to talk about knives on a forum. Quit being pathetic and join the real world, the word ass is the least of our problems. Have you ever been in a school bathroom?
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I have. It's not the most pleasant of places.
 
Peak_Oil said:
I'm going to go against the grain and suggest that you demonstrate maturity by accepting the compromise she offered you. Be happy with the multitool (assuming it's of decent quality and enough to meet your needs). It might be the case that she irrationally believes a thing like a knife can be "bad" then there's nothing you can do about it. She's your mother and she's looking out for you in the best way she knows of. Learn to use the multitool AS a tool, to do what you need to do. I kind of get the feeling you want a particular knife because you irrationally want one when you already have what you need.

I would even go so far as to say you should thank her for buying you something. It's more important in life for your mother to believe in you, than it is for you to have any particular pocket knife.
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On the money.

My mother would of thrown a shoe at me for asking.

I kept mine hidden, but in a way that kind of taught me some responsibility, not to act a fool with knives.
 
You may want to bring your mother to a store that sells the knives you like. Show her how they lock, how they clip to your pants, and any safety features. You may even have to compromise with your mom, like only carrying it when you're camping, or when she's with you etc.

Good luck.

Ps- I owned my first knife at 8 or 9 years old. Made a lot of little wooden carvings with that thing.
 
Honestly I think it just depends on the kid. I am 14 now and got my first knife when I was about 4. At 13 I was already using large choppers and balisongs. On the other hand I have a cousin that is about 2 weeks older than I and he is accident waiting to happen. He does not pay attention to what he is doing, doesn't think things through (threw an arrow at me a while back), and does not take care of the few knives he has left. So in the end, age really does not matter at much as responsibility.
 
Baby steps. Prove you're responsible with the knife on the Leatherman. Spydercos have a "weapon" look to them, so maybe find a more "traditional" looking knife like a Buck 110 or Victorinox Pocket Pal and request it for a Birthday or Christmas, and go from there. If she still says no, prove your maturity by not pressing the issue and asking for something else.
A personal note: at 13 I got a slip joint Schrade and was irresponsible with it, and my Dad took it away. I wasn't allowed to own a knife until I got a job at 16 and bought my own and you know what? I had it coming.
 
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