How tough?

allenC said:
Yes, the Buck 110 was not the right tool for the job, and it failed....no big surprise, right?

Next time you try it ..... just hit the blade.:D

However, both the CRKT S-2 and the Camillus Marlin Spike were subjected to the same treatment and they survived.

Just some food for thought.
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I once used a piece of rusty sheet metal to baton through
a refrigerator door to see if the light was still burning after the door was closed.....the sheet metal failed..... sorry no pics.:D
 
BTW, that CS Recon was 5/16" Carbon V which is basically 50100-B/0170-6 steel. That knife should not have failed, but it did. Compare that to a Buck 110 for strength and you can see that batoning a 110 is a low percentage survival tactic. It would be wise to find an option for which that knife design has a better probability of success.
 
IF I were in a survival situation I would want a blade that stays sharpest longest!!!
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Interesting.

Personally, in a survival situation, I would want a blade that is easy to sharpen with about any smooth rock I could find.
IMO, that's one advantage Buck's 420 steel has over harder steels.
 
Funny that everyone's talking about this stuff. I was in a survival situation last night. Mr. T and I had to butcher a donkey with a dull Buck 110 before time ran out. It was a pretty dicy situation but suffice it to say that the knife caught fire and the experience brought us closer together.

Please respect my decision not to give further details.
 
wh4f said:
Sweet! thank you!
I just bought my first Buckcote/ionfusion EDC 110 user 4 days ago...
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Jimmy Crack Corn...
Did you get that Buff stag on that auction site?
Got pics?

BTW, some peeps on this thread need to order a decaf ;)
 
This is not about abusing a Buck but pretty close...About 15 years ago my father-in-law and I were hunting wild boar in Northwest Arkansas. He shot a boar..about 150 lbs...and we walked up to it and chatted about the shot and getting the boar out of there for about 20 minutes. He strung up some rope over a branch and went over to the boar....He stuck a Buck Pathfinder...a pretty nice knife...in the boars neck to raise it up and let it bleed out before gutting it. The boar squealed..I can still hear that sound...got up and ran off with his knife....We never saw either again.....swear to God....lol

We looked for it or the knife until dark and gave up...went to McDonalds for dinner in Springdale...the one with the plane crashing thru the roof.
 
EEE,
Dont leave us hanging like that, did you eventually get inside the fridge and...was the light still on??!!! I gotta know!!:D

What a way to loose a knife! Great story T-bag! :thumbup:

FWIW, our 420hc is not as soft as this thread would have you believe. We get some pretty decent rockwells out of it.
The more stories I hear, the more convinced I become that it is more a matter of how you use a particular blade, than if it rockwells at 58 and change or 61. Blade shape, edge geometry, even blade finish all contribute more variables to the discussion.
Dont ask me which is best, try diferent ones out and decide which works best for you. Then, try not to knock your fellow knife user for his blade of choice. No looking down our noses at those that prefer a certain blade steel/grind/shape/finish, over the one we like and use. :grumpy:

Right now I am making a cool (to me anyways) machette. It will be the perfect (to me anyways) survival tool, (my definition of survival that is) and I will lug it around with pride, ignoring the cuts and blisters I am sure it will give me. It rockwelled at 60, which is normally way too hard ( my humble opinion ) for a machette, but I wont do the things that would cause harm to it with it being so hard. I gave it the perfect edge, ( for me) and will give it the best handle ( for my uses ) and I wouldnt trade it for any other.
Now imagine if everybody did the same thing only they elaborated on everthing I put in parenthesis. You could have a thousand knife users go through this exercise and you would end up with a thousand diferent looking machettes. Some would not even be machettes for that matter.
I gaurantee that a picture of the one I am making, if i posted it in a survival forum thread, would cause redicule but I also know that would only be because their definitions and uses are vastly diferent than mine.
And I'm cool with that! :)
 
Hey Jim,
I did not mean to imply that you were knocking anyone. I really shouldn't type anything so late in the day, my brain seems to shut off before the timeclock says its time to go. :o

I also like real world tests. I know that results with vary infinitesimally, (if that is even a word), but there is always some useful information to be gleened.
A test where they blow up a couple knives with hand grenades is useless, IMHO. To pick up the pieces of the knives after such a "test" and then hope to draw any useful conclusions is rediculous. "hey, I found bigger pieces of knife A than knife B. Therefore, knife A is better".
Of course, if you just like to wreck stuff, and I do, then go for it. :D
 
Joe Houser said:
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Of course, if you just like to wreck stuff, and I do, then go for it. :D
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Yeah, I used to build plastic model ships, make a deeper puddle out of an existing mudhole, float the ship and whoop on it with a (choose one):
slingshot
lighter fluid
firecracker
dead cat

Anyway, I forgot if Revell or Tamiya used better plastic. I should've paid more attention to the size of the fragments.

Pillock Goose.
 
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