http://www.knifetests.com/ not kind to BK9 Knife

knifetests.com is unfortunate proof that any fool with a camera and the ability to purchase a domain name can fancy himself an expert and will find plenty that are uninformed enough to agree with and defend said fool's imaginary expertise.

It is an unintended commentary on the internet and the fact that so many of us out there are so easily led around by the nose.
 
Ethan Becker said:
Well he does appear to be enjoying himself and I suppose it keeps him off the streets and out of the bars........
ethan
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and he did have to buy that knife ;) no freebies.

bad science is bad science though. anyone with a vise and a bar can break a knife. sooner, or later ;) watch, i'll let my assiant Beaker demonstrate flying shrapnel... *meep meep meep*


Bladite
 
Poor Beaker.

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Bladite said:
and he did have to buy that knife ;) no freebies.

bad science is bad science though. anyone with a vise and a bar can break a knife. sooner, or later ;) watch, i'll let my assiant Beaker demonstrate flying shrapnel... *meep meep meep*
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If more makers were to follow this lead and also not warranty his abuse, sooner or later noss4's friends would tire of supporting his "habit" and this controversiality and grandstanding would come to it's demise. Then preference and word of mouth can prevail again without distorted views on what a knife should be used for and accomplish.
 
Agreed, I also saw the BK 9 test and I said to myself, "Gee, I want to break a cinder block with my knife too, I may have to do that one day!" I got my BK 9 and I really the balance and feel.
 
Karda said:
If more makers were to follow this lead and also not warranty his abuse, sooner or later noss4's friends would tire of supporting his "habit" and this controversiality and grandstanding would come to it's demise. Then preference and word of mouth can prevail again without distorted views on what a knife should be used for and accomplish.
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My suspicion is that noss4 would conduct the tests no matter what. If you go back and look at his earliest posts here, you see quite clearly he revels in the attention. Now, he's built up his own "brand" complete with logo and a website and a bevy of followers. Believe me, he'll pay for the knives to keep this image going.
 
Phil, you should really try out some of the knives Mr. Becker has designed if you haven't already. The BK-9 feels very lively in the hand for some Arnis drills I normally do with folders and smaller fixed blades and the BK-11 is unobtrusive for pocket or neck carry.
 
I'll agree also here, the tests are nowhere near scientific, as far as toughness goes, lets use a Ranger RD7 for example, this one failed in Noss's test, however, around here it preformed beautifully, it did tons and tons of yard work, cutting chopping, you name it, still held its edge very and extremely well, next it went into home remodel demolition, and still held its own, this included taking out a brick wall, and cutting through nails, although this wasn't maybe the right thing to do, and while maybe it wouldn't support him standing on it, as far as a tool and a blade, it preformed well above average, and I would never hesitate to buy or endorse a Ranger blade...
 
thombrogan said:
Phil, you should really try out some of the knives Mr. Becker has designed if you haven't already. The BK-9 feels very lively in the hand for some Arnis drills I normally do with folders and smaller fixed blades and the BK-11 is unobtrusive for pocket or neck carry.
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I had a BK-7 at one point, that I sold to a friend who needed it. I'm a big fan of the Becker line based on my experience with that knife.
 
Guyon said:
My suspicion is that noss4 would conduct the tests no matter what. If you go back and look at his earliest posts here, you see quite clearly he revels in the attention. Now, he's built up his own "brand" complete with logo and a website and a bevy of followers. Believe me, he'll pay for the knives to keep this image going.
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His own brand?... of what?
Nonsense?

If he has to buy the knives in the first place and then has to personally eat each and every one because by the abuse it is non-warrantee-able....that ought to at least slow him down a bit, or make him rethink some aspects of his testing.
 
most knives are donated to him,in the beginning of his videos he says this knife was
donated to me by such in such,some he says he bought.he's not my standard
for buying a knife.I feel sorry for people who do use him as a standard.but if some nube watches his vids and is swayed from buying some cheep pakistan crap or the old fake rambo knife that the blade is held on by a 1/4'' nut,I say fine!
 
Sure, Noss's tests are not scientific, but he has never claimed them to be.
In real life when a soldier uses his knife to pry open crates, open hatches, chop wire, cut cable, free his traped buddy, smash plexiglass, or just combat in general it is not scientific.
Noss tries to replicate real world use in his own workshop, sure its not perfect but it does wean out the weak from the strong.
Certain results of the tests are irrefutable, like when a $9 .098 thick mora shows equal strength to a beautiful $300 .255 thick beast.

Most of his knives are not donated, some are like the Busse's which were actually sent back after testing.
He buys out of his pocket almost all of the time.
He has never even tried to claim a warranty, I don't know where this assumption comes from that he tries to get a new knife after beating one to hell.

I respect Mr. Becker very much, he is a hell of a good guy and a hell of a knife designer; I love Becker knives.
The bk9 didn't do well in the test, I blame the steel because 0170-6C always was abit brittle in bigger blades.
However, Ka-bars 1095cv has great lateral and mechanical toughness in a design that doesn't have stress risers.
If a new Becker is tested I believe it will do much better then the Camillus example.

Oh, I know knives are for cutting and am a wilderness type that loves to sit down and carve, hunt, learn bushcraft skills, or make traps.:D
 
That douche-baggery casts hockey masks in a bad light.

The only knife tests that should be performed in a hockey mask are those upon summer-camp counselors. ;)
 
well, If I was a soldier, Instead of using a knife to hack thru a cement or brick wall, I'd use the butt of the knife (if it has a metal pommel), my gun, or.. a tank!
 
macgregor22 said:
Noss tries to replicate real world use in his own workshop
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This statement is so off base it's comical. I'm sure plumbers ran out and all bought FFBMs when they discovered that the knife "tested" by The Great Hockey Mask could shear through a metal pipe. Short of peeling an apple or cutting some strapping, The Great Hockey Mask does very little "real world use" in his destructions.
 
my real world tests of a blade:

- chopping saplings to make shelter
- making shavings for fire starting
- chopping small branches for firewood
- portioning meat
- chopping veggies for the stew pot
- slicing cheese, bread, hot gypsy salami
- opening boxes
- cutting tape
- cutting rope
- cutting fabric
- splitting stakes for markers

etc etc etc etc etc

I'm curious as to which world the knifetest.com guy lives on? i would like to see the urban environment that requires him to chop cinderblocks or steel plates. Must be a real life threatening situation to be abusing your knife like that.

yes i'm being sarcastic
 
macgregor22 said:
He has never even tried to claim a warranty, I don't know where this assumption comes from that he tries to get a new knife after beating one to hell.
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Maybe from his own statements?

noss4 said:
We well see I will send the knife back if it fails and see what happens.

I am also sending back the Cold Steel Bushman and K-Bar 14 1/4 Bowie We will see what happens. I'm boxing them up now with full info on What I did with them. Video links etc. and my testing results. I will hide nothing. I will do this on all future knife tests. I will post full results. people can make up there own mind on how a company will truly stand behind there knives.

I will do this with the k-Bar USMC and the Becker BK9 . Also I posted days ago I was doing a test on these knifes. the was no CRYING then.
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