Hunters. I would like your opinions on these pictures

Here's everything I know about hunting feral pigs:

http://www.wesjones.com/hogswild.htm

It's a good article - describes the basics of hunting pigs with dogs:

"Dog guys chase and capture hogs using packs made up of three categories of dog. The first, trail dogs, have good noses to find and follow the hog. The second, bay dogs, cause the hog to "bay up" -- to take a defensive position, often at the base of a cliff or a tree -- and then they hold him there by barking and making quick countermoves when the hog tries to dodge away. The loud baying of these dogs also helps the hunters, who are running along behind, to locate the fight. The third, catch dogs, attack the hog while he's bayed up, bite him on the nose or ear, and hang on. While the hog is thus preoccupied, the hunters (several, usually) arrive, go behind the hog, grab his hind legs, and throw him on his side. Wild hogs are flat-sided animals and, once tipped over, with a hunter atop them, cannot easily escape. The hunters then tie the hog's legs, or shoot it, or stick it with a knife."

The article ends with a description of a hog-dog rodeo - which is, IMO, unethical. Apparently hog-dog rodeos have been banned in most places:

"The rodeo rules call for the wild or feral hog to be prodded from a chute into a pen and then the dog – usually a pit bull – to be released to chase it down. Bolt cutters are used to remove tusks from wild boars to protect the attack dogs from injury.

With a stopwatch running, the dog must corner the pig, catch it "from the front shoulders forward" which usually means an ear or snout, then wrestle it to the ground. The fastest time wins. Usually a "release stick" is needed to pry the dog's teeth from the flesh of the squealing pig.

"I have seen these hogs after they've been put through the grinder," said Goodwin. "At a South Carolina property where hog-dog fights were held, I saw hogs who had their ears torn from the side of their heads. I saw one hog who had been bitten so viciously on the side of his face that, when he ate, pieces of corn fell through the wound."

http://www.coxwashington.com/report...tories/2006/06/16/BC_HOG_DOG16_1STLD_COX.html

I don't know if the pictures you got are after a feral hog hunt or if it depicts a hog-dog rodeo. If it's a hunt where the pig is killed as humanely as possible, it's ok in my opinion. If the pig was penned up and attacked by dogs, that's not ok by me.

my .02
 
Fieldtestornothing said:
And it's more sporting to sit in a tree stand and shoot one from 300 meters away? I've never had the oppurtunity to do this type of hunt, but I can assure you that people get tore up every year in these. My opinion is that when you put you and your pets on the line to make a kill like that, you definately feel closer to the prey. Which in my book, gives you more respect for what your doing and how you do it. Just my .02 cents though.
Click to expand...

I had seen pics of people’s boar hunting knifes, but didn’t know how they were using them. I doubt I would personally try this but it does seem like there is a more of a risk to the hunter than sitting in you tree stand. It seems to me that this is about as real as it gets. I don’t know where the bloodless painless idea of hunting came from, but it seems a lot of folks today should just cruise by their local meat packing plant and shoot them a cow there and pick it up later. I feel you need to make every effort to have as quick of a kill as possible.

hunting the short version
best case, you killing to eat
not as good
you killing for a trophy.
 
mete said:
This is hunting wild boar with a knife .You need 5-6 well trained pig dogs. These dogs track then hold the pigs while the hunter runs up and kills the pig.
Click to expand...

Naw, you can definitely get by with 3 dogs if they know what they're doing, especially if they are dogo's who know what they're doing. However, with a boar that size you would probably only need 2 dogs.
 
In my honest opinion....


It looks like a heck of alot of work for some bacon, ham, sausage, and ribs! :D
 
The third pic shows the guy holding the pig while his dogs savage it. This is causing unneccesary suffering, and insofar as the prevention of such suffering is an ethical requirement, he is behaving unethically.
 
I'm a hunter and I'm really not sure how I feel about those pics. Were they being sadistic? Is it really fair to those dogs to be used and endangered like that? Is that really the cleanest way of hunting and killing that animal? Was it for entertainment or the thrill of the hunt? And so on. I'm ignorant of the ins and outs of hog hunts so I'm not even going to try and answer those questions and I'm well aware they might sound foolish. However, they're just the ones that came to mind. Like I said, I'm not really sure how I feel about that and as I don't have all the facts to make a conclusion, I'm not going to try and figure that out.
 
jh205 said:
The third pic shows the guy holding the pig while his dogs savage it. This is causing unneccesary suffering, and insofar as the prevention of such suffering is an ethical requirement, he is behaving unethically.
Click to expand...

that was the one pic that stands out to me. Especially with the fence behind them.
 
JackBauer24 said:
that was the one pic that stands out to me. Especially with the fence behind them.
Click to expand...

Was the pig dead in this picture or still alive? If still alive its a bit over the top, but life is like that, nature itself is cruel. I am going to hunt pigs here soon and would like too with a knife. I find it more sporting than me using my gun or bow, I also plan to buy an Dogo but not necessarily for that purpose. I agree with hog hunting that way but there are always right and ethical ways, along with wrong sadistic ways. If you showed us all the pics we might have a better grasp of these people as from my point its hard to tell everything.
 
JackBauer24 said:
yeah. not my thing.
Click to expand...

IT'S LIKE SKYDIVING

YOU DO NOT KNOW IF YOUR BRAVE ENOUGH TO DO IT--UNTIL IT'S YOUR TIME TO JUMP

THE MAN THAT RUNS THE SERVICE TOLD ME 10-15% OF THE PEOPLE HE TAKES ---PANIC AND REFUSE TO KILL THE BOAR.

AGAIN--WATCH THE VIDEOTAPE--THE PHOTOS DO NOT SHOW THE HUNT.

AGAIN--IF EVERYONE WAS BRAVE ENOUGH TO DO IT---EVERYONE WOULD.

TALK TO OTHER PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF THAT HAVE DONE IT--FEW THINGS COMPARE TO THE RUSH.
 
barrabas74 said:
Was the pig dead in this picture or still alive? If still alive its a bit over the top, but life is like that, nature itself is cruel. I am going to hunt pigs here soon and would like too with a knife. I find it more sporting than me using my gun or bow, I also plan to buy an Dogo but not necessarily for that purpose. I agree with hog hunting that way but there are always right and ethical ways, along with wrong sadistic ways. If you showed us all the pics we might have a better grasp of these people as from my point its hard to tell everything.
Click to expand...

that's pretty much all the pics I can share. As I've said they aren't mine. I did find out the hog was alive adn that was "training".
 
Personally, I find the notion of "ethical hunting" a bit of a slippery concept. I can see being a bit creeped out by some bubbas getting their kicks watching their dogs ripping apart some animals. But then again, I personally like blood sports like dog/cock fighting, and found bullfighting pretty entertaining. When I was a kid, me and my friends used to collect red and black ants in a can as if it were a Roman coliseum, tossing in an occasional grasshopper or black widow for more interesting action. Stakes were smaller, but the bloodlust was the same.

And at the same time, I don't see much sport in fishing a stocked lake. Bundle of contradictions I am.
 
WILLIAM.M said:
IT'S LIKE SKYDIVING

YOU DO NOT KNOW IF YOUR BRAVE ENOUGH TO DO IT--UNTIL IT'S YOUR TIME TO JUMP

THE MAN THAT RUNS THE SERVICE TOLD ME 10-15% OF THE PEOPLE HE TAKES ---PANIC AND REFUSE TO KILL THE BOAR.

AGAIN--WATCH THE VIDEOTAPE--THE PHOTOS DO NOT SHOW THE HUNT.

AGAIN--IF EVERYONE WAS BRAVE ENOUGH TO DO IT---EVERYONE WOULD.

TALK TO OTHER PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF THAT HAVE DONE IT--FEW THINGS COMPARE TO THE RUSH.
Click to expand...

I don't need to try it to know it's not for me.
 
shecky said:
Personally, I find the notion of "ethical hunting" a bit of a slippery concept. I can see being a bit creeped out by some bubbas getting their kicks watching their dogs ripping apart some animals. But then again, I personally like blood sports like dog/cock fighting, and found bullfighting pretty entertaining. When I was a kid, me and my friends used to collect red and black ants in a can as if it were a Roman coliseum, tossing in an occasional grasshopper or black widow for more interesting action. Stakes were smaller, but the bloodlust was the same.

And at the same time, I don't see much sport in fishing a stocked lake. Bundle of contradictions I am.
Click to expand...

dog fighting? I have no restraint for how I feel about that. Please don't even compare this subject I have started to dog fighting. Dog fighting should be punishable by death.
 
I don't have a very high opinion of those who use dogs or firearms for "sport" hunting.
 
allenC said:
I don't have a very high opinion of those who use dogs or firearms for "sport" hunting.
Click to expand...

Noted and disregarded. :thumbdn:

Ever try to hit a squirrel hauling ass in the top of a tree? Or a dove in flight? I guess bear hunters should go it bare handed?
 
Fiddleback said:
Noted and disregarded. :thumbdn:

Ever try to hit a squirrel hauling ass in the top of a tree? Or a dove in flight? I guess bear hunters should go it bare handed?
Click to expand...

Allow me to explain...

Hunting to feed yourself and your family is NOT "sport" hunting in my opinion.
And there's nothing wrong with using firearms or dogs or even traps for that type of hunting.

But to me "sport" hunting, hunting for the trophy pelt or rack, or for the "adventure" of killing an animal is pointless.

As for hunting dangerous game like bears...I think it should only be allowed with nothing more modern than a traditional bow!
 
Fiddleback said:
Nice hunt! Looks like a lot of fun, and to say that isn't a sport is just silly.
Click to expand...

I agree Bro---

Boars are like HUGE rats--Serve no purpose and tear up land that cripples Livestock.

Farmers HATE them--there is no SEASON.They can be hunted YEAR ROUND(In TX).

I do not know about those photos-nor should one make judgements based on PHOTOS alone.

I can tell you it's a a lot more exciting and HARDER than hunting from a Tree Stand.(Although I'll fight to the death to perserve your right to do that as well)
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top