Hunters. I would like your opinions on these pictures

But then again, I personally like blood sports like dog/cock fighting, and found bullfighting pretty entertaining. When I was a kid, me and my friends used to collect red and black ants in a can as if it were a Roman coliseum, tossing in an occasional grasshopper or black widow for more interesting action. Stakes were smaller, but the bloodlust was the same.
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You do realise that displays of cruelty to animals in childhood is a strong predictor for the emergence of Antisocial Personality Disorder (ie. being a psychopath) in adulthood?

To be honest I think you should talk to a psychologist about your inability to feel empathy for living creatures, before that lack of empathy extends to human animals.
 
I see nothing wrong with it. I am sure hog hunting with dogs is like anything else. There is going to be a majority of people that are ethical and then there is going to be the few who are ignorant about it and make everyone else look bad.
 
fedaykincmndr said:
I'm a hunter and I'm really not sure how I feel about those pics. Were they being sadistic? Is it really fair to those dogs to be used and endangered like that?
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Oh the dogs do not mind at all, if you watch videos, their tails are wagging. A lot of the time, the hunter must restrain the dogs so he can get to the boar. They are having the time of their life, endangered or not.
 
jh205 said:
You do realise that displays of cruelty to animals in childhood is a strong predictor for the emergence of Antisocial Personality Disorder (ie. being a psychopath) in adulthood?
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I'm calling BS on this.

jh205 said:
To be honest I think you should talk to a psychologist about your inability to feel empathy for living creatures
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Such as wild boar? Deer? Cattle? Cockroach?
 
JackBauer24 said:
dog fighting? I have no restraint for how I feel about that. Please don't even compare this subject I have started to dog fighting. Dog fighting should be punishable by death.
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Punishable by death? This sounds like a PETA stance?

It seems you and I simply disagree.
 
wayne37 said:
This thread is nothing but a fishing trip. Somebody is just trying to stir the pot!
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no it's not. No trolling. I wanted to learn a little about the situation and get some insite from some people that knew a little on the subject. It has gone south now that someone mentioned dog fighting.
 
shecky said:
Punishable by death? This sounds like a PETA stance?

It seems you and I simply disagree.
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we certainly do. I'm ashamed to admit that I would prolly be violent when face to face with someone who supported and enjoyed dog fighting.
 
shecky said:
Punishable by death? This sounds like a PETA stance?

It seems you and I simply disagree.
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Well, to me PETA means "People Eating Tasty Animals", and I'm wearing leather shoes too!
But dog fighting is wrong IMO and those who do it should be severely punished.

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You do realise that displays of cruelty to animals in childhood is a strong predictor for the emergence of Antisocial Personality Disorder (ie. being a psychopath) in adulthood?

I'm calling BS on this.
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I generally think that shrinks are full of crap, but it is true that childhood animal cruelty is a trait shared by many psychos.
It's all about them not being able to empathize with the animal being tortured.
Normal kids empathize with the animals.
 
For the record, cockfights and dog fighting are totally different! The dogs are bred and trained to fight. Fighting chickens do it no matter what, whether humans interfere or not. Its in their blood, just like the hens laying eggs. There is actually morals and ethics involved with cockfighting.
 
I'm calling BS on this.
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Do a little reading on psychopathy and you'll find out its not BS at all.

Given that an estimated 1 to 3 percent of the male population are psychopaths, it wouldn't be at all surprising if there were a few on this site. Your support for dog fighting, cock fighting and bullfighting suggests you probably are one.

Importantly, though, only a small percentage of psychopaths become serial killers. Most don't become killers, but many do become school/workplace bullies, domestic abusers etc.
 
Hmmm. I probably wouldn't hunt pigs with dogs, but I can't see myself telling anyone else not to, and I don't think it's necessarily unethical. I do think shooting from a stand at deer eating at a deer feeder is pretty damned lame, but the deer population in this country is out of control, and so I'm not sure I'd call it unethical. Lame, yes, but probably not unethical. And I highly suspect the meat in my pepperoni from lunch wasn't especially ethically raised. Purty tasty, though. So I think I'll stick with the "bundle of contradictions" stance on all this (except dog fighting, which seems indefensible to me). It's a damned hard world to be ethical in these days, anyway.
 
wayne37 said:
sure sound's like your fishing to me !
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why? because I know myself well enough to know that I don't have the stomach to watch my dogs maul a hog? Or even worse, the stomach to handle how I'd feel if one of my dogs got hurt or killed? Please excuse the analogy, but I know I wouldn't like being gay and I don't need to try that to find out. I just know. get it?

I'm not passing judgement on anyone here for anything. Well anyone besides the dog fighting guy, that's rediculous. I just wanted to hear peoples point of view. That's it, no fishing, no trolling.
 
I see my dog as part of my family, not as a hunting tool or as a form of entertainment.
 
allenC said:
I see my dog as part of my family, not as a hunting tool or as a form of entertainment.
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I totally agree with this. My dog is my constant sidekick, he comes to work with me everyday, and is right beside me as I type this. But- though he's not big enough to take on a hog, I'm 99.99% sure that he'd love it if he had the chance to go at something more his size (like a rabbit or a possum maybe). Even though he's the sweetest little guy in the world, I'm sure he'd dream about it for the rest of his life if he had a chance to shake a rat to death.

Dogs are predators, killing critters is what they're designed to do. Isn't that why dogs chase balls- predatory instinct? I doubt hog-hunting dogs need to be persuaded to chase hogs- I bet they love it.
 
allenC said:
I see my dog as part of my family, not as a hunting tool or as a form of entertainment.
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I have a Labrador that has been my Hunting/Camping dog for 8 years now. I use him to retrieve water fowl, and pheasant. He lives for it. In fact it would be more cruel for me to leave him at home.
I don't see any hing wrong with that, nor would I pass judgment on someone that used a dog to tree a possum, or black bear. I wouldn't do it, but to each his own.
 
I didn't see this as a troll post, If I had I wouldn't have responded.

Having killed a hog with a knife this weekend it was just fresh in my mind. Was it fair, no, three men ganged up on a hog and stuck it. Was it ethical? I'm sure if hogs had a say in it they would all vote no, but hogs don't have a say. Did the hog suffer? Well, considering that the next step in the process was to burn off its top layer of skin with a huge torch, gutting, and being totally cut in half, no. I think sticking it in the heart first made the process go alot smoother for the hog.

Feral hogs are not wildlife, they are habitat/crop destruction machines. If running them down with dogs is the best way to do it then so be it.

Setting dogs onto penned hogs and timing them is quite ill IMO, as are other animal fight blood sports. I don't put feral hog hunting with dogs in the same category.
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Chasing rabbits and birds is not likely to get your dog injured or killed, is it?

There's a reason those dogs in the pictures have protection on their necks...but they could still easily lose an eye or get otherwise seriously injured.
I don't care for the cages on the truck either...the dogs don't appear very happy in that picture.
 
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