I broke my Skeleton Key

Spinnerblade said:
Jerry Busse, that was great!

No blaming, no whining, no excuses, just an informative explanation of what happened to the SK and a generous offer of replacement.

The way you handled this makes me really happy to be a new Infi owner:D .Patrick
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That's just Jerry being Jerry. That's all.

This helps explain why the gun cabinet is missing other brands of knives I used to think were good blades. Now I'm having to find places to secure the next blade. It's tough having to tell the wife I have to go shopping for knife storage:D

Thanks Jerry
 
Wow, awesome way to handle this Jerry!

First, he gently points out that the thin knife bent more than 90 degrees before breaking....then he replaces it. All after the guy readily admits he pounded it into concrete and kicked it.

That's what I'm talking about!!!!
 
razorsdescent said:
Three cheers for Mr. Busse.
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Shucks!. . . .I thought you said "Three BEERS for Mr. Busse." :eek: ! ! ! ! !

. . . . I got all excited for a minute there. . . . . :(

Oh well. . . . back to the scotch!!! :thumbup:

Jerry :D
 
Did I just read this thread correctly? Did I step into the twilight zone or something? Did hell actually just freeze over???? Probably the biggest factor that lead me to Busses was the blatant and outright encouragement to beat, use, and abuse these blades. All over the place there's a bunch of proud owners posting stories and pics of cutting through car doors, hammering through coins, etc. Whenever these are posted it's nothing but thumbs up from everyone. Now that someone actually broke one (first mention I've seen of broken INFI btw) you want to crucify the guy??? I didn't see anything accusatory about the thread title, just a guy who was bummed out over snapping his INFI. Didn't start demanding a refund or a new one or anything like that. Just a :( and some pics. Most likely that's exactly what any one of us would have posted if we snapped one of ours. I'm not posting this to start a flame war or something, just was little bummed out when I read this and saw what appears to be an abrupt 180 on what I perceived to be everyone's views on INFI usage :( :( :( (Just my 2 cents FWIW, which is probably less than nothing :rolleyes: )

BTW - BIG props to Jerry for replacing the SK! :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
 
Great ending to a great story. Ever hear Busse use the term "legendary". They've moved up a notch in my books.:thumbup:
 
When I break a Busse knife out near the tip doing really stupid things with the knife.(yes it happens)

I just re-profile the tip.

When I bend a Busse knife and get a set in the blade, I just straighten the knife out again.

I do these things to find out how far I can go, to see what limits there are for me in an emergency situation.

I am confident Jerry would replace or do the re-profile himself if asked, I just don't ask.

I cheerfully settle for a approx. 30 inch overall that I can throw.Edited to add, an AK-47, very throwable

I still think a Factory re-profiled inch shorter SK would be a good knife to have.
 
Now I feel bad about sending back that certain blade that only that had a cos..... flaw (:foot:), only to turn to around beat the livin' crap out of its brand spankin' new replacement... :o
 
papathud said:
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I cheerfully settle for a approx. 30 inch overall that I can throw.

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:confused: Pics? :)

papathud said:
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I still think a Factory re-profiled inch shorter SK would be a good knife to have.
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The tape and cardboard in the shipping dept. don't stand a chance. :D
 
aaronjayl said:
Did I just read this thread correctly? Did I step into the twilight zone or something? Did hell actually just freeze over???? Probably the biggest factor that lead me to Busses was the blatant and outright encouragement to beat, use, and abuse these blades. All over the place there's a bunch of proud owners posting stories and pics of cutting through car doors, hammering through coins, etc. Whenever these are posted it's nothing but thumbs up from everyone. Now that someone actually broke one (first mention I've seen of broken INFI btw) you want to crucify the guy??? I didn't see anything accusatory about the thread title, just a guy who was bummed out over snapping his INFI. Didn't start demanding a refund or a new one or anything like that. Just a :( and some pics. Most likely that's exactly what any one of us would have posted if we snapped one of ours. I'm not posting this to start a flame war or something, just was little bummed out when I read this and saw what appears to be an abrupt 180 on what I perceived to be everyone's views on INFI usage :( :( :( (Just my 2 cents FWIW, which is probably less than nothing :rolleyes: )

BTW - BIG props to Jerry for replacing the SK! :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
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i think it was the nature of the act under wich it was broken that was a little.... akward.

if you hammer a skeleton key (the smallest, lightest, thinnest ground busse) into anything, and then kick it - i would not be suprised if it breaks.

people have the tendency to not beleive that these knives can break, or that they can be bent/dented/damaged on materials that are technically of a softer rc then the steel itself - but it takes x amount of force applied over x amount of space to break it - and it doesnt really matter where that force comes from as long as its in the right amount and concentration.

if i saw a person kicking a letter opener sized knife that had been hammered into something - i would ask them to put on a face sheild, and cover their neck with fabric of some kind.


dont get me wrong, all busse knives (except this one) have been designed to take anything a normal human body can put on it without breaking - but this one is a special case.



not condemning the action - just saying that a) its an akward and unique situation that you dont hear about often, and b) i'm really not suprised it broke.

i will say the break does look pretty crazy though - the fact that it fractured in a diagnal fashion through the blade, almost like you literally tore the tip off.
 
I have put knives in a vise and have broken the blades. I will tell you that even some of the chepest knives are hard (Almost impossible) to break in this manner. Sometimes I would have to put a pipe on the knife to get enough leverage to break the blade.

I am certain that the posters intention was to break the SK. I could care less if someone wants to break their own knife, but he shouldn't post a thread that claims it was inadvertant. I didn't like the tone of the dudes thread in the first place and I still don't like it.

What proves the point that the poster intentially broke the knife is that the broken edge was set at ninety degrees as Jerry pointed out. It would take a constant presssue to do that, not just a "kick" as the poster said. It also isn't coincidence that the poster didn't break the SK any further up the blade. If the blade was in a vise or cinder block any deeper, the poster would not have had enough strength/leverage to snap the blade.

I respect Jerry for the way he handled the situation, but for the most part, I think the HOGS smelled a rat from the very start and called him on it.


aaronjayl said:
(Just my 2 cents FWIW, which is probably less than nothing :rolleyes: )
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By the way, this is the only part of your post that I can agree with you on.


RJD
 
Look, I'm sorry if I offended anybody. That wasn't my intention. Maybe I missed something in his edited posts??? I saw it as more of someone who was bummed they snapped their INFI and no I'm not at all surprised that it snapped doing what he was doing.
 
rjd said:
I was bored at work last night and decided I wanted to see if I could throw my Rat Trap and stick it into a tree. I love that knife and carry it at work everyday, but if the knife had broken while I was throwing it at a tree, I wouldn't have started a thread saying "My Rat Trap Broke."

I certainly wouldn't expect Swamp Rat to even consider replacing the broken knife. The one thing that I learned from my Rat throwing experience is that my folder wouldn't stay locked after hitting the tree. I guess a fixed blade would be preferable for throwing. I did have limited sucess with throwing the RT underhand with no rotation.

My two cents on this matter:D
rjd
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He didn't say .... never mind, I'n not getting involved !!
 
rjd said:
I have put knives in a vise and have broken the blades. I will tell you that even some of the chepest knives are hard (Almost impossible) to break in this manner. Sometimes I would have to put a pipe on the knife to get enough leverage to break the blade.

I am certain that the posters intention was to break the SK. I could care less if someone wants to break their own knife, but he shouldn't post a thread that claims it was inadvertant. I didn't like the tone of the dudes thread in the first place and I still don't like it.

What proves the point that the poster intentially broke the knife is that the broken edge was set at ninety degrees as Jerry pointed out. It would take a constant presssue to do that, not just a "kick" as the poster said. It also isn't coincidence that the poster didn't break the SK any further up the blade. If the blade was in a vise or cinder block any deeper, the poster would not have had enough strength/leverage to snap the blade.

I respect Jerry for the way he handled the situation, but for the most part, I think the HOGS smelled a rat from the very start and called him on it.

RJD
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I'm a good friend of the guy that made this thread. Known him for over 8 years. I introduced him to these knives with enthusiasm based on what I read here. My cousin and I cousin both witnessed the event. He indeed kicked the knife. There is no foul play, and no intention to break it. He even asked if we thought it could handle a kick. My cousin said it would break, I didn't think it would and neither did the owner. He asked what we thought several times. Then said, Screw it's INFI, and kicked it. The knife snapped cleanly. Simple as that. He thought people would want to see pictures of what happened, so he posted it. He enver said anything bad about the company or even suggested returning it. We were all very impressed by the events that day. That's what it was all about after all. Showing what the knife could do.

Your bitter skepticism and inaccurate speculation is uncalled for. What I've stated here are facts. I'll rmeember that abuse is only encouraged on Busses if you don't go too far. Then you get people like you attempting to put ideas of knife breaking conspiracy and lies out to soil honest Busse buyer's names.

Regardless, thank you Jerry for being the stand up guy everybody knows you to be. Your company has my loyalty and garantee of future purchases.
 
by the way (since no ones mentioned it) - nice photography :D

very well exposed and the macro shot shows excellent detail and clarity for the size of the image, also the depth of feild is spot on with the subject of the image (broken surface)
 
Hmmmm. This thread has inspired me. I might have to go find a SK for myself. Hard to argue with a company that has that kind of customer service.
 
rjd said:
By the way, this is the only part of your post that I can agree with you on.

RJD
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RJD, you can have your opinions and judge others all you want...but damm this really pisses me off. To participate in a great community like this and then tell another member that his opinion doesn't mean squat is BS.

Get off your high horse.

Just my 2 cents.
 
I think ripping into him is not productive in any means.


After reading all these post one can see that Busse Combat cares about the people who use their knives. No one should get heat from other forum members for what they do to their knifes. GarySoneji was just testing to see how far he could take his SK.

I think ripping into him is not productive in any means. He did not badmouth the company, he just shared what he did and what happened.

Everyone has their point of view but let’s try to keep it positive!
 
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