i just bought a fake emerson for a laugh

Let’s see if we can find the right forum to talk about fakes…
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shecky said:
ANY lock may fail. But they're not likely to fail while cutting something, unless the spine is used to cut. Knives are not terribly high tech devices. Even cheap ones often perform well enough for most folks.

True, douk douks or slippies don't dismember their owners on regular basis :eek:


I think it's absolutely retarded to be such a jerk to SuroK.
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I agree, let's make peace, not harsh statements... Now where is the hippie smiley face icon?
 
severedthumbs said:
i think it is absolutely retarded that you would buy a copy of an emerson in the first place. and then to publicly post that you did here is just stupid.
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And why is someone 'retarded' for buying a fake? And 'stupidity'? the guy just asked a couple of questions.

Some people, who aren't that sophisticated when it comes to knives, don't know any better. Others who do know knives buy them for their own reasons. In Surok's case, maybe the original isn't available. In my case, I own a few fakes, just because I wanted to see what a knife style/design felt like before I spent a lot on it. If you know you're getting a fake and that's what you want, then fine. I'd rather spend $20 on a fake, then buy the original if I like it; or dump the fake and not buy the original if I don't.

I've tested/worked over/destroyed/beat up a lot of fakes in my life, just to see if a certain style or types fits me. After using & testing for awhile, a lot of stuff out there doesn't appeal to me, beyond looks, and I usually won't buy a knife on looks alone.

Cheap knock-offs & counterfeits are annoying, but fun to kill. :D

thx - cpr
 
Those that support the makers of counterfeit products are aiding and abetting. I don't agree with it for any reason. The original being too expensive is a very poor excuse, in my opinion. There are lots of non-counterfeit knives that are inexpensive and good. As far as I am concerned, purchasing a counterfeit knife is no better than buying a DVD player that some guy took out of the trunk of his car.
 
The original poster mentioned that it was 440 steel. Was that in the ebay description? If so, I doubt that it really is. After all, if they will sell counterfeits, I don't think they would have any problem lying about what the blade steel is.
 
Keith Montgomery said:
The original poster mentioned that it was 440 steel. Was that in the ebay description? If so, I doubt that it really is. After all, if they will sell counterfeits, I don't think they would have any problem lying about what the blade steel is.
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Yes, this is the same as my point about rep watches... it's been much more common in the past couple of years, but lately, "Real UNITAS 6497!" turns out very, very often to be "Real Asian Fake Movement That No One Knows How To Fix!"

-j
 
SuroK said:
its not a fake knife. its a real knife. its just a fake emerson..
i didnt ask you opinion of the knife. i wanted to know the materials.
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No one is answering because no one else has bought one. This is a good thing. It means that, for the most part, we're dealing with ethical folks here.
 
I get really upset when I go to a cheap knife store and I see he chinese knockoffs of the knives that I have in my pocket, and I wouldn't buy them. But everyone is entitled to their own opinion and choices with knives. I think it's perfectly fine to buy knockoff knives, I just personally wouldn't do it. I think that for someone like SuroK that is the right choice. He doesn't use his expensive knives and therefore they keep their NIB appeal if he ever wants to get rid of them. He won't reap the benefits of using them, but the cheap Commander would probably do just fine for a regular cutting knife.

(Btw SuroK, I just got a Commander TODAY and I HIGHLY recommend picking one up :) )

Tom
 
shecky said:
ANY lock may fail. But they're not likely to fail while cutting something, unless the spine is used to cut. Knives are not terribly high tech devices. Even cheap ones often perform well enough for most folks.
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Yeah, Shecky, those sweat shop employees that crank out five dollar wonders are every bit as knowledgeable about things like R&D, lock geometry, and mating surfaces as the brand name companies.:jerkit:


shecky said:
I think it's absolutely retarded to be such a jerk to SuroK.
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I think it is absolutely retarded to defend Cold Steel, but that has never stopped you.;)
 
I hate knockoffs and fakes. Buy what you know to be good and honest.

You will eventually forget the price you paid, but always know the quality.
 
I had a fake Commander. Mystery steel, cheap washers(which I replaced), crappy spacers(which I replaced), and cheap, weird smelling plastic handles(which gave me a rash on my chest from the dust from sanding).
Then, after all that, I found the liner lock failed the LIGHTEST spine tap you could possibly do. Even regular, constant pressure made it fail.
BUT, it did clue me in to the beauty of the Wave, so it wasn't a total waste.:)
Sold it for $3.
P.S.-for the record, it cost $35, and had no markings on it whatsoever. Probably made in China; the store was Chinese, but who knows.
 
The knife is not a "fake" or a "knockoff", it's an out and out counterfeit and no one with any respect for the knife industry should ever buy a counterfeit, ever....................PeRiOd

It would be like collecting silver dollars. You want an 1888 Morgan but can't afford it so you find someone to make a "replica" for your collection.
AND, as soon as you add the replica counterfeit to your collection.............................................YOU are NO longer a collector.
 
wolfmann601 said:
The knife is not a "fake" or a "knockoff", it's an out and out counterfeit and no one with any respect for the knife industry should ever buy a counterfeit, ever....................PeRiOd
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Counterfeits try to copy the markings as well. Knock-offs or fakes don't.
There's a difference, if you want to argue definitions.
Someone could be a counterfeit collector as well.:)
 
please buy the fake and when you use it hard make sure you have a webcam so we can see things like this::D

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stabman said:
Counterfeits try to copy the markings as well. Knock-offs or fakes don't.
There's a difference, if you want to argue definitions.
Someone could be a counterfeit collector as well.:)
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Huh??????:confused: You have confused me but that's simple to do.

Didn't Surok say that the knife in question had the Emerson markings on it?

If it did, it's a counterfeit. If it did not it's a fake copy.

Either way it's detrimental to the industry, If you want an Emerson, BUY an Emerson!!

Makes sense to me.................
 
SuroK said:
yeah the emerson logo bears a striking resemblance to the emerson logo too hahah lol
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I missed the humor in the above statement.

Again, counterfeits suck in all industries.

If it's a "replica" and you have the permission of the original Maker, designer or whoever holds all the rights; that's OK in my book.
But to use the marking of someone else is not funny, not ethical, not honest, and not indicative of a true blue knifeknut:grumpy:
 
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