I think it is time spyderco did something about this locking system.

I just had my brother who's 6-3 and 240 pounds jab my Pacific Salt into this chestnut tree as hard as he could and the knife is just as tight as it ever was. What more could you want from a lightweight 45 dollar knife that is rust-proof?
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spyderco is one of the best companies out there, I have had a bunch of em, currently a para and I cant say anything bad about them. If you dismiss their products because of these claims you are loosing out on a great knife, great company and a great warranty. Honestly I like BM alot too but I think I like spyderco more.
 
all of my spyderco lockbacks do this when ~15-20lbs of pressure is put on the edge. it seems to me that it is the result of the lock adjusting itself, tightening if you will, to support the increased pressure. IIRC spyderco has commented on this saying that it is working as intended and is in fact the strongest lockback geometry they have come up with. that being said, I've beat the hell out of my spyderco lockbacks and I've never had one even hint at failing. I've even put enough pressure on my Endura 4 to cause some nasty dents in the edge (trying to cut a steel wire in an emergency) but the lock never budged a millimeter after the initial adjustment. As long as you know its going to adjust slightly when you being to apply more pressure, it shouldn't cause you any problems, and in my experience the spyderco lockbacks are very strong.

edit: on a site note, the tri-ad lock is ingenious IMO, but I wish it was being offered by another company. I'm honestly not interested in Cold Steel's AUS8a steel, and it will be a cold day in hell before I would pay their outrageous prices for their San Mai offerings. For that kind of dough I could get a much nicer knife.
 
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jill jackson said:
I just had my brother who's 6-3 and 240 pounds jab my Pacific Salt into this chestnut tree as hard as he could and the knife is just as tight as it ever was. What more could you want from a lightweight 45 dollar knife that is rust-proof?
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Being able to take it apart would be nice..
Or at least being able to adjust the pivot screw..

Paying $45 for a riveted cheap plastic handled knife, is something I would never do. :cool:
 
nothing wrong with spydercos lockback! and I am glad the salt series DOES NOT HAVE SCREWS OR STEEL LINERS OR ANYTHING THAT IS EXTRA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is a basic no maintenance what so ever knife line that works!:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
 
the kid said:
Being able to take it apart would be nice..
Or at least being able to adjust the pivot screw..

Paying $45 for a riveted cheap plastic handled knife, is something I would never do. :cool:
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Most of the cost of that knife is in it's totally rust proof build.
It's hardly a cheap knife and people that use them hard have been more than pleased with it, myself included.
If you think 45 dollars is a lot of money for a knife you aren't going to get much.
 
the kid said:
Being able to take it apart would be nice..
Or at least being able to adjust the pivot screw..

Paying $45 for a riveted cheap plastic handled knife, is something I would never do. :cool:
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The pacific salt is an excellent knife, and spyderco's H1 is amazing. If you'd swear off spyderco's knives based on someone else's comments on the internet, without ever testing one out for yourself, then the only person losing out is you. FRN makes an incredibly strong, grippy, lightweight and resilient handle. The H1 steel, FRN handle, and Stainless hardware make the Salt series the closest thing to maintenance-free that you can find in a folding knife. If you can find another truly rustproof knife on the market for under $45 then chances are its made of 420j and stamped "Pakistan":barf: It would be nice if it had screw-together hardware, but considering it's high quality maintenance-free construction and materials that's a minor complaint at best. Screws get loose and pivot screws need adjusting. Solid stainless pins are stronger and require zero maintenance, which is exactly what the Salt series is all about.
 
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The entire knife is made from H1 steel and the clip is Titanium. Pins and all are H1 and it's the only steel made without any carbon. It cannot rust and other types are merely stain-less not rust proof.
From the Spyderco website:
Whether sporting or laboring in saltwater two features rate highly in choosing a fixed blade utility knife, reliable cutting performance and the knife’s ability to remain rust free without maintenance. The knife industry toyed unsuccessfully with non-rusting steels for years until two years ago when Spyderco started manufacturing blades using an alloy called H-1. H1 is precipitation-hardened steel, utilizing .1% nitrogen instead of carbon. Carbon is the component in steel that makes the blade hard and allows it to hold an edge. Carbon also reacts to chloride, making rust. With nitrogen replacing the carbon; hardness and edge retention are realized but nitrogen doesn’t react to chloride so it physically cannot rust.
 
The entire knife is rust-proof according to Spyderco. I made the statement I believed the pins and locking bar to be H1 on the Spyderco forum and I was not corrected.
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=635903&highlight=salt
The details at the Spyderco site say "all metal parts are treated and rust proof".
I know there's been attempts to make the Salt models rust by any means, even corrosive chemicals and they have failed. It is a great knife for people that don't want to be bothered with maintenance and it holds an edge really well and sharpens easy.
 
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I only own a couple of Spyderco's BECAUSE I don't like Lock backs and so many of their knives ARE lock backs. I love my D'allera (ball lock). If spyderco moved to frame lock, (or anything besides the lock back) I'd own a ton of 'em.

I don't own many lock backs from any maker... just don't like 'em. I'm a one hand open and one hand close kind of guy... lock backs are inconvenient to close (for me).
 
All my lockbacks have small amounts of blade play. This is not peculiar to Spyderco. None has ever failed.

As far as handles go, I have no problems with FRN if it is done correctly and I find Spyderco does a very good job with FRN.

If either the design or the handle does not suit you, buy something else. Lots of other folks LOVE Spyderco knives just the way they are.
 
Blade play in a folder is something I detest but..........I have some Spyderco folders that have it. And the play is up and down is very little and it must be in the thousandths of an inch maybe ten thousanths of an inch. Extemely small measurements of movement. I discussed this with the Spyderco warranty division and she said very small amounts of play are nothing to be concerned about. I believe them! This is a company that tries it very best to provide a quality product to it's customers. And I own more Spydercos than any other knives. And my first purchase goes back to early 1990. And I have never had one of my Spydercos fail. I trust Spyderco Lock backs. I have seen other quality knives develope play over time but my Spydercos have held up with very little play developing. Some play or loosening over time is normal with wear and tear and sometime knives just wear out like anything else. But a minute amount of play is not something to be concerned about as we are talking about. It really comes down to trusting a company that provide a product and I believe Spyderco is a excellent company and a company you can trust.

RKH
 
I got mine off eBay brand new. They can cost more at dealers, but they can be a bit less if you look.
 
My Tasman Salt has no blade play.
My Waved Endura, which is actually the blade and lock taken off of a Waved Endura and put on the handle of the Endura Glock Tool, has no play. Yep, a knife that wasn't put together the way it is now has no play.
 
In my Delica 3 there is movement in the knife. Though I cant say if it has always been there. The knife has been used for years and its only something that I notice when I look for it. In most of my spyderco’s with liners I can detect only the (very) slightest wiggle. Again not something that I would notice unless I was looking for it. I know from experience that wiggle or not the lock up is strong.
 
If you are able to defeat a lock back designed folder you are not useing your knife correctly. You will also discover you can destroy a car by jumping it.
 
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