I Was Wrong About WE Knives

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BJJKK said:
This not true at all. I have client (I am a CPA) that has a manufacturing division in China. They pay a corporation tax to China. That is it. They also pay their workers a competitive wage even by USA standards.
The company also repatriate the profits every few years. That gets taxed by the USA on repatriation, not by China. So, in short you are wrong...
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Thank you. I've been trying to find information on how it actually works over there, and that helps a lot. So, is it like that just because it's a division of a company, and would We, being Chinese owned (by a Chinese person, not government) be any different? If people actually own the business and the government only gets a tax, that's wonderful.

Please, explain more, or tell me where I can read about it. I'm just an electrician, I don't know where to go for this information lol!
 
I have zero interest in WE because:
1. I prefer to buy closer to home.
2. They don’t make knives that interest me.
3. If they did make a knife that interests me I would still buy from a maker closer to home.

edited to add: Also the world seriously needs to rethink the way we’re doing things and become more self reliant. So ANYTHING we can do to buy as local as possible in every small way possible will make the world a better place.
 
To the folks that have no interest in WE because they’re a Chinese manufacturer...do you still buy from American companies that have some of their knives made in China? Buck being a perfect example...
 
My sense is the market will get sorted with new trade agreements coming down the pike. Political arguments fall by the wayside when knife manufacturers are compared to high tech electronics companies. Comparatively low-tech industries like knife makers don’t have the ability to steal trade secrets and spy on their consumer market. It is likely an industrial sector that has little value to the Chinese authorities outside of its employment opportunities and tax base.

Anyone here that has a DJI drone is literally sending data to the manufacturer every time it is flown. How would your knife do that?
 
I'm quite happy to buy a Colorado made Spyderco or indeed a Maniago /Taiwan/Seki Spyderco. I'd avoid the Chinese ones, however; partly because they always have the most generic steel and partly because knives (once you've acquired one or two) are luxury items and I don't really associate China or Chinese goods with luxury. Clearly there is nothing inferior about their skills and manufacturing ability - but the sheer amount of garbage shipping out of China (stuff we asked them to make as cheaply as possible!) makes it really hard for their products to ever be as sexy as say the best Italian products. It's a prejudice, yes, and not one I'm too proud of, but it's there.
 
Monofletch said:
What about your local knife show that sells WE Knives? Do you support them?
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I absolutely buy from local knife shops. But I buy CRK, Spyderco (Golden), ect.

Lee D said:
To the folks that have no interest in WE because they’re a Chinese manufacturer...do you still buy from American companies that have some of their knives made in China? Buck being a perfect example...
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I do buy Golden made Spyderco and the occasional Italian or Japanese Spyderco.
 
My wife and I use our Keens for table knives so they're used most evenings at dinner. She loves her Purple Groove.

What I've carried since acquisition is a custom Laconico EZC. It's the perfect gent's carry piece for me. I don't touch any of the others now. Shiros, Anso, Burger, CRK, Cheburkov and more sit unused in their drawer.

MBK just released the integral EZC and it sold out in hours as usual. I haven't been keeping up. Ray has been a busy guy.

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marchone said:
My wife and I use our Keens for table knives so they're used most evenings at dinner. She loves her Purple Groove.

What I've carried since acquisition is a custom Laconico EZC. It's the perfect gent's carry piece for me. I don't touch any of the others now. Shiros, Anso, Burger, CRK, Cheburkov and more sit unused in their drawer.

MBK just released the integral EZC and it sold out in hours as usual. I haven't been keeping up. Ray has been a busy guy.

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Are either of those from Massdrop colabs?
 
Lee D said:
To the folks that have no interest in WE because they’re a Chinese manufacturer...do you still buy from American companies that have some of their knives made in China? Buck being a perfect example...
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I do buy from Buck and Spyderco...but I will not buy any of their Chinese made knives.
I'm well aware that this is a compromise...but few things in life are not.

For me, there's just no pride in owning and carrying a Chinese made knife.
No matter how nice the knife is, every time I saw that "Made in China" or just "China" on the tang I would feel like a sell out.
 
allenC said:
I dispute this claim.

If an American knife maker made a knife identical to a WE knife, but the American one costs 400.00 dollars, while the WE costs 200.00 dollars, which one would you buy?
Remember, they are both identical other than the price...would you pay double for the American made knife?

If you still choose the WE knife, then YES, you are buying because of price.
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That is just about the dumbest comparison I have heard all day.

The full quote is "I don’t think you’re following the tone of the thread... we aren’t buying WE for the price. We are buying them for the design, quality, and tolerances"

Did he say anything about "We are choosing to buy products based on their country of origin"? No.

What are you disputing exactly? Who in their right mind is gonna pay $400 instead of $200 for the exact same thing?

Basically your reasoning doesnt hold any ground because the dependent factor is what an illogical person would do.

Also, another reason why your example isn't valid is because in a real world there wont be two knives with the exact same design from two legitimate companies. No two knives are the same. People pick designs based on what they like.

It looks like you are from some dystopian world where voodoo numbers and calculations and illogical people roam the streets
 
allenC said:
I do buy from Buck and Spyderco...but I will not buy any of their Chinese made knives.
I'm well aware that this is a compromise...but few things in life are not.

For me, there's just no pride in owning and carrying a Chinese made knife.
No matter how nice the knife is, every time I saw that "Made in China" or just "China" on the tang I would feel like a sell out.
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So carrying a tool that's made in a certain foreign country has the ability to make you feel like a "sell out". Do you hear yourself lol. And you carry tools for "pride". Views of the narrow minded and undereducated...

I would understand if you dont want to carry a chinese made knife if from your experience they were bad.

But saying that when you see the words made in china it makes you feel like a sell out... I haven't laughed so hard in a while XD
 
BloodyDonnie said:
What are you disputing exactly? Who in their right mind is gonna pay $400 instead of $200 for the exact same thing?
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If I had the choice between 2 identical knives, only differing in either made in the USA or made in China and the price (USA $400 and China $200), and I really loved the knife....YES! I would spend the extra $200 dollars and buy the USA made knife.
And every time I used that knife, or showed it to friends and family, I would have great pride in doing so.
I would be a bit ashamed to show my family and friends that I was carrying a Chinese made knife.

Buy as I stated before...some folks are buying purely on price.

Another way to put it...

2 identical knives, but one is made in China by WE and one is made in the USA by CR Knives...and they are the same price.
Would you still buy the Chinese made WE over the USA made Chris Reeve?
 
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