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Refunding your money before he had the knife back is unheard of...and a really nice thing to do...to just say "It's over....just give me my knife back" It was really low end to post negatively...when you have your money AND his knife. :barf:
 
In my opinion Ren did more than he had to to make things right on this deal, Paypal got the best end of the deal, meaning that Ren didn't get the whole 80.00 anyway inthe first place paypal took their fee off the top probably got around 77.00 then the shipping out to you(Dan) He pocketed maybe 72.00 if mailed with insurance. You were unhappy with the knife, your entitled to not be happy I reckon, but Ren not only returned the 80.00 but gave the option of You setting the price, I havent' had any offers like that before. I realize paypal probably got a fee off the return money too so their up about 7.00 just for "holding the dough"(the real crooks here) But if it was a 10.00 knife or a 350.00 knife i do think i would put every ounce of effort into getting that knife back into Rens hands immediately if not sooner, cause it's no longer yours. It's his property again, and that is the end of the story and my opinion. Thanks for listening.
James
 
Dan,

You should have sent the knife back promptly when you recieved your refund. End of story. No stories and no "I'll send it back when I get the chance" bullshit. Quit dicking around and get to it. :grumpy:
 
Danbo said:
I know one thing for sure; you should NOT have insulted the man's integrity, and you should have ALREADY returned his knife.
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Yup, that's about it.
 
I would do the following:

1) Ship the knife back ASAP.
2) Eat the shipping, I agree that it is customary, at least from my experience.
3) Apologize for questioning his integrity as he is obviously a straight shooter with 99 to 100% of every one else he has dealt with.
 
Hate to go with the crowd here, but it's a pretty good crowd so I'll chime in anyway. You have your money and his knife... that's not good. Return the knife and pray that you can live this down to do business here in the future.
 
I'm not sure what you expected. . . .hell. . . .it was a 30-year-old knife and box.

But. . . .questioning the sellers integrity was uncalled for.




You claim that you were not able to return ship that week. That's understandable. . .and as long as you communicated that to the seller.


But here you are. . . .several weeks later. . . .and you still haven't returned the knife.


WTF ? ? ? ?


And you wonder why you have received hateful e-mails. :rolleyes:




A buyer wanting to haggle over $5 worth of shipping charges ?


Some knife-knut you are ! :barf:


Hell. . . .you're not worthy of receiving used toilet paper ! ;)
 
rroper1 said:
...I realize paypal probably got a fee off the return money too so their up about 7.00 just for "holding the dough"(the real crooks here)...
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actually, they shouldn't see any money. i have received a refund or two over the years, and paypal reversed the fees on the sellers' end when it came back. hopefully, that's what'll happen here.

abe
 
well if nothing else this shows there is always 2 sides to a story, ya need to send the guy his knife back ASAP and not worry about the shipping fees imho, ren hasnt done ya any way but right, send him his knife back ASAP, and go on with life.
 
You got your fricken money back even before he got his knife back. What more do you want. For crying out loud, just send the man his knife back. :grumpy:
Scott
 
TrackerDan,

this would be an excellent time to post:

Your knife is on the way, here is your tracking #, it was sent USPS w/ del conf, insured

Hope we can get this behind us. :)

Time for damage control and then let some time pass.

Its not the end of the world, but if you don`t get busy, it could be the end of a great place to hang out and trade. :eek:
 
TrackerDan said:
Yes I have every intention of returning the knife, always did, which will be this coming week.

Amazingly, I believe I did business with this person a couple years ago and all went well.
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Intentions don't mean squat. If you always intended to, why has this dragged on. You obviously did not communicate your intentions. Ren refunded your payment in good faith. A reasonably intelligent person would have shipped the knife to show the same good faith and communicated about the shipping at a later date. Ren has done everything contracturally to attempt to satisfy you. You are in breach of contract as well as good faith.

Damage control on your part is going to require more than laying low for a while. Do your homework and find out more about the man you are impuning here. Procede with caution next time and think before elevating this to a whining contest. You yourself admit everything went well a couple of years ago. Did you think the seller changed that much and you couldn't reach an acceptable agreement or were your expectations really so far out of line that it was necessary to air your laundry in public.

It's sad to see this and sad to see your protestations continue. From your continued quibbling, I would expect you don't intend to apologize....
 
Dan
Actions are what counts. Words meaning nothing. Send Ren's knife back to him now. Pretty simple, eh?
 
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Intentions don't mean squat. If you always intended to, why has this dragged on. You obviously did not communicate your intentions. Ren refunded your payment in good faith. A reasonably intelligent person would have shipped the knife to show the same good faith and communicated about the shipping at a later date. Ren has done everything contracturally to attempt to satisfy you. You are in breach of contract as well as good faith.

Damage control on your part is going to require more than laying low for a while. Do your homework and find out more about the man you are impuning here. Procede with caution next time and think before elevating this to a whining contest. You yourself admit everything went well a couple of years ago. Did you think the seller changed that much and you couldn't reach an acceptable agreement or were your expectations really so far out of line that it was necessary to air your laundry in public.

It's sad to see this and sad to see your protestations continue. From your continued quibbling, I would expect you don't intend to apologize....
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A big question is: Do you expect any reputable person on this forum to do business with you in the future?
It looks like you have screwed yourself up here pretty badly. An apology to Ren might start your rehabilitation, but I wouldn't count on it.
 
Dan

You have the knife and a full refund

Seems to me Ren has bent over backwards to make things good

Casting doubt on his integrity is not on

Send his knife back

Rob
 
Dan, I work in retail.

Have you ever, ever received a refund for any product prior to the retailer regaining possesion of the merchandise?

I haven't.

Have you ever dealt with a merchant or seller who covers the bill for shipping a returned product?
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Ren's reputation is more than stellar...
AND, Trucker, even if you were right, which you're not, Ren's reputation would still be stellar...

Send the knife back before you get banned and marked as someone who should never be dealt with on this forum.
 
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