Idaho made engraving on nyala

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Hi I have just purchased a nyala and wanted to discuss the thoughts of people with regards to the engraving on the blade Idaho made. I did try and carry on the thread on the Idaho made poll as I thought that wa the correct place to discuss it, however after firstly being called a troll and then having a mod close it down I have been asked to start a new thread, seems odd....

I purchased the knife from a uk distributor whom I had asked to photograph it, however they took a picture of the non engraved side, so when I received the knife I can't tell you how disappointed I was to see the engraving on it. I see most of the discussion on the poll thread is pertaining to the sebenze folder so I wanted to see what people thought about how the nyala looked with the engraving.

I have tried talking to Chris about it but he straight away went on the defence and suggested that it was his choice, and that's how it was staying...

I realise that this is opening old wounds but, a I said I've only just had this knife recently so that's why I'm discussing it now..

What surprises me is that Chris has made such good knives and this is what people have come to expect and then he dramatically has changed the way in which they look. Whilst I can appreciate that function is not impaired, it's not th only reason people have purchased these knives, spending that sort of money has to also take into consideration how they appear. Aesthetics is a big part of some knife collectors views and to have this dramatic change without discussion or consultation with the very people whom shall be buying them seems a tad silly to me.

Any thoughts...
 
You should return the knife to the store and start looking for an older one without the stamp. They aren't uncommon. I don't mind the stamp at all because I just accept the knife as is. I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder. There are some knives that people gush over that I think are just plain ugly. So I don't buy it. Perhaps as a businessman, if CR Saw his business was suffering due to it he'd change it, but it must be obvious that business isn't suffering at all because of the stamp.
 
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I think the main gripe would be with the person you purchased it from. You got something you didn't think you were getting, so in that situation a refund is in order.

As far as rallying the troops and convincing Chris to change his mind...best of luck :thumbup:

It's his company, he'll do as he wishes. If consultation with his customers / fan base was the norm he'd have very little wiggle room to do what he wants with a company he makes his living with.

People may not like the Idaho Made, nor the discontinuing of the Annual, or the lack of options on the Insigno....but we are still buying and using our CRK's.
 
I just read your first few posts from the thread that you had just gotten closed. All I have to ask is...Did you really "chop up" and throw away/ruin a perfectly good brand new Nyala just because you felt deceived by your UK knife dealer about the 'Made In Idaho' stamp?

If you did, that is a serious waist of money over something as trivial as a "Made in Idaho" stamp. Why not just return the knife for a refund, or re-sell it for retail on Ebay or here at the forum?

I suppose you got so mad about the "Made In Idaho" stamp that you just went completely ape-$hit on the Nyala. Poor knife! :hopelessness:

I would have either returned it for the money or sold it, and then I would have done a search for a pre-stamped version (or else I would have just learned to live with it).
 
"Any thoughts....." you ask? You bet! I have plenty.

I am one who happens to like the Idaho Made stamp. Idaho is a great state and I have enjoyed much quality time there. It is like stamping a product "Made In USA"....only better. I am 100% behind Chris in his choice to mark his knives in this way. I make a line of high quality leather knife sheaths and all of my sheaths are proudly stamped "Arizona". Because that is where they are made, not out sourced, anywhere.

Everyone has their own opinion and that is as it should be. Don't like the Idaho Made marking? Don't buy the knife. Seems pretty darn simple to me!!
 
My first 21 came without the stamp, and I was hesitant to buy my next unique because it had it. I thought, ah well, it's too nice to pass up. Maybe I don't like change as I'm so anal about details.

Several knives later, it makes no difference to my purchasing. He's proud that's where they are made, cool.

PS- A Ford does say where it was made, on a decal, in the window.
 
Ok I'll be honest, no I didn't chop up the knife, it's sitting in my cupboard on display waiting for me to come to terms with the darn thing..

I bought it because I felt it was absoloutly superb in the picture which was sent to me but as I said the pic sent was of the non engraved side... Whilst I agree that there is nothing wrong with Idaho nor the people whom live there, but I felt that it was a little to much personalisation from the maker..

While many of us are proud of where we live others may not want to have it permanently engraved on our pieces of art so to speak, the annoying thing is that it was originally made without the engraving which is what we all came to accept, certainly me, and then it came engraved, I feel that if it's a good running engine that everybody knows why go fitting upgrades to it that some people may not want..

The clean cut lines of the blade seem to have been imposed upon for the sake of mr reeves love of his state..

Just out of interest does anyone know of any brand new unused nyala,s without engraving on for sale at all, I live in the uk and eBay in their infinite wisdom now believe that people who buy knives over here are all going to harm some one , so will no longer allow the sale of knives... This was my main source of good deals which has now been stopped by the politically correct type people ... But you can buy a large cooking knife which isn't classed as dangerous... Go figure!

Thanks for all the replies so far, can't say I'm convinced, however I might just warm to the deal in time....
 
The seller won't take it back? Just keep an eye on the knife exchange. An old Nyala will pop up. I've had GREAT luck in the WANTED forum as well. I'm 3/3 in finding what I want thanks to great BF members.
 
I would say I am the biggest anti " Idaho Made" stamp guy on this forum.

I hate the look and execution of it very much. The stamp lacks any style or class.

I did buy one LE sebenza with the stamp on it to see it in person and it looked even worse than the pictures, but that is the last CR knife I bought new and I definitely will not buy any more CR knives with the IM stamp.

Luckily I have plenty of the older knives without IM on them to keep me going so my money stays in my pocket. :)
 
At first I didn't think much of the stamp and really didn't like it but when I heard Chris explain why he did it then it didn't bother me so much. I've gotten used to it and it's not a deal breaker for me. He does make his folding knives in dedicated left hand versions and that is way more important to me than the idaho stamp. I'm not real crazy about the stamp but I understand and accept it for what it is. CRK is doing real well so I assume that the stamp is mostly accepted. And he's proud it's made in Idaho and I don't fault him a bit for stamping his knives.
 
Id bet that most people who dont like the stamp dont live in an awesome state and they dont love thier state. I live in Texas and if i were to ever make and sell something you better believe it would say Made in Texas on it. Im proud to own a knife made by a man who is proud of where he comes from. It says a lot about someone and thier way of life. I like the stamp.
 
I'm new to knives and even newer to high quality knives. However, my research of CRK has absolutely guaranteed my satisfaction of the CRK products that I have inbound. Personally, I'm not a fan of the Idaho Made stamp. But, I'm not going to deprive myself of the opportunity to own arguably some of the best knives made because of it; especially with a cosmetic touch that doesn't affect it's performance.

I'd suggest using the tool to its maximum potential and see if it meets your performance expectations. I suspect at the end of your evaluation period, you won't care if says, "Made by Leroy".:)
 
Scott Dog said:
I'm not real crazy about the stamp but I understand and accept it for what it is. CRK is doing real well so I assume that the stamp is mostly accepted. And he's proud it's made in Idaho and I don't fault him a bit for stamping his knives.
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Chris makes great knives...in the state of Idaho. And is proud of the fact. I have absolutely no problem with it stamped on his creations.
 
I think it may be a bit unappealing but it definately does not stop me from buying a CRK. I applaud Chris for sticking to his guns and not bending to the will of everyone that does not like something and wants it changed. I do agree that it may be made more appealing / attractive.
 
simplespeed said:
Id bet that most people who dont like the stamp dont live in an awesome state and they dont love thier state. I live in Texas and if i were to ever make and sell something you better believe it would say Made in Texas on it. Im proud to own a knife made by a man who is proud of where he comes from. It says a lot about someone and thier way of life. I like the stamp.
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I live in a fantastic state and country. I am very proud of Australia :thumbup:, I am not proud of Idaho and don't want the word crudely stamped on my tools, therefore I don't buy them. But it does not stop me from expressing my opinion when the opportunity comes up :)

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I'm new to knives and even newer to high quality knives. However, my research of CRK has absolutely guaranteed my satisfaction of the CRK products that I have inbound. Personally, I'm not a fan of the Idaho Made stamp. But, I'm not going to deprive myself of the opportunity to own arguably some of the best knives made because of it; especially with a cosmetic touch that doesn't affect it's performance.

I'd suggest using the tool to its maximum potential and see if it meets your performance expectations. I suspect at the end of your evaluation period, you won't care if says, "Made by Leroy".:)
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Your point is true enough but I stick to the older models that I managed to get before CRK decided to devalue their tools (IMHO :D)
 
giant1 said:
I live in a fantastic state and country. I am very proud of Australia :thumbup:, I am not proud of Idaho and don't want the word crudely stamped on my tools, therefore I don't buy them. But it does not stop me from expressing my opinion when the opportunity comes up :)



Your point is true enough but I stick to the older models that I managed to get before CRK decided to devalue their tools (IMHO :D)
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I can understand where your coming from. We just view things differently. My work boots are redbacks and i swear by them. A lot of guys at work wear them and brag to others that they are so comfotrable and super slip resistant that they are Australian made. Nobody ever leaves that part out. Theyre proud that they have a quality boot made in Australia. Maybe its because i dont see knife as "art" but more of a tool to be used. Although i do understand why people collect knives, its not for me. As a Toyota tech, i appreciate tools for theyre design an how well they work, not because they are pretty or rare although i am on a tool forum where collectors are the majority.
 
simplespeed said:
Id bet that most people who dont like the stamp dont live in an awesome state and they dont love thier state. I live in Texas and if i were to ever make and sell something you better believe it would say Made in Texas on it. Im proud to own a knife made by a man who is proud of where he comes from. It says a lot about someone and thier way of life. I like the stamp.
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I fully understand how proud people must be of where they live, but why is it that we all are made to live the same dream... I agree that while these knives are nice to look at they are all said and done TOOLS as you have suggested, and boy I have lots of them.. But however hard I try and look at it I am being told that when I buy a Crk knife that I must also accept his love for his country by means of an engraved blade or handle, I would of thought there were better ways of still expressing his love for where he lives other than through his business venture.. Buy the T shirt so to speak...

If this is to be accepted as a tool then why must we endure his desire to tell us about the love for his country which has no relavence with the knife or tool in question.
 
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