some folks seem to think im
a dealer or working for one!
this is not true.
If and When I take on that title?
I will gladly move to the proper place!
thank you to all who have dealt with us,
good day J.D.
THE flea market man & woman.
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some folks seem to think im
a dealer or working for one!
this is not true.
If and When I take on that title?
I will gladly move to the proper place!
thank you to all who have dealt with us,
good day J.D.
THE flea market man & woman.
Well I did not think abody
would have anything to say leslie
and Me! I Myself wish someone would
Speek up and tell Me what they think!
Or Were they would like me to be ,
I"m Esay to get along with,And if some of
you all. would like Me to sell are products.
In the dealer sector, it would be nice to have on of the cheifs tell me insted of a
few indians. here and waiting J.D. & LESLIE F. thank you again! we enjoy this web site
and would like to make freinds insted of
enemys! So speek up now .
dogman
Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider
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Hello, j.d.,
Since I am probably one of the few up this early, I will give you the feedback you desire. You are pricing your knives at retail pricing. One example is the Starmate. A regular Starmate is $75 wholesale. Limited run or pre-prod does not add that much value to a production knife. Individuals that are selling their personal knives usually do not put a change amount in the sale price (e.g. $155.95) in the for sale/trade area. I feel the spirit of the for sale/trade area should be for fun and to add new knives to one's collection. The only time it may be ethically correct (in these forums) to sell a privately owned knife for more than what was paid for it is a knife that automatically increases in value as soon as it it bought from the maker (i.e., customs, some microtechs, emerson customs, etc.). If you have a booth or area at a flea market, I must assume you have a tax ID. That means you can buy from wholesale distributors. If you overprice on the private for sale forum, you will be peer evaluated. Hundreds of people sell here; only a few get pointed out for resembling a dealer in the private section. If you are one of the very few that get pointed out, is it your peers (the KnifeKnuts) or is it your methods.
The big "but" to all this is that they are your knives, this is an open forum, and you can price them any way you want. I have been here long enough and I will speak for others...please do not try to make a profit in the private sale area, it takes away the pleasure of what we do here.
Bob
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"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
George Orwell
Since I am probably one of the few up this early, I will give you the feedback you desire. You are pricing your knives at retail pricing. One example is the Starmate. A regular Starmate is $75 wholesale. Limited run or pre-prod does not add that much value to a production knife. Individuals that are selling their personal knives usually do not put a change amount in the sale price (e.g. $155.95) in the for sale/trade area. I feel the spirit of the for sale/trade area should be for fun and to add new knives to one's collection. The only time it may be ethically correct (in these forums) to sell a privately owned knife for more than what was paid for it is a knife that automatically increases in value as soon as it it bought from the maker (i.e., customs, some microtechs, emerson customs, etc.). If you have a booth or area at a flea market, I must assume you have a tax ID. That means you can buy from wholesale distributors. If you overprice on the private for sale forum, you will be peer evaluated. Hundreds of people sell here; only a few get pointed out for resembling a dealer in the private section. If you are one of the very few that get pointed out, is it your peers (the KnifeKnuts) or is it your methods.
The big "but" to all this is that they are your knives, this is an open forum, and you can price them any way you want. I have been here long enough and I will speak for others...please do not try to make a profit in the private sale area, it takes away the pleasure of what we do here.
Bob
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"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
George Orwell
Since I am the one that brought this up in the first place, I will speak on it.
As you have readily stated in your most recent posts that you are a "Flea market man", you no doubt do a lot of wheeling and dealing with whatever items you sell. If these items are knives, then obviously you are a knife dealer. If the items you sell at flea markets are not knives, then you are obtaining your knives from either a dealer friend or a distributor using your tax ID number that you obtained for the purpose of buying at wholesale prices whatever it is that you sell.
It seems to me that you are coming up with a lot of brand new, current production model, and sometimes serial numbered knives. The only way to get a lot of these things is from either a distributor or dealer.
How do I know this, because I myself am a small private dealer (with no internet prescence) and soon to be knifemaker. The difference is, that if I put a knife in the Individual For Sale forum, it is a knife that I purchased for myself and have had for a while or I got from trading with other people, and I sell them at very reasonable prices and many times under wholesale pricing. If I have some knives that I have for sale through my business I will put them in the Dealer For Sale forum.
Now don't get me wrong, I am in no way trying to tell you what you should do with your knives, you can sell them at whatever price you want, and if people want them, they will buy them, but let's just try to be a little more truthful in how they are obtained.
I don't know, maybe I am wrong about the whole thing, but obviously if this has come this far, then others think the same thing.
Or better yet, if you would simply explain your situation, then maybe people woudn't be asking these questions.
And please do not take this as an personal attack, it is not, I am just asking what others have been wondering. Have a nice day.
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C.O.'s-"It takes balls to work behind the walls "
As you have readily stated in your most recent posts that you are a "Flea market man", you no doubt do a lot of wheeling and dealing with whatever items you sell. If these items are knives, then obviously you are a knife dealer. If the items you sell at flea markets are not knives, then you are obtaining your knives from either a dealer friend or a distributor using your tax ID number that you obtained for the purpose of buying at wholesale prices whatever it is that you sell.
It seems to me that you are coming up with a lot of brand new, current production model, and sometimes serial numbered knives. The only way to get a lot of these things is from either a distributor or dealer.
How do I know this, because I myself am a small private dealer (with no internet prescence) and soon to be knifemaker. The difference is, that if I put a knife in the Individual For Sale forum, it is a knife that I purchased for myself and have had for a while or I got from trading with other people, and I sell them at very reasonable prices and many times under wholesale pricing. If I have some knives that I have for sale through my business I will put them in the Dealer For Sale forum.
Now don't get me wrong, I am in no way trying to tell you what you should do with your knives, you can sell them at whatever price you want, and if people want them, they will buy them, but let's just try to be a little more truthful in how they are obtained.
I don't know, maybe I am wrong about the whole thing, but obviously if this has come this far, then others think the same thing.
Or better yet, if you would simply explain your situation, then maybe people woudn't be asking these questions.
And please do not take this as an personal attack, it is not, I am just asking what others have been wondering. Have a nice day.
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C.O.'s-"It takes balls to work behind the walls "
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Got to agree about the prices, jd.
I've been getting an honest chuckle when I see prices approaching retail referred to as "great deals", especially when the same items are being offered in the same place for far less.
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"That which does not kill me just postpones the inevitable."
I've been getting an honest chuckle when I see prices approaching retail referred to as "great deals", especially when the same items are being offered in the same place for far less.
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AKTI Member #A000832
"That which does not kill me just postpones the inevitable."
Richard
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Well, remember, you asked
Your prices crack me up. However, as stated above, you are free to try and get any price you want, but if I were you, I wouldnt get my hopes up. Your prices are what I would expect to see in a mall. If you really want to sell/trade on here for fun, thats great, but I think most of us are to smart to be gouged on price. If you have something to sell from your personal collection, look at what others are selling thiers for, and try and be competitive, otherwise, you probably ought to stick to the flea markets. Just a thought.
Richard
Richard
Good day.
I want to thank the people who took
the time to remind me of how bad I
spell, also I do under stand what your
trying to preverse in this forum, and respect
It. And will conduct my self with
accordance! all of the spyderco"s I offered
I payed full retail for except 2, and yes to your next
question,I have goten on other sights and bought for my
freinds and my self.And have sold them as a
personal individual. some sales where created
by other persons not takin there requests,
and I can buy quality knifes on the net for
cheap, due to I search them out with countless
hours in frount of this p.c.! and look to be a knife and surplus
dealer,lets just say I am a dealer from this point on.
do to I think it would be better for this forum , and us, wife and me.and plan on opening a small store in the near furture.
I"m am truely sorry if I have disturbed
the quality of are sight. please respond
to my post so that I may understand exactly
how I should conduct my dealing on this forum
thank you for your understanding if you
can under stand my spelling. ha! I used
a dictionary this time, and proabley still
miss spelled some words.I"m open to any
help, and I A"m trying to learn from my mistakes.
please write and have a good laugh on me.
thanks again! jd open to suggestions.
Hey J.D., I'm glad you're open to suggestions here, that's a good sign. I assume that you're from another country, judging by your grammer, so I'd like to say that your english / spelling isn't too bad. If you'd like to check your prices against others, HERE is a good place to start. Good Luck!!!
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J.D. Welcome to the forums. The Individuals For Sale Forum, is just that, hobbyist or occasional sales or trades. Dealers (Resellers) have their own listing under Knives for Sale/Dealers. You in my opinion fit in the classification of a dealer or reseller. List there, compete with the other dealers and I wish you the best. Price your knives at what you wish and let the free market determine the outcome.
sarge
sarge
dogman
Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider
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j.d.,
Don't be afraid to ask questions. You will not be ridiculed and you will have many forumites willing to give you all the advice you can handle
Be an active participant and have fun.
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George Orwell
Don't be afraid to ask questions. You will not be ridiculed and you will have many forumites willing to give you all the advice you can handle
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Not to worry, jd! Look forward to seeing you around!
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AKTI Member #A000832
"That which does not kill me just postpones the inevitable."
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AKTI Member #A000832
"That which does not kill me just postpones the inevitable."
J.D.,
Thanks for taking the time to reply and help us understand how it is that you obtain your knives. Welcome to the forums and stick around, you just might learn something from all these knife knuts, I know I sure did, and I continue to learn everyday.
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C.O.'s-"It takes balls to work behind the walls "
Thanks for taking the time to reply and help us understand how it is that you obtain your knives. Welcome to the forums and stick around, you just might learn something from all these knife knuts, I know I sure did, and I continue to learn everyday.
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C.O.'s-"It takes balls to work behind the walls "
Man.....you gotta love the conversation on this forum. You guys are straight up & I like it. I know as small dealer" like myself(one who has tax ID & works full-time during the day at another job) trying to pick-up a few extra dollars for these hungry mouths over here, it does frustrate me to sometimes see NIB's being sold quite a bit by the same individuals on a regular basis for what might seem to be a nice profit. It does make you question where they are buying at or you wonder if they just enjoy transferring the cash around. Well, I'm a dealer, but I will only post in dealer section, unless perhaps it is my personal carry that I'm ready to move. We must play by the rules around here!
My few pennies worth.
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Knives & Things
Mike Payne
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My few pennies worth.
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Knives & Things
Mike Payne
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Jackyl. GrammEr? HAHAHAHAHAH
I love it!
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Regards,
Tim
Nor'east Knives
noreastknives@bigfoot.com
There are two rules for ultimate success in life.
Never tell everything you know.
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Regards,
Tim
Nor'east Knives
noreastknives@bigfoot.com
There are two rules for ultimate success in life.
Never tell everything you know.
An honest tuff crowd to Deal with!
well at least I feel welcome I think?
no I do, and thank you fellow forummites!
But Jackle; give a poor deep southern man
a break, my grammER is so bad do to working on fishing boats in souuth fla, sence
a child,and never went to school,It's ruff enuff! (I know no excuses.)sarge ; thank you for your welcome.Dogman; ridicule is my freind, for it makes me learn,and to rethink!
thank you also for your welcome,Brian-t:
thank you too for taking the time to write,
and Jailhack: A spl thanks to you for bringing this to lite, also breaking the ice,
so I can make a few more freinds!I belive
that one can"t have to maney,remmber to keep
your freind close, and your enemy"s closer1
dad always said!.Mpayne:your insight is what I plain to stick to.and thanks for your welcome, And Tim Flanagan;I like your saying the best ; never tell everthing you know!,
Well i'v pretty much done so, but having to
Do so to
make some new freinds, well I don't mind.
and thanks again for taking time to share
your thought's and Wisdom.I will make the best of It all, and you all keep on laufging at my
price's I hope to bring them down as fast as possable for it hurt's me,in the long run but It can't be help. but all i'm trying to do is get people what they want
at any cost,I find It fun and enjoy helping
out any body I can, and if I can't make
A few dollars at it Owell, there has been
maney times sence i'v been on this site
were i'v loss, But i'v learned from those
losses, and Belive me I'm not making any
money after you take you time & travel,
time money is put out , s&h&i etc let's
just say I don't get to the bank to make depo's ever. so far; but with a little
luck and hard work may be that will change
talk to you all latter folks
well of to the market, and hope to talk to
all soon.jd
well at least I feel welcome I think?
no I do, and thank you fellow forummites!
But Jackle; give a poor deep southern man
a break, my grammER is so bad do to working on fishing boats in souuth fla, sence
a child,and never went to school,It's ruff enuff! (I know no excuses.)sarge ; thank you for your welcome.Dogman; ridicule is my freind, for it makes me learn,and to rethink!
thank you also for your welcome,Brian-t:
thank you too for taking the time to write,
and Jailhack: A spl thanks to you for bringing this to lite, also breaking the ice,
so I can make a few more freinds!I belive
that one can"t have to maney,remmber to keep
your freind close, and your enemy"s closer1
dad always said!.Mpayne:your insight is what I plain to stick to.and thanks for your welcome, And Tim Flanagan;I like your saying the best ; never tell everthing you know!,
Well i'v pretty much done so, but having to
Do so to
make some new freinds, well I don't mind.
and thanks again for taking time to share
your thought's and Wisdom.I will make the best of It all, and you all keep on laufging at my
price's I hope to bring them down as fast as possable for it hurt's me,in the long run but It can't be help. but all i'm trying to do is get people what they want
at any cost,I find It fun and enjoy helping
out any body I can, and if I can't make
A few dollars at it Owell, there has been
maney times sence i'v been on this site
were i'v loss, But i'v learned from those
losses, and Belive me I'm not making any
money after you take you time & travel,
time money is put out , s&h&i etc let's
just say I don't get to the bank to make depo's ever. so far; but with a little
luck and hard work may be that will change
well of to the market, and hope to talk to
all soon.jd
JD in this Forum, just go by this one rule (I learned from my Father) and you will prosper. Treat others like you would like to be treated. I have seen over and over, if you give someone a chance to screw you on this board; they won't. I have sent knives out before payment and have never been zapped. One thing though, if your word is not good, we will know fast! Enjoy and good luck!
Just my personal opinion...... I think that "j.d." is too cool
!!!!!!
He throws a post up, opens himself up as a no BS - straight forward kinda guy!!!!
Never bought a knife from him nor remember seeing his previous posts........so can't comment about his prices or anything else....
Takes a little heat about his spellin' and knife sellin'......... MAN!!! Comes back to you all as a very nice guy!!! Really down to earth!!!
I'm not frettin' about his status (may he be a distributor or dealer).
J.D., welcome! It's nice to see some good ole fashioned kindness these days!!! And not the type of cuts normally received from paper!
I will offer something......don't worry about the wanna-be-moderators.......their tongues (actually keyboards) tend to be sharper than their blades!
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GigOne
"Livin' Life - Full Throttle"
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"I don't suffer from insanity. I enjoy every minute of it."
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He throws a post up, opens himself up as a no BS - straight forward kinda guy!!!!
Never bought a knife from him nor remember seeing his previous posts........so can't comment about his prices or anything else....
Takes a little heat about his spellin' and knife sellin'......... MAN!!! Comes back to you all as a very nice guy!!! Really down to earth!!!
I'm not frettin' about his status (may he be a distributor or dealer).
J.D., welcome! It's nice to see some good ole fashioned kindness these days!!! And not the type of cuts normally received from paper!
I will offer something......don't worry about the wanna-be-moderators.......their tongues (actually keyboards) tend to be sharper than their blades!
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GigOne
"Livin' Life - Full Throttle"
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"I don't suffer from insanity. I enjoy every minute of it."
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Elvislives
Gold Member
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Welcome, and who cares how anyone spells or uses grammar, communication is the ability to get beyond that crap and understand each other. Sounds like good communication was established, and sounds to me like JD is an honest upstanding member of bladeforums. Gotta go, getting all choked up....
Brandon
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"You should never never doubt what nobody is sure about..."
Brandon
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"You should never never doubt what nobody is sure about..."