If you were deploying... (hypothetical)

BladeScout said:
That and you'd have to cut your hair.
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Had to do that to get my crappy job back that paid only 13 cents an hour more than minimum wage...security at the hospital.
That was a crappy job, but the rent wasn't going to pay itself.
I still hate that job, even though it's 11 years in the past.

Went to join the army before taking that horrible job (well, before taking the horrible job prior to that horrible job), but they said no on account of needing to have medications not normally carried by the military (different anaesthetic required, and such).
They were all happy about the shape I was in (my back didn't suck back then), the college diploma in machining, and all the rest, but that was a disqualifier.

Which is fine, as I wouldn't have met my wife at the horrible telemarketing job I had to work at if I'd been off with the army. :)

So I guess it all worked for the best.:thumbup:
 
I guess it comes down to what you are comfortable with if you ever "combat loss" your gear. In an earlier post I suggested a Winkler knives belt knife and a Coldsteel AK47 but maybe a wiser choice for a fixed blade is the Srk in AUS-8A or 3V. That is a tough all purpose knife and if you should lose that it would hurt less pocketbook wise. I sure liked my Winkler hunting knife but I gifted it to my boss as a wedding gift cause he loves to hunt and have ordered the belt knife cause of the smaller profile. I wish you luck in your search.

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stabman said:
In my hypothetical deployment, what I really need is tank driving skills.
That might make up for not being able to walk far and fast enough to keep up with the other troops. :D

Then I can carry whatever fixed blade and folder I want, because tanks can keep rolling no matter how heavy your knife is. ;)
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I met a few of Canada's finest tankers down at the Sullivan Cup at Benning. The Leopard 2 A6 tanks you guys use are pretty nice. I still prefer our Abrams M1A2s though hahahaha. Being a 19k primary and a 11b secondary, I agree that it's nice being able to stow all my crap as opposed to carrying it.
 
If the service wants me to have a fixed blade, they can issue one. I never carried a FB that was not a bayonet or a machete and had little use for any of them. However, this is hypothetical, so give me a Survive GSO or a fixed blade Insingo. Can't remember the proper name CRK has for it.

Give me a good folder any day. I am very fond of the handle ergonomics on Emerson's CQC7 but, I have never owned one. Give me one of those. For a secondary, give me a Vic Alox Soldier/Pioneer or Farmer. The Vic's are budget friendly and easy to replace.

The Emerson could be traded for any Benchmade Grip,Triage, Stryker or HK 14517. For smaller and lighter, I would pick Benchmade's 530 or 531. Not that I have to go with BM, it is just what I am used to.

In real life I would probably end up with a Glock field knife, a Utilitac 2 for my folder and a Vic Pioneer X and Gerber MP600 Scout as backup. The Glock would stay in my pack and never get used. The Gerber would end up being carried and the SAK loaned out, never to be seen again. The Utilitac would get used to cut open my MRE's.

Funny, my real life list looks like a decent budget knife set. Just swap the Glock for a Mora knife.
 
Sabre Cat, think we are reading from the same hymn sheet.

A SAK, whatever you fancy. Repeatable and useful and not expensive.
A Multitool, I like Leatherman but whatever you fancy. Repeatable, if a bit pricy.
Folder, whatever you fancy. All the big names make something pretty good enough. Its luck if one survives a tour from either being lost or borrowed; rare for one to break but some might/do, again luck.
Combat/Utility: I like to say for getting mud out of tank tracks because they get abused when used. For cutting and as a crow bar, but can't be too heavy or will be left at base camp.

Anything more is specialised. Troops spend their money on booze and birds and everything else should be issued. Just the way it is.

These are good (several sizes) and better than the Glock or Mora offerings; not expensive to replace when necessary, tough and easy to keep an edge:
https://www.varusteleka.com/en/product/terava-jaakaripuukko-140-w-leather-sheath/33532?ref=knives

Sexy expensive knives might be nice but a bit of a liability as all kit is team kit and expendable.
 
My last deployment was a CQC 7, ESEE 4, full SE endura, and an old sog powerlock that I have had over a decade. I they decide to deploy this old Guardsmen again probably take a Professional soldier Insingo, full SE endura, same old powerlock, and possibly a Large Sebenza or XM 18 3.5, but thats just me. I have loved my Dawson Pocket model for AT and various field exercises so that might go. When these wharnie Delicas hit the streets it could replace something on the list. I really prefer having a smaller fixed blade because they are easier to use with gloves on.
 
sabre cat said:
Give me a good folder any day. I am very fond of the handle ergonomics on Emerson's CQC7 but, I have never owned one. Give me one of those. For a secondary, give me a Vic Alox Soldier/Pioneer or Farmer. The Vic's are budget friendly and easy to replace.

The Emerson could be traded for any Benchmade Grip,Triage, Stryker or HK 14517. For smaller and lighter, I would pick Benchmade's 530 or 531. Not that I have to go with BM, it is just what I am used to.
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Sabre, if you dig the CQC7 ergos and Benchmade quality, you should dig around for an old Benchmade Specwar 970.

It's awesome.
 
GREENJACKET said:
Sabre Cat, think we are reading from the same hymn sheet.

A SAK, whatever you fancy. Repeatable and useful and not expensive.
A Multitool, I like Leatherman but whatever you fancy. Repeatable, if a bit pricy.
Folder, whatever you fancy. All the big names make something pretty good enough. Its luck if one survives a tour from either being lost or borrowed; rare for one to break but some might/do, again luck.
Combat/Utility: I like to say for getting mud out of tank tracks because they get abused when used. For cutting and as a crow bar, but can't be too heavy or will be left at base camp.

Anything more is specialised. Troops spend their money on booze and birds and everything else should be issued. Just the way it is.

These are good (several sizes) and better than the Glock or Mora offerings; not expensive to replace when necessary, tough and easy to keep an edge:
https://www.varusteleka.com/en/product/terava-jaakaripuukko-140-w-leather-sheath/33532?ref=knives

Sexy expensive knives might be nice but a bit of a liability as all kit is team kit and expendable.
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For a SAK, I try to stick with an Alox model. Any of the Pioneer series or a Cadet. A Farmer X would be nice. Maybe Vic will make one someday.
As for a multi-tool, I like Leatherman also but prefer the ergos of the Gerbers. They are what I am used to and cost less. My Leatherman sits in my gear bag for work. It has better steel.

As for folders, I have found that I like a little longer handle when compared to normal blade length. I carried a CRKT Prowler for years and was very happy with it. Handle is very much like the Emerson CQC 7
 
Gideons said:
If you were deploying in a... let's say a recon unit what folding knife and fixed blade would you bring with you?
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Something that is currently available at the P.X. and not too expensive so it can easily be replaced. A two or three layer SAK, and a Kabar USMC or Becker or some such chopper/digger. Leave the expensive customs in the rear with the gear, If I need to dig a cat hole or need a prybar, I don't want to worry in the least about any damage to my blade, I just want to be able to get another to replace it.
 
smith357 said:
Something that is currently available at the P.X. and not too expensive so it can easily be replaced. A two or three layer SAK, and a Kabar USMC or Becker or some such chopper/digger. Leave the expensive customs in the rear with the gear, If I need to dig a cat hole or need a prybar, I don't want to worry in the least about any damage to my blade, I just want to be able to get another to replace it.
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Yup. I made the mistake of bringing a nice fixed blade on my last deployment. Shit just magically grows legs.

I used my multitool more than anything else downrange, I imagine most people are the same way.
 
sabre cat said:
For a SAK, I try to stick with an Alox model. Any of the Pioneer series or a Cadet. A Farmer X would be nice. Maybe Vic will make one someday.
As for a multi-tool, I like Leatherman also but prefer the ergos of the Gerbers. They are what I am used to and cost less. My Leatherman sits in my gear bag for work. It has better steel.

As for folders, I have found that I like a little longer handle when compared to normal blade length. I carried a CRKT Prowler for years and was very happy with it. Handle is very much like the Emerson CQC 7
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I've had a SAK Huntsman size I was ten years old. Have one in my washbag still today.
Last time I played with US Marines, a long time ago, they had Gerber multitools. Either issued or PX; I prefer Leathermans.

I carried a CRK Project, but I was the exception; rarely ever got used. Some carried the MOD Survival knife but they aren't a good choice because of their weight... nothing that an entrenching tool can't do.

All that is really required is something to cut open MRE's and paracord. A good folder does that.
 
GREENJACKET said:
I've had a SAK Huntsman size I was ten years old. Have one in my washbag still today.
Last time I played with US Marines, a long time ago, they had Gerber multitools. Either issued or PX; I prefer Leathermans.

I carried a CRK Project, but I was the exception; rarely ever got used. Some carried the MOD Survival knife but they aren't a good choice because of their weight... nothing that an entrenching tool can't do.

All that is really required is something to cut open MRE's and paracord. A good folder does that.
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In your washbag? That's funny because I have been known to carry a Vic Mechanic in mine. Recently swapped it out with a different model with a corkscrew. That way I can carry a screwdriver for my eyeglasses.

I own one MT from Leatherman. The 2nd generation Wave model. I have found it to be a fantastic product and use the file often while I am at the office. However, when I am in the field, cold wet and tired, I reach for a Gerber MP 600 that I built from used, broken spares. True, the steel is not up to the standard of Leatherman, the file sucks big time and the bead blasted finish is lacking but, for my needs, it's a better tool, overall.
 
Washbag good place; personal admin. Used to use a lot of tape for blisters and webbing rub, so needed an admin knife and scissors. Pesky thorns in your knees; we didn't have knee pads in those days. SAKs worth their place in a good Washbag toolbox. There are always tins and wine bottles to be opened. Once upon a time rations came in tins!

I'm showing my age now but I had one of the first multitools: The SOG Paratool. Soon after everyone did them. I liked the Leatherman Wave before they made it bigger and heavier; now its the Charge TTi which is getting a bit of a lump.
For cutting cheese then the Spyderco Military would be my first choice, but in truth most good folders are fine.

The modern army is a big machine and supplies nearly everything; its a team effort. If you can't cut it with a penknife then smash it with an entrenching too. More than that use some det cord:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aleeJ9Rg4Hw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W086BtJqCL8
 
I would still choose a multitool-leatherman surge.
Fixed would be a ESEE 4 or Winkler Hunting knife.
 
Assuming a multi-tool is already on me...

Fixed:Ka-Bar 5011, big enough without weighing a ton.
Folder:Cold Steel Recon 1, solid folder, and again, doesn't weigh a lot.
 
When I deployed for Desert Shield/Storm I was a Corporal in the USMC. I had a Spyderco Endura Clipit in my pocket, and a Gerber BMF on my web gear.
Someone above mentioned getting knives from the PX. As a low ranking enlisted man with short funds I would hit the PX, and score a KaBar, and some sort of US made one handed opening pocket knife.
 
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