I'm so sick of the double standard!!!

[chickenplucker]

"Everything is worth what its purchaser will pay for it." - Syrus... a long time ago.

No one forces anyone to buy anything... The market sets the price.

Dealers sometimes charge more, but odds are they have what you want when you want to buy it. Many people are willing to pay more to get exactly what they desire. I see nothing wrong with this. It is a simple law of supply and demand. And no matter how much anyone biatches about it here... it will not change.

Publilius (less correctly Publius) Syrus, a Latin writer of maxims, flourished in the 1st century BC. He was an Assyrian who was brought as a slave to Italy, but by his wit and talent he won the favor of his master, who freed and educated him.




This thread is driving me to drinking... :thumbup: so I tolerate it.

He must have been an ancestor of mine. My saying goes "The more you pay the more its worth". But I dont claim to be an Assyrian I just act like one.:thumbup:

 

[HandofCod]

Is it silly?

I wonder why these threads keep popping up then?

I share this point of view. Any brand where people can make a living simply by scoping up all the stock and controlling the resale value knowing members will pay the inflated price isn't doing itself any favours. But hey, it takes all sorts and all that, it's just not for me.

Sale horror stories ought to belong in GB&U, that's why it's there. It would probably help if dealers were only allowed to sell in their own domain rather than in Individual with all the regular joes.

 

[adrock1978]

...my point was further to point out that there is more than one double standard here in the Busse area. Yet I see stones thrown only in one direction.

Yes... but only ONE that goes directly against the rules and structure of the forum in which I pay money to be a part of. So down the road when yet another standard is bent on favor of one particular faction, I guess we'll have to swallow that too. In the mean time, when ever I sell a knife in the Busse section I'm going to list the names of 82 other Busse models that I wont take in trade. Every for sale thread of mine will include every possible Busse model I can think of just in the event someone wants to offer it to me. Key word search be damned.

 

[Soulrack223]

Knife Hunter is a great guy to deal with, plus he's never contacted me after I've posted that I like a knife saying; 1) He knows who has it. 2) He'll contact the owner for me but it won't be cheap. 3) Let him know if I'm interested, but then follow-up 3 times in one day. My resoponse, "I only said I like the knife, dude."

KH has also never badgered the hell out of me about one of MY for sale threads. Saying that he's a noob and needs a great deal to get to try a Busse. Only to get me to sell at cost, losing shipping expense I might add, to relist it (along with at least 20-40 other newly acquired Busses) for a 40% profit over what I sold it to him for!



These practices have no place in the Busse community on bladeforums. And for these reasons, one dealer has none of my respect nor will he ever get any of my business. :thumbdn:

O wow, everyone is still here talking about me. That's good. Sorry but I've been busy the last two days. I seem to have a serge in business. All the views on this thread and talking about me is really having other check out my threads and buy my knives. So I guess nobody actually cares or respects the people that are saying bad things about me. They are checking out my feedback score and I guess that stands for itself.
So I just wanted to stop by and thank everyone for their support! I wish everyone a great weekend!

O, and if you check, I didn't put a link in the normal Busse forums to for my "for sale threads." The person that did that is a wonderful customer that got his from Busse from me. I wish he would post some pictures, it's really beautiful!
But I have a signature but then again, so does half the people here =)

Dan,
I don't respect you at this point because you were dishonest with me in our one transaction. You coerced me to lower my sale price under false pretense. I also don't appreciate the two times you contacted me about being the middle man for two show knives that I posted my fondness of. Granted, I was already prejudiced against you but your aggressive practices really turned me off further. This is not meant to be personal so please don't take it that way. My only intention is to possibly influence future business practices.

I don't like the thought that someones first exposure to Busses could be exposure to a profiteering reseller, not because he might bite on a ridiculously high price but because of the vibe it gives off. Had it been my first experience it would have surely turned me off. Several bladeforumites that don't frequent the Busse subforum have posted in this thread that this--all of this--is what turns them off about Busses. I personally don't have a problem with anything except what I've detailed above and I'm glad they're turned off because that's all the more for me.

Let's Drink!

 

[Soulrack223]

Yes... but only ONE that goes directly against the rules and structure of the forum in which I pay money to be a part of. So down the road when yet another standard is bent on favor of one particular faction, I guess we'll have to swallow that too. In the mean time, when ever I sell a knife in the Busse section I'm going to list the names of 82 other Busse models that I wont take in trade. Every for sale thread of mine will include every possible Busse model I can think of just in the event someone wants to offer it to me. Key word search be damned.

If you were to do an advanced search and only search thread titles you might weed out some of the hyperbole. I always try to put the knife names in the thread title.

 

[l2lku2]

sorry

 

[Liu Kang]

Dan,
I don't respect you at this point because you were dishonest with me in our one transaction. You coerced me to lower my sale price under false pretense. I also don't appreciate the two times you contacted me about being the middle man for two show knives that I posted my fondness of. Granted, I was already prejudiced against you but your aggressive practices really turned me off further. This is not meant to be personal so please don't take it that way. My only intention is to possibly influence future business practices.

I don't like the thought that someones first exposure to Busses could be exposure to a profiteering reseller, not because he might bite on a ridiculously high price but because of the vibe it gives off. Had it been my first experience it would have surely turned me off. Several bladeforumites that don't frequent the Busse subforum have posted in this thread that this--all of this--is what turns them off about Busses. I personally don't have a problem with anything except what I've detailed above and I'm glad they're turned off because that's all the more for me.

Let's Drink!

WOW, I didn't remember doing a transaction with you and after much searching, I found it. That was back in 3/09. I just joined and didn't even know much about Busse. I'll sell you back the HOGFSH to you for what you sold it to me for, we can undo the transaction.
And at that time I was new, that was my fifth Busse ever!

 

[kurodrago]

In the end, it is all about perspective, which is subjective.

I agree, but it is also about privilege and arrogance. & I experience both only on PM like everybody else. As the coin has two sides, one is made to be seen by everybody "which in most cases, it false".

 

[Soulrack223]

WOW, I didn't remember doing a transaction with you and after much searching, I found it. That was back in 3/09. I just joined and didn't even know much about Busse. I'll sell you back the HOGFSH to you for what you sold it to me for, we can undo the transaction.
And at that time I was new, that was my fifth Busse ever!

You reposted it for a 40% profit which I took badly. I don't want it back either. Maybe someday we can be friends?

 

[Liu Kang]

You reposted it for a 40% profit which I took badly. I don't want it back either. Maybe someday we can be friends?

No, that one I didn't sell, that went out in a trade. I might have sold another one though.

I agree, but it is also about privilege and arrogance. & I experience both only on PM like everybody else. As the coin has two sides, one is made to be seen by everybody "which in most cases, it false".

Because you made me an offer well below what I was asking and I said no thanks. I can't just include free shipping to Japan, that takes good time and cost good money for it insured. Yes, I do have all my emails. And most people know I'm pretty firm on my prices.

 

[chickenplucker]

How to Win Friends and Infuence People. Dale Carnegie :thumbup:

Table of Contents
Fundamental Techniques in Handling People
Six Ways to Make People Like You
How to Win People to Your Way of Thinking
Be a Leader: How to Change People Without Giving Offense or Arousing Resentment

Read it, Learn it, Live it.

 

[Last Visible Canary]

Yes... but only ONE that goes directly against the rules and structure of the forum in which I pay money to be a part of. So down the road when yet another standard is bent on favor of one particular faction, I guess we'll have to swallow that too. In the mean time, when ever I sell a knife in the Busse section I'm going to list the names of 82 other Busse models that I wont take in trade. Every for sale thread of mine will include every possible Busse model I can think of just in the event someone wants to offer it to me. Key word search be damned.

The sales tactic is called "Keyword spamming", and I'm kind of surprised there isn't a specific rule against it in the rules section... I think a dealer could currently get away with it with the idea that it's not just random keywords, initially they are supposed to go to other sale pages. It also kind of falls into the dealers being exempt from the multiple sales threads on page one.

 

[Toxie]

Put me in the "I'll pass" camp. At least - I'll pass on buying from Liu Kang. I dislike his attitude, and the drive to sell a knife over being a good resident.

Now that leather guy- he seems like he cares more about the community then the sales.

 

[petah]

I remember Jerry posting that dealers are allowed to sell in the Individual section... Even thought it is against BF rules Busse Sub. has different rules. W/E I guess it's back to cold calling to get my knives.

 

[Hombre Secreto]

Hey kiessling, if you can figure out a way to send me $200 worth of hefeweizen, I'll send you a Busse!

 

[leatherman]

Now that leather guy- he seems like he cares more about the community then the sales.

If you mean me, thank you very much, I really appreciate it. And yes, I do. Ten years worth, heart and soul.

 

[kurodrago]

Because you made me an offer well below what I was asking and I said no thanks. I can't just include free shipping to Japan, that takes good time and cost good money for it insured. Yes, I do have all my emails. And most people know I'm pretty firm on my prices.

I have no beef with you.
But frankly speaking, you have to lose the B.. attitude, behavior, especially on PM...like (I have, you don't)! Yes you can refuse or reject a deal but, there are many ways to do that for you own benefit not mine!
The only guy who can have that attiude is the boss, but he isn't!

P/S
I over paid on every single of my busse's including shipping cost & insurance...'m verry happy with it.

 

[mat_890]

Either we operate in a free market or we adopt a communist approach and control who does what and how.

That would be true... except you have failed to accurately represent the 'bladeforums market economy'. A 'free market' has no government intervention other then enforcing property law. Bladeforms in this situation is acting as a government and has given an unfair advantage to one specific party. This is no longer a free market and while this all may sound like a bunch semantics, is incredibly important to economic theories you (and MANY others) so readily quote.

 

[oge14]

No, that one I didn't sell, that went out in a trade. I might have sold another one though.



Because you made me an offer well below what I was asking and I said no thanks. I can't just include free shipping to Japan, that takes good time and cost good money for it insured. Yes, I do have all my emails. And most people know I'm pretty firm on my prices.

lvc what are your thought's on this one?

 

[oge14]

I share this point of view. Any brand where people can make a living simply by scoping up all the stock and controlling the resale value knowing members will pay the inflated price isn't doing itself any favours. But hey, it takes all sorts and all that, it's just not for me.

Sale horror stories ought to belong in GB&U, that's why it's there. It would probably help if dealers were only allowed to sell in their own domain rather than in Individual with all the regular joes.

please don't judge all by one asses action's. yes foster's is bad beer but i still give much sugar to all my aussie mate's. if one thing is wrong with the whole scheme of thing's. then it's a good thing, something has to give. now if that "thing" multiples then there should be concern.