I have a solution. Let's start lowballing all the dealers. Tell them their knife is only worth x and if they don't sell to you for that price, you hope they choke on all the knifes they hoarding. They in turn will get their feelings hurt and ask for a dealers only sub forum and they can trade among themselves. Wow, this thread is getting out there.
something not many people take into account, if no one ever buy's a single blade from a dealer: they've purchased every single one of those blades from someone else or directly from busse. Everyone got their money. Busse sold more knives, those people who wanted to sell their knives for x amount got x amount.
Newbie or old hat. If you are reckless with your money and don't do you own research and make an emotional purchase then you take your chances for overpaying. A fool and his money can be parted. Whether it's over paying for a knife or a car. We don't have to condone practices of certain individuals, but what happened to being responsible for ones own actions?
seconded. after looking objectively at the purchases I've made at over-inflated prices (a 600$ SHBA that I sold for 300$) I came to the conclusion that it wasn't the sellers fault in any way. I asked for the knife at the price he listed and took the responsibility squarely on myself. The transaction itself was great, if someone asked me "is this a good guy to deal with?" I'd say, "Yes. He shipped the knife quickly with good packaging and had good communication." - because thats what makes a good seller. Not the price. Not my emotional connection to the price or my current economic status.
If this was in regards to something like food or water I would have a different opinion as they are necessary resources for life and thus profit at the cost of raising the overall price of goods becomes a health issue for a large group of people.
Don't you get though, or see though that it's the double standard and shady practices that prevent this? A guy comes on asking for a general price and he immediately gets an email from a dealer with tons of knives. "Wow! This guy has lots of knives that I can't seem to find anywhere because I just stumbled upon Busse and their unique sales approach..." So then, someone suggests he searches the exchange and he gets two pages of (the same) dealer's threads. THEN!! In going back even further, he finds other individuals threads with the prices removed (which is a separate issue entirely). So... where is this competent research supposed to occur amidst all the BS one encounters when Busse knife shopping?
Maybe Liu Kang should move on to selling really nice pens... there... I said it.
anyone who ever cold calls you about
anything should
always be held to a higher standard of scrutiny and suspicion. Product rarity or the false image of rarity is present in nearly all collectible markets, it's a sales tactic that you can't get away from. If you wish to participate in any market for collectible goods, these are things you will have to learn. Because they are not taught to kids in school/the home, you have to learn them on your own through long standing observation and analysis. ("You" is meant to indicate the general new-to-busse crowd, not you adrock1978 specifically)
Competent analysis can be acheived as it's always been acheived, the dealers only make up a certain percentage of the market - the non-dealer sellers are still there just as they were before dealer influence and presence. In order to search though the internet, it's necessary to have good pan/scan skills and selective attention to filtering. If you disregard all of the dealer threads, you can get just as much information as you could before they were around, it just takes a little longer and a slightly modified search parameter.
As an outsider looking in, I can honestly say that all of the hoarding and profiteering that surrounds this brand is a giant turn off.
I currently own zero Busse's. It will most likely stay that way until things change.
Is it silly?
I wonder why these threads keep popping up then?
It's worth looking at them as a stand alone product free of any and all social connections by buying them directly from busse when they are offered. They keep popping up because people attach an emotional connection to purchases that colors their perception of the transaction. Even though the seller did everything a good seller is supposed to do (good communication, accurately described the knife, accurately described all expected charges pre-sale, shipped quickly and shipped with sufficient protection of product) they may feel as though they've been taken advantage of because someone else was selling the same knife for 50% of the price and they didn't see it. That is not the sellers fault, it is the buyers - but the emotional reaction still stands and the person will want to express it.